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4 Reasons Why We Don’t Need Anymore Consoles

AlienLion writes:

"It’s not like you need more reasons to love the 50′s, but that’s when man invented both video games and lasers. The decade is basically the guitar solo of human existence but I digress. Ever since gaming appeared, we have been trying to use whatever available technology to make it more awesome, from vector displays to PC’s to HDTV’s to cell phones. If gaming is at all possible on a given gadget, we have put it there (there is Doom on a calculator FFS); and whenever gaming became too much of a pain in the ass on a certain type of a gadget, we have abandoned it and moved on to better things.

For awhile now, video game consoles have been a very convenient and suitable gaming gadget but perhaps it’s time to take a closer look and see if the upcoming 8th generation of consoles is about the time to move on yet again..."

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Zuperman3926d ago

I'll continue to support consoles because of the games.

shivvy243925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

Ratchet and Clank , infamous , Uncharted , TLOU , Halo ! Yep Only on consoles ! Even Desitiny

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Shane Kim3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

The only one pathetic here is you george.

clouds53925d ago

You guys do realize that these games could run just as easily on the PC and look and play even better?
Halo is the best example. It was meant to be the next PC hit then MS bought it and dumbed it down to push their xbox. You should have lived through the golden age of PC gaming before xbox and ps2 were out. Where all the games were developed for the PC, not ported. The half-life aera.
All the things people are excited about with the new consoles (skype voice/type chat, switching between stuff, huge open connected online worlds etc) were there ten years ago. I guess many gamers are too young to have lived through those times? But it is now that i realize that consoles held gaming back 10 freaking years.
So they have catched up? Well he oculus rift is just releasing for pc... Guess we have to wait another 10 years till console manufacturors are ready for todays gaming tools...

Btw i absolutely agree with this blogpost but most people will never see it that way because they do not want to build their own machines. Then they had to get off their couch and do something. They want to buy an overadvertised box with a brand and argue which of the essentially identical boxes is better. Marketing is key. I get slightly off topic but look at how people are praising the ps3? Thats all free advertising.

Well lets leave it at that. Cheers and gaming ftw.

jimmywolf3925d ago

@clouds5

even if console went away the same thing your saying would exist people would want pre made box "alienware"

their still be weaker system, that a game would look like crap compared too another pc. an their still be budget games that never pushed your pc too the max.

console are nice that you have set price an assets too create a game, console don't stop pc gamers. developers do, they don't want spend more $$$ catering too elite few.

clouds53925d ago

@jimmywolf of course you're right. We are brought up to love and buy brands. And it even happens whenyou are aware of the fact its only because of the way you grew up :-)
Still it happens all over our planet and in all kind of businesses. Going way off topic now ;-)

DragonKnight3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

Without even reading the article at all, would I be correct in saying that it has either PC or Mobile or both in it?

**EDIT** @clouds5: "You guys do realize that these games could run just as easily on the PC and look and play even better?"

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trafalger3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

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of course people care, otherwise there would be no market for new graphic cards. how many topics here are filled with raging fanboys going on and on about how much ram each new console has or teraflops being compared? how many times did sony promote the power of the ps3 and are now talking about how fast the ram is for the ps4? people care about how powerful the consoles are just like they care about how games can look and run on the pc.

console fanboys are just as bad as pc elitists.

DragonKnight3925d ago

@trafalger: You respond to something you don't understand apparently.

clouds5 said: "You guys do realize that these games could run just as easily on the PC and look and play even better?"

Obviously talking about console games on PC. I responded with the image because no one cares if console games can run better on PC. They aren't on PC and if people wanted to build a PC they would. The market for graphics cards are for PC gamers, not for console gamers. So again, nobody cares.

trafalger3925d ago

"So again, nobody cares."

is that why there's a petition for gtav to be on the pc? of course people care. not sure why you are speaking on behalf of everyone. you should edit your comments and say 'you' don't care.

console makers know that part of the appeal to buying there hardware is exclusives. if those exclusives came to the pc , pc gamers would care and i imagine some console fanboys would be upset because to them exclusives mean everything. i have seen a lot of people talk about titanfall for example and if it were exclusive to the xbone, pc gamers would care. but it is coming to the pc and i bet ps4 buyers want it to come to that system too. so dont try and be witty saying nobody cares because you like console gaming more.

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edgeofsins3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

@clouds5

Consoles drive game demand more then PC's do. That is why many games release only on consoles, even if they can go on PC without much trouble.

Preference doesn't deter me from understanding that. I like both PC and consoles. I currently only game on laptop, it has a 7640G and 7670M so it plays games well. I will upgrade to a better laptop eventually or build a desktop later on. I know very well how to build a desktop as I had my own last year that I put together and I have helped with people do it and recently have put together my friends PC from start to finish. I will be with PC's always. I however love consoles as well for the exclusives and features. If LittleBIGPlanet did come to PC I would absolutely adore that though. It would likely be better since level limitations would be less and such but Sony is the reason that game was made at all.

ala_7673925d ago

The author of this article is CrackHead! Of Course We need console! Who the hell pays $3000 for a gaming PCs! Its not about affording, its a matter of being smart or stupid

clouds53925d ago

Have you not seen the link to the 700$ pc that already has stronger hardware than ps4? In a year that will be even less...

Boysangur3925d ago

I don't think 90% of people posting actually read the article, even less understood the point.

kayoss3925d ago

To those who say pc is suffice. I'm not about to spend a freakin 1-2 hour optimizing said game so I can play it on pc. This why console exist, convenient. The majority of gamers are not computer literate. They just want sit down turn on a machine and play a game for a few hours. They don't want to spend that time wondering why ther is no sound on the game or why the color look crappy.

levian3925d ago

This type of article again?

