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GamesCom 2013: Did Microsoft Just Win The Conference Showdown?

VideoGamer: "There was a lot of talking, but not a lot was actually said. Sony and Microsoft's press conferences were perfunctionary more than explosive - the latter being kept only for those in attendance - even with the announcements of PS4's release date and Microsoft's commitment to making sure that FIFA is played by every human being, ever..."

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NYC_Gamer3919d ago

Won what?I believe both events weren't ground breaking and could have benefited from huge exclusive software being revealed.

MWong3919d ago

I wasn't too impressed with either conference. I wanted to see more reveals than what we saw.

gaffyh3919d ago

I think the big thing at MS was FIFA 14 being free, but that's not much compared to the slew of indie games, plus Vita price cut, plus release date, plus 32 countries at launch etc.

ShinMaster3919d ago

If you buy a PS4 and FIFA separately, it would still be cheaper than the Xbox One with free FIFA.

Just saying.

Saigon3919d ago

@ShinMaster

You said the right thing. Though MS made that announcement it reallys mean nothing when it comes to nickel and dimes. The PS4 with FIFA 14 still cost less than the inclusion of an Xbone with FIFA 14. I watched the sony conference and I am a little mad most people have yet to talk about what was really shown. Sony showed the UI in action. Sony also showed a slew of 1st party games that were in development, some that were really good and I wish they showed more of those games.

But I honestly think regardless what Sony showed there would have been issues because MS and Nintendo did not have a conference. MS showed nothing in their 40 minute closed conference but gave a lot of information. Sony showed a slew of information along with the Vita and PS4 remote play. I guess to each their own.

JeffGUNZ3918d ago

@ Shinmaster. The Xbox One is more expensive due to Kinect being bundled, simple as that. Free Fifa on top of that is a solid move by MS.

MWong3918d ago

@ JeffGUNZ
A solid move from M$ would be bundle the Kinect with the XBone and reduce the console price. I honestly thought at GamesCom M$ would release a standalone console version of the XBone. Why because the Kinect isn't mandatory anymore.

I can buy a PS4 + Fifa 14 + DLC & I get a free 14 day trail period of PS+ all for the price of an XBone.

sweendog3918d ago

@shinmaster
Also once you are done with FIFA on the ps4 you can trade it in. No such luck with xbox one as everybody has it. I was stuck with project gotham on 360 for years.

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bigfish3919d ago

Im not going to even bother clicking on the story

whoyouwit043919d ago

I bet you would've click if it said sony.

SpecialSauce3919d ago

good for them they need it and a lot more

avengers19783919d ago

They were both pretty boring to me. But at least I know when I can get my hands on my pre ordered PS4, November 15th can't come soon enough.

4Sh0w3919d ago (Edited 3919d ago )

I thought Microsofts great lineup and hands on approach was refreshing and easily better than what sony did which seemed to be relying on indie support and "goodwill" for not introducing drm. Thats nice but Im more interested in seeing something big from ND or Santa Monica.

Hey is this it or are they going to show more tomorrow?

walkincarpet3919d ago

MS did a great job getting themselves out of the way and letting the games do the talking. Sony had some good but set themselves up for disappointment by teasing exclusives and only revealing basically indies. Also Sony keep attacking MS as if they were back in middle school while MS is focusing on making up for its past blunders. MS wins this one, but Sony helped them.

Underworld3919d ago

Couldn't disagree more. In no way did Microsoft win. What did they announce? Fifa free with pre-orders in Europe, Fable and some exclusive content for The Division. Can't remember what else.

Sony's was much better. Not as good I was hoping but still good. Yeah, it would have been nice to see more of The Order and an Uncharted 4 reveal but we still got a lot.

Some things:

PS Vita price drop
Assassin's Creed 3 free for PS plus
Remote play shown with AC
Shadow of the Beast
War Thunder
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture
Rime
A lot of indie games (positive or negative)
LittleBigPlanet Hub
Borderlands 2 for Vita
Minecraft
More Killzone
More Infamous
Spoke about some of the features and apps
Release date

That's a lot.

JeffGUNZ3918d ago

@ Underwolrd.

Give us a break, if you think Sony did a better job then MS here, you're a blatant fanboy. Sony will release a fantastic system, but MS just had a better presentation. So everyone else in the gaming world is wrong but you, huh?

Tapewurm3919d ago

simple and best answer to the title question: Hows abouts NO!

Tapioca Cold3919d ago

it's funny how everyone on here is beating around the bush... I can totally see it. No one is mentioning it.

