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Recap: How Microsoft Redeemed the Xbox One // LevelSave

It’s been quite a few months since Microsoft unveiled the Xbox One to the world, and since that time, quite a lot has changed. This has left gamers more confused then informed. Let’s take a quick look back at the past couple months and see exactly what happened to the Xbox One and what Microsoft has done to fix it.

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Bundi3886d ago

through sheer gaming awesomeness and the power of the cloud.

Maddens Raiders3886d ago

Yeah but the continued rationalisation of a forced camera and additional $100 price tag for a piece of kit with less power, demonstrates that neither Microsoft nor the author knows the meaning of the words "fixed" or "redeemed". Micro is determined to have their way and recoup their Kinect investment, the gamers be damned in the process. Major Nelson stated that forum posters weren't engineers, and that MS couldn't just "flip a switch" to circumvent drm checks, and an always on, required Kinect. All lies and ridiculous confusion.

I'll say it again, the system was not very well planned to be received by the gaming faithful and Sony prematurely forced their hand in Feb of this year. That's why we've seen an avalanche of policy reversals, backflips, and apologies because these contingent issues were never accounted for in the first place. It's as simple as that..

JokesOnYou3885d ago (Edited 3885d ago )

No Maddens X1 will do just fine, heres why:

"Yeah but the continued rationalisation of a forced camera and additional $100 price tag"

-The camera is welcomed by all who are interested in gaming beyond just a graphic upgrade. Kinect v2 retails for $400 so in fact included in X1 package we are getting a helluva bargain.

"Microsoft nor the author knows the meaning of the words "fixed" or "redeemed"."

All of thr DRM policies have been reversed= fixed. Normal gamers without an axe to grind who really wanted an X1 but were not in favor of those changes are satisfied and will buy an X1=redeemed. It seems its you who does not understand the meaning of fixed/redeemed.

"Major Nelson stated that forum posters weren't engineers, and that MS couldn't just "flip a switch" to circumvent drm checks"

-Thats just simply saying it is a big decision thats OVER HIS HEAD he is just a PR guy but common sense dictates it would require a lot of re-thinking, re-coding and careful implementation of current policy and code at the hardware level, the reversal came weeks later and micro/X1 engineers are likely still finalizing the NEW FIRMWARE CODE for the DAY ONE PATCH/UPDATE its not magic its hardwork and late nights for engineers/coders= So in conclusion it is a FACT that its not just flipping a switch but when you are pre-programmed to think micro is evil everything is a conspiracy and lies to you.

"I'll say it again, the system was not very well planned to be received by the gaming faithful and Sony prematurely forced their hand in Feb of this year."

-A console that launches 1 week after ps4 in the US, 1 week before in most of the big Euro markets, has the better quality and quantity of next gen exclusive games, has actively made small upgrades to specs which is unheard of when you are have production issues and is a console that aims to do more with kinect, tv integration, media and will bring full use of dedicated servers also incorporating the cloud so far in ways no other console has, all this DAY ONE, while a company far less ambitious with its Gaikai service wont even be available at launch, hell I still remember when FCC suddenly became the measuring stick for a console being ready, then we find out X2 passed before ps4, now the guys like you are still grasping a new straws to make it look as if the X1 is rushed meanwhile dony wont even confirm the share buttons youtube uplaod, come to think of it micro has shown and talked about X1's specs and functionality in alot mote detail than sony= if that is not ready compared to their competition then I dont know what is?

ZBlacktt3885d ago

JokesOnYou, such a fitting name, lol. Wow, hook line and sinker they've sold you on a bag of goods. Best of luck with that.

JokesOnYou3885d ago (Edited 3885d ago )

Edit, little mistake I meant "X1" in the last paragraph above.

ZBlacktt, how original, never heard that before but I guess its much harder to debate logically. lol, when in doubt just fall back on "Xbot", "you work for micro", or wait, wait "haha the Jokes On You!" yeah you got me.

AngelicIceDiamond3885d ago (Edited 3885d ago )

@Maddens Hmm that's nice meanwhile.

http://www.videogamer.com/x...

Good news for the X1. So you were saying?

I guess you weren't saying much of anything.

EDIT: @Monday Ok? Your giving predictions and I'm giving you facts so who wins? You can talk down about X1 all you want people are still pre-ordering the console so have fun with your night sweats and stressing over the X1.

Don't worry so much about the X1 focus on PS4. I know this'll be Sony's best console yet.

NewMonday3885d ago (Edited 3885d ago )

@JokesOnYou

logic says the market rejects the XB1

the only thing going for it is brand loyalty, tainted glasses can make what you want look beautiful and powerful, so you can convince yourself but the majority of gamers don't like what the XB1 has to offer so far.