I've been a console gamer all my life, but the past few years I've started gaming on the PC as well. Yes, its great. Mods, awesome graphics, dirt cheap steam sales, all of that.

Sometimes though the PC doesn't get a game that's on console. Playing on a console feels different. I prefer gaming with a controller (yes I know you can use them on the PC). Also, I travel fairly often and I usually bring my PS3 with me. I can't very well pack my 50lb custom pc in my backpack or suitcase.

In less than a year, I'm going to have to upgrade my 3 year old ATI 6850 and probably blow a solid $300-500 on a new graphics card, and possibly upgrade from my i5-2500k. On my new $500 console, it will last for 6-10 years without needing to be upgraded, until the new console comes out. And then I will keep it, and continue to play games on it.

TL;DR

We need consoles.

PotatoClock3925d ago (Edited 3925d ago )

The console market dictates the specs for the multi-plats, like last gen. Why would you need to upgrade?
You can still play the same newly released games on PC as you can on console. If the next gen of consoles lasts for 6-10 years then so will your PC.

Multi-plats only scale up on PC. Doesn't mean you need to upgrade your hardware when console hardware hasn't changed.
I'm still using a 4850 and Core 2 Duo. Skyrim at 1080p works fine. Not maxed obviously, but still smoother and prettier than 360 version.

I can understand about mobility, a PC doesn't do that well.

levian3925d ago

I totally get what you're saying. PC's have the capabilities of having games that would be insane to consider on a console, because we can have better hardware. But for the most part, games are based on the lowest common denominator, ie, consoles.

Since I'm playing on PC, I like to have my games maxed out if I can. I can play around 80% of current games on max, and the rest of them (witcher 2 being one of them) on high. Now that the console specs are going up, the hardware demands for PC will go up as well, so I'll be able to run less games on max shortly.

I'll either need to pick up a second 6850 for fairly cheap (150-200 I think) and run crossfire, which not all games support, or dish out some serious cash on a good gpu.

TheXgamerLive3925d ago

Considering all that the XBOX ONE can do and probably the ps4, I think we have more reasons then ever to want and need onsoles and less reasons to play on pc.

Spoons3925d ago

Agreed. As long as console sales thrive, the proof is in the pudding.

dj3boud3924d ago (Edited 3924d ago )

Could we ever have a quality game like The Last of Us without dedicated gaming devices/Consoles? i believe not.

...and poor 4 reasons at that.

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slimeybrainboy3927d ago

No more ease of convenience- That one speaks for itself as a stupid argument. You buy it, you plug it in, you're done.

Price - Again invalid. If you can't sell your games on the PC than when you buy Bioshock, playthrough it in a week. You have just spent £30 you can't get back, whereas on console you can spend £35 and get £25-30 back. Also PS+ means that the money you spend on multiplayer is subsidised by the vast amount of content that will exceed the cost of PS+.

No value - I don't wuite understand the point? That there hasnt been a format change in any media to add value to consoles? Dumb point. I buy a game console to play games, not to watch TV, not to watch movies, not to play music. The fact there havn't been any new formats means that the consoles are just as valuable as ever.

More restrictions - true. Modding is why some people really enjoy PC, not for me. With more restrictions also mean hackers and aimbots and hackers. I will give more restrictions as a positive for PC but it does have it's trade offs.

REASONS TO HAVE CONSOLES

Ease of use
The majority of people play on one system allowing developers without having to scale down to any other systems.
The exclusives
Poor/late PC ports
Additional features on a machine built to facilitate gaming features.

Scatpants3925d ago

Also you don't have forums full of nerds crying about "this game doesn't work right on my videocard I am never buying a game from this company again" or this is a shoddy console port it doesn't play good, I am never buying a game from this company again" wahhhhh. I don't know how many times I've read something like this with big game launches but I know it's a bunch.

levian3925d ago

Couldn't agree more. I love pc gaming, but I have to jump through hoops to get a game to work sometimes. Stalker: SoC isn't even playable on my pc, so that was money down the drain.

Also its nice to actually own a physical copy of your games. I love steam and steam sales. Who doesn't like getting AAA games for like 10 bucks? But in 10 years, I don't know if steam will still be around, and if my hundreds of dollars spent will be gone. With my console games, I will have them until I choose to sell them.

SpideySpeakz3927d ago

I've got a master idea that will make PC and console gaming obsolete forever. I just need 10 - 15 years, with a fund of 15 - 20 billion dollars, and a massive scientific research of the human brain. No more controller. No more television screens.

GenericNameHere3925d ago

Uhhh... Isn't that already invented? I seem to recall me and my cousin playing this just this morning. It's this foreign thing called "going outside". However, there are no TV "outside", so I'll just stick with playing videogames with a controller and TV for now.

SpideySpeakz3924d ago

You don't even know what I'm talking about.
I could very well be talking about absolutely... NOTHING.

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KillrateOmega3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

1) Convenience
2) Exclusive games
3) True optimization due to the fixed hardware. No need for developers to scale their games.
4) Substantially lower initial price

shivvy243925d ago

one thing that matters to me the most are the exclusives ! games like ratchet and infamous are only on playstation :)

TheFirstClassic3925d ago

Theres also local multiplayer, which unfortunately has decreased a bit over the years.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 3h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle14h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188111h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio11h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning776h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga13h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218312h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga11h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan7h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit13m ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus236h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv726h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10116h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos15h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-5h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac15h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10114h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic12h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead5h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 12h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken23h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 8h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 8h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 8h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 4h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 7h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 7h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 23h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 21h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 18h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 11h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 13h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 9h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 21h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 7h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 6h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger3h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 22h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 22h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 19h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 21h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 21h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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