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Xbox One: stand it vertically “at your own risk”, warns Microsoft

Xbox One should be played horizontally, Microsoft’s senior director of product management and planning Albert Penello has warned.

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theWB273871d ago

As some stated on VG...why would the drive be a problem if there's a mandatory install even on disc based games? Either way I'm too nervous to stand my consoles vertical.

Always be paranoid that something, anything will knock it over.

TomShoe3871d ago

It'll probably be like the disk killer X360 super slim.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

theWB273871d ago

That's been known since the console released though. I don't know why they never fixed...or why people would move the console why playing.

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Thehyph3871d ago

This is another example of lacking PR.

The correct thing would be to say: "Do not stand your Xbox One vertically." If they don't want you to do it, just say so. Be direct.

Using "at your own risk" is just terrible.

LackTrue4K3871d ago

"Go home XboxOne, you're drunk..."

PoSTedUP3871d ago

@onursistersback: yeah, that thing cant even stand up straight.

user55757083871d ago

@stevehyphen

I think the real problem lies in the fact that outside of gaming websites most will not be aware of this.

theBAWSE3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

wait can't the super duper 300,000 virtual servers computing cloud power cool it? s/

Ms need to flat out say don't put it on its side!! , NOT the terrible PR saying 'at own risk' or I see rrod mark 2 in the future

badz1493870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

LOL is the only thing I can do thinking about this!

the big breathing space inside the box is so empty, they are afraid parts are going to collapse if you put the console on its side!

this is pure rocket science stuff! /s

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MazzingerZ3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

SONY included Disc-lock even on PS2 and MSFT is still cheap regarding that? X360 didn't have disc-lock either that's why you shouldn't move it while reading discs, probably same thing applies to the X1 and what they mean with that statement
Why is the console so expensive? Powerbrick, controllers uses batteries, no disc-lock...

nerdeu3871d ago

Buy a Xbox One "at your own risk", warns nerdeu.

The console looks far from finished and MS are confirming it themselves. If the concept is meant to be confusing then MS has nailed it ... but I'm pretty sure that wasn't their intention.

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The Meerkat3871d ago

Heat rises.
It might cause some components to over heat.

Or it might restrict the amount of air the fans can draw in. Covering one of the side air vents cannot be good.

GodGinrai3871d ago

@meerkat. makes sense. the vents are situated on the top of the console for heat to rise, as well as on the sides.Considering that they intend for it to be on for long periods, thats a sensible thing to do. They never designed it to stand sideways, so I dont know why they just dont say "it is intended to be placed horizontally" sounds less dramatic than "at your own risk".

Killjoy30003871d ago

@WB

You're the definition of damage control.

theWB273870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

Because I don't look at things like this like it's the end of the world? Oh well...I never stood my PS360 on its side. Who the F cares.

I'll leave the over reaction and omg teh powuh bwick, controlluh bateriezz, what is M$ doingz- I'll leave that to people who want to do that.

I just don't care. I play games....not worry about arbitrary things like not being able to stand it on its side, or find a little extra room for a power brick.

-Superman-3871d ago

Microsoft + Hardware = FAIL
Sony + Hardware = PRO

Microsoft never know how to make good hardware

Magicite3870d ago

they also often fail at software

Goku7813871d ago

From the people who brought us the Red Ring of Death.....what will they not think of next?

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THC CELL3871d ago

I don't no anyone that stands a ps3 or Xbox on its side.

stubbed_out3871d ago

I stand them side by side.

Have had the PS3 since 2008 (MGS edition) and the 360 since 2010...both still working fine. (fingers crossed!)

mcstorm3871d ago

I do but that is because my TV stand had 3 shelves. Top one has 5 HDD's and Surround sound speaker. 2nd Shelf has my Sky box on and 3rd one has my Amp for my Surround sound system. The I have the PS3, 360 and WiiU stood up next to each other one one side of the stand and my home server plus another 2 HDD's on the other side.

Its not a major issue for me as I am going to put my surround sound speaker on top of the stand where the tv is, then move the HDD's to the side part as I am putting the 360 in a back room and then put my One on the top stand but I see why people want to stand it up.

Thehyph3871d ago

I bet one day when you move, you will find cats and small children in the cable jungle behind that unit.

I have nightmares about setups like that. haha :)

Sounds like you should have a bucket full of remotes and game controllers next to the couch. It's probably just easier that way.

mcstorm3871d ago

Lol I moved 3 years ago and was a nightmare sorting it all out and I did have everything tidy behind the tv but some how it has managed to mess its self up.

I do have way to many controllers but I got a stand to put them on. I do have to many remotes though but as I have a sony system everyone is able to control the sound system and tv.

I do have a big box in the cornor of the room that has a Amiga32, Gamecube, Dreamcast, SNES and N64 in too and when we decide to pull them out my front room is just a mess of cables other half hates it lol.

Thehyph3871d ago

The other half always hates cables.

Modern mobile devices make it worse, too. The night stand next to the bed has become worse than the entertainment center.
Vita charger, iPhone charger, two or three micro usb chargers for phone, tablet, e-reader, etc.

mcstorm3871d ago

I know what you mean I now have a Lumia 925 so have a wireless charger on there now too taking up space.

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SegaGamer3870d ago

I used to stand my 360 on it's side but the drive gets stuck when i try to open it these days.

rainslacker3870d ago

I know a guy that has a cool setup with his PS3 mounted to the wall next to the TV, which is flush with the wall. All his components are either hidden or mounted in such a way. It's all pretty sleek...wish I had a picture to share.

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stubbed_out3871d ago

Submerge it in a fish tank "at your own risk"

memots3871d ago

Insert VCR cassette at your own risk

GiggMan3870d ago

LOL. You mean VHS?

*Damn I'm old*

memots3870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

Vhs , Betamax , VCR is more the term for these machines lol ..

On topic who would put the original Xbox sideways ? The design or the X1 is pretty much the same.

Put it facedown why don't you ...

stubbed_out3869d ago

"Put it facedown why don't you ..."

I generally like to put them with the disk tray facing down, then I eject the games using the controller and watch the console do push-ups.

MasterCornholio3871d ago

Why would it be risky to set it vertically? Unless the console wasn't designed for a vertical set up I really don't see the issue with that.

Nexus 7 2013

MasterCornholio3871d ago

I have my PS3 in a vertical position and I never had an issue with it especially with a stand that stabilizes the system.

Nexus 7 2013

pyramidshead3871d ago

Don't think you can stack it either. It's like 95% vent.

talocaca3871d ago

Microsoft should learn from Paula Seen and shut up for a while...

nerdeu3871d ago

I was just about to mention that. WHY are they making negative PR for their own product? Either make the console able to stand vertically or shut up about it, MS. It's not like they hadn't the money or time to make put effort in such an easy task while designing the console.

I think they were SERIOUSLY caught by Sony in February and just rushed out an incomplete design. If you don't believe me then read this article. The Xbox One as a concept is really confusing and far from finished during launch. It's not looking good at all:

http://www.ign.com/articles...

SignifiedSix913871d ago

So now its bad for a company to warn its customers about something its product is not designed to do?

Man you guys really never give up, do you?

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7212h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

purple1011h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac29m ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad14m ago(Edited 13m ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 8h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 6h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 3h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN20h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo22h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies18h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 6h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic16h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9015h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 8h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 7h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 4h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 7h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 6h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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