@AngelicIceDiamond
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creatchee3885d ago

@newmonday

If your graph holds true, then if PS4 sells 100,000,000 consoles, then the Xbox One will sell about 55,000,000.

That's more than enough to ensure a good online community and continued developer support.

Unless all you care about is sales.

NewMonday3885d ago

@creatchee

good enough for me
a larger market share will give a better foundation for 1st party games to succeed, this will make Sony take more risks.

and the pressure of a small market share will push MS to invest in true exclusive games to win the gamers back, they could get back to the good old days of the TrueXB1 and early 360 years. they should stay under pressure because they will just shift back to timed DLC if you give them the chance.

Deltaohio3885d ago

@jokesonyou
Just FYI the kinect is not $400. Idk why ppl still believe this.
Don't get me wrong I like the X1 over the PS4 hands down. I just don't like how ppl believe crazy things.
The kinect cost "maybe" $200 at best. The $400 tag ppl throw out is actually for a dev kit where the dev gets 2 kinect and a shit ton of support from MS.
Get ur facts straight home skillet.

Google windows for Kinect new dev kit

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ArchangelMike3885d ago

The proof that Microsoft have yet to redeem themselves is borne out in pre-order numbers.

The pre-order numbers suggest overwhelmingly that gamers this gen have (initially at least) sided with Sony and the PS4.

Policy reversals, Fifa 14 bundles, Forza bundles, Titanfall etc etc have not done enough to reverse the low pre-order numbers.

JokesOnYou3885d ago (Edited 3885d ago )

Yeah because a console gen that will last the next 10+ yrs is going to be determined by sold out preorders that are a DIRECT REFLECTION of how many each manufacturer CAN PRODUCE prior to launch that will ALL sellout to a few million hardcore gamers over the course of 1-2 months, thats cool but the other 120+ months what will happen?...oh my bad nevermind preorders is whats most important.

Bundi3885d ago

They have doubled their pre-orders compared to the Xbox 360...sounds pretty redeemed to me.

devwan3885d ago

@Bundi But the xbox one isn't competing with the 360, it's competing with the ps4, so that's irrelevant and clearly one of those kinds of "facts" that gets pulled out when meaningful numbers don't tell the story they wish to portray.

@JokesOnYou 10 years? No chance. If anything the next generation will be shorter than the last and Microsoft aren't going to want to drag on into the 2020s with hardware that already struggles to live with 2012 PC hardware.

ArchangelMike3885d ago

@Jokesonyou

Pre-order numbers are a direct indication of demand. At present there is much more demand for the PS4 than XbOne.

The thing is that increased demand breeds more demend (the Wii is a prime example of this). The higher demand for a PS4 will feedback into the consumer minset, which will have the effect of feeding demand over the coming years.

ZBlacktt3885d ago

Joke, this is becoming a joke. You are aware MS has never out sold Sony at any time right? Even with a full year head start and a worldwide launch in 2005. Now fast forward to Next Gen pre orders and Sony has the most ever in company history. Their message has been clear from the start " All about the gamers and developers ".

PS1 - Second best selling console of all time

PS2 - Best selling console of all time

PS3 - Outsold XBox 360 full year later launch date. No worldwide launch. All of Europe waited until 2007 to get it.

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Retroman3885d ago

"a lot has changed. this has left gamers confused"

REALLY!!! like what gamers??? unexpected casual non hardcore gamers you mean?? only thing MS redeemed is more lies, more advertisement to promote "this is the BEST console since invention of bread" to casual gamer.

jessupj3885d ago

They would have completely and utterly ruined my beloved hobby. I will never forgive MS.

starchild3885d ago

Oh jeez, more ridiculous melodrama from a fanboy.

MS, Sony, Nintendo, AMD, Nvidia and other companies all offer gaming hardware, and you can either choose to buy it or not. No one is holding a gun to your head.

If Microsoft would have come out with the Xbox One with the original features it wouldn't have ruined anything. The people that wanted to move into a digital future on a console similar to what we have on PC would have bought the console and been happy. Those that didn't like it would have bought something else.

What I have to ask is, why do most of the people that "will never forgive Microsoft" just happen to be Playstation fans? You guys already had a thing for Sony and didn't like the Xbox anyway. Most of the people I see making comments like yours are people that I saw making anti-Xbox 360 comments last generation long before the announcement of the Xbox One.

SITH3885d ago

Exactly. They act like they are angry former and loyal Xbox gamers who have suddenly lost all respect for Microsoft and can't understand why you have not. It kills me they have no clue we can see every word they ever say in their comment history.