I am a Sony guy but it's funny to see the sony fanboys all disregarding the one BIG exclusive.

It looks fantastic.

TITANFALL

kremit-213919d ago

Except it will also be on PC and 360

CrimsonSquall3918d ago

Not only is it also on PC, but when the developers have been interviewed about it coming to more platforms they never give haste to say no. Also, it's published by EA so if theres any indication that it may come to PS4, it's that.

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iamnsuperman3919d ago (Edited 3919d ago )

I disagree. I made my view on the FIFA thing here http://n4g.com/user/blogpos... but they didn't really announce anything but that. Sony announced and showed game after game showing support for indies. It is a shame that they didn't showcase more AAA titles but it is nice to see these indies get a focus and the fact they are coming next year

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deep_fried_bum_cake3919d ago

I agree. They seem to have announced that they are giving FIFA free and reaffirmed what we already knew about indie development. I'm not really sure what else they had.

On the Sony side, I have to say that I was surprised by the large Vita focus but pleasantly so. They announced some nice looking titles like Rime. I did go through the conference wondering when the big PS4 games were coming but overall the conference left me with a positive impression.

MajorLazer3919d ago

Most are, what the N4G community love to say, 'timed exclusives' but with an added twist of 'exclusive debut'

Gamer6663919d ago

The indie message is getting old and oversold...

And if I look at my games collection, I don't find indie games are the types I keep going back to...

They definitely provide some ground breaking ideas. But, I don't want to have to weed through hundreds of shovelware indie games to find the few I actually like...

Both announced some new games but neither announced megaton games. Both announced DLC content, but I give the edge to MS with exclusive Division DLC. Sony announced their launch date and MS announced the launch titles, guess the reverse will be true at TGS - Then we can compare real shipping titles and launch dates. MS did announce a unique thing... A new third party release bundled with pre-ordered consoles, which is probably going to help European pre-orders.

So, I give a slight edge to MS.

T23919d ago

You give a slight edge for dlc over shadow, rapture , and rime ? Wow you really dont play many types of games I guess

Saigon3919d ago

I think the problem is that people don't understand indie games are what define the future of games in general. You may disagree with that but in some form of light it is true. Most of Sony main studios were originally indie companies that made a concept that Sony liked and they adopted the concept as a whole along with the game. Perfect example as of recent is MM makers of LittleBigPlanet. If I am not mistaken ND was once an indie company and Sony not only adopted the concept ND created but the company itself. Notice how whenever an indie company is bought by a major publisher the original founder or co founder seems to always leave and start another indie company. Its a rotating process. I support Sony's decision, because I understand where it could lead. And to not leave MS out, they are adapting this concept also.

Gamer6663919d ago

@Saigon.

Almost all development studios start as indies.

I do realize that indies are important, but it seems right now as if they are more important then established studios that constantly deliver great games... Naughty Dogg, Guerilla, 343, Visceral, Twisted Pixel, Sony Santa Monica, Rockstar Boston, UbiSoft Montreal, EA Vancouver, etc.

You have to remember that the AAA franchises are typically $100 million dollar adventures. By not giving focus to these huge investments gamers may end up in a situation where there are only indie games that only cost a few $100,000 to create. There has to be balanced so that great games like Killzone, Halo, CoD, BF, God of War, Gears of War, etc. still are released.

Saigon3919d ago

@Gamer666

I actually disagree with that statement about AAA games needing big budgets in order to be successful or considered AAA. the big budget didn't really occur until last generation and this current generation. The prices to produce games were extremely out of whack the last two generations. In such that we received less games overall this generation than the previous, at least by my knowledge. Look at some of the acclaimed games that were released without a big budget, but received countless awards. Most of them were indie games with small budgets. A perfect example is bastion and flower and oh there are so many to list. We've hit the ceiling on the cost of big budget/AAA games and now it is time to revert. Not meaning not to provide a good budget to create a AAA game, but applying a reasonable budget for these games. Studios shouldn't have to go out of business because they couldn't meet the demand of other AAA games.

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pompombrum3919d ago

Well Sony were boasting preorder numbers, I'm pretty sure Microsoft didn't. That in it's own right is a victory when you can start talking high numbers.

Gamer6663919d ago

Yeah, that means your headed back to being cocky and arrogant...

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk776h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE3h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7302h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 21h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 13h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 11h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 11h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 1h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 15h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 1h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 10h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 5h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 19h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 13h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 20h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 10h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 13h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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