SITH3885d ago

Lmao, N4g is full of you pretend butt hurt people. You do realize we can all see you comment history!? You never supported Xbox one, and that is clear by your obvious disdain of the Xbox 36o and Microsoft. You never had respect for MS to have anything ruined by them.

Your very first comment on your account.

"360 a better concole?
M$ definitely couldn't sell it's console if they didn't do all the dirty tricks they did. Not saying sony doesn't do the same thing, but in my opinion M$ does it a lot worse and it's just getting personal now.

and by the way, none of the sony customers ever said "who needs duel shock (rumble)". As i recall, they were all screaming bloody murder, demanding it back and sony actually listened to it's customer base.

The 360 is in no way a better console. I... #37.1

2176d ago by jessupj | View comment"

You always been in butt hurt mode. In context of this article, Xbox one would have never done a thing to change that for you.

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yellowgerbil3885d ago

Microsoft redeemed the X1?
that's news to me.

Bzone243885d ago

It's because you get all your gaming news on N4G. Positive Xbox One articles have a hard time getting approved.

yellowgerbil3885d ago

Nope that's not it. I read all the "pos" articles, I am just not so easily swayed, MS will have to go above and beyond to earn back my business after the RROD and all the crap with the new system. Got rid of my 360 in 08 they've not done anything to make me regret that decision

ZBlacktt3885d ago

Again, thanks to Sony for forcing their hand. Otherwise you would still be screwed. That is a absolute fact. Thanks to Sony for bringing the Blu-ray player to video gaming and also wining the format war. Now the X1 won't be held back there either. It really looks like MS has a extremely hard time coming out with new consoles without huge major issues. Years of RROD to all this. Then comes the sorry about that we are going to flip flop on that. If the devil was selling candy that was poisoned and you found out it was poisoned. Called him on it and he said ok I took the poison out. Would you still buy it? That's what all this is really.

Great for the gamers who just love this brand no matter what. But never turn a blind eye to what you really are dealing with here. It's your money after all.

Sitdown3885d ago

My gosh......Sony didn't force their hand; before Sony's announcement at E3 there was already rumblings and complaining, and gamers refusing to turn down basic rules and principles that they have enjoyed since the start of gaming. Did Sony when the dvd war? But somehow dvd made their way into consoles....so guess what, if hd dvd would have one, then most likely it would have been in consoles. What was the huge major issue with the original xbox? Pretty sure purchasing a $500 console is not the same as eating candy that can kill you from an entity bent on destroying you. But since you are using that example.....what us your analogy for Sony and rootkit? What about Sony removing an advertised feature of other OS from a console you already owned? Both of these companies are far from innocent, and I willingly purchase both knowing this.

stuna13885d ago

@Sitdown

In a lot of ways Sony did force Microsofts hand, here's why; if Sony had said nothing one way or another concerning the planned policies they intended to implement, best believe Microsoft wouldn't have been so quick to start reversing their intended vision for the Xbox1, regardless of how low the pre-order were for the Xbox1, because regardless of what anyone including Microsoft could say, everyone was under the assumption that Sony was also going down the same route! The PS4's pre-order wouldn't be anywhere near the level they are now, because the jury would have still been out concerning Sonys plans on policies, thereby not posing a major threat to Microsoft.

At this very moment the Xbox1 would have had the industry in a catch 22 situation! Because they would have been able to dictate the direction of the entire industry. People with too much power, that they use to control and instill fear are called Dictators! The restriction, policies, and demands that Microsoft tried to impose on gamers, developers, the industry as a whole, were nothing short of a "DICTATORSHIP" of gaming.

Here we have those still spouting on about how they wish Microsoft had been clearer on their presentation of their message.....Well here it is! Notice how the popularity of Xbox brand has also ushered in some of the extremist measures and restrictions known to gaming to date!? If Microsoft could monetize every aspect of gaming they would! The always online feature was a means to that end!

What happened to gaming being fun? I'll tell you what happened to it! Microsoft happened to it, now it's becoming more like a costly chore to have fun.

puntthor3885d ago

microsoft is evil! it is the antichrist! sony is pope! I am the fanboy of the sony!

opinska3884d ago

let sony suck your money! funboy

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest4d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN4d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan4d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor3d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic3d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv723d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares4d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv724d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka4d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion4d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer4d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow14d ago (Edited 4d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer4d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar4d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn4d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18814d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast4d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning774d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole3d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning774d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning774d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast4d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning774d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast3d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv724d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes4d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv729d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle8d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18818d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio8d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning778d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga8d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv728d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19928d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21838d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga8d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan8d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit8d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus238d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv728d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier8d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan7d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1019d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos9d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-8d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac9d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1018d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead8d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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