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Why next-gen consoles won't run games at 4K

Just because some say they can, doesn't mean they should. Based on the latest graphics hardware no one should expect great 4K gaming in this next generation of consoles.

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Isis063938d ago

Are you one of those people that shit money?

fo3n1x3938d ago

no i make mine...hard a hard on visualising gaming on 4k

Isis063938d ago

PC it is bro... but if you thought the consoles were going for 4000k you're ether delusional or ill informed.
Some day though... It's going to be amazing.

kneon3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

You won't need to be rich to get a 4K TV. 4K TV's start as low as $5k now, by Christmas 2014 they will likely be in the low $2k range.

rustyspoon803938d ago

Want a cheap 4k tv, check this out:-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pr...

It's probably rubbish though.

Isis063938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

I have three kids... the economy is craps... I'm trying to keep my house... and my wife... so sry if my logic does not apply to yours but...
Are you one of those people that shit money?

kneon3938d ago

@Isis06

Ok so I make about 4 times the average salary, and my wife is not far behind. So if I wanted to I could buy a $5k TV today and not even notice the cost. What's wrong with that? I've put in my time at university and my career and am very well paid because I'm really good at what I do.

While you may not be able to afford a 4K TV anytime soon there will be a lot of people who can once they get into the price range of current higher end Smart TVs, which is typically around $2k+

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Isis063938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

Then you have to get with the program...
you are rich.
Nothing wrong with that... good job getting there... hope you earned it.
But you kind of sound like you don't realize coz your saying stuff like... you don't have to be rich to drop 2k without notic...
YES YOU DO!

extermin8or3938d ago

The point I think is, that for consoles to support this, they'd cost a hell of alot more than they are going to. So no only would you need the TV which people with money would buy and people without wouldn't bother, but then the majority of normal people would be paying extra for features they'd likely never have the other tech to use, at least not in the foreseeable future. PS4 supports 4k movie output apparently so... at least that's something this isn't quite the same as last gens bluray and hd tv switch over. 4k has much less noticeable gains for most people.

minimur123938d ago

because nobody has a 4k tv

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nukeitall3938d ago

I was hoping we would get an upgraded console every 3-4 years that is BC with previous generation.

All games released has to work on the two latest consoles. That gives each console a minimum of 6 year support from release.

Lower upgrade cost and smaller upgrade, but keeps up with technology. The way it is now, 7-8 years is just too long.

kneon3938d ago

I expect this is actually what will happen now that they have moved to x86 platforms. They will be able to upgrade to newer hardware without major redesigns and still maintain backwards compatibility.

wishingW3L3938d ago

who knows... The Xbox was x86 but then MS went with powerPC with the 360 like everybody else.

JsonHenry3938d ago

The GPUs in the consoles simply could not do 4k with any form of decent visual fidelity options turned up. And even some high end PC would have a hard time keeping up with 4k rez.

The tech in the GPUs just isn't cheap enough at this point for it to be practical.

medman3938d ago

4k is highly overrated. The human eye cannot perceive the difference between 1080 and 4k unless you have a screen size above 75 inches or sit less than 4 feet from the screen. It's not that big a deal folks. Just more marketing hype. Sorta like the push a few years ago when retailers and manufacturers tried to convince consumers 3d was the future and something you absolutely had to have. 3d is a novelty, at best. Same with 4k. I'm much more interested in organic light emitting diode televisions (Oled's)...that is a difference you can truly see.

greenlantern28143938d ago

the reason is because hardly anybody has one. why take time and money to make something that people dont have. like it or not there are plenty of people who only just now got a hdtv.
but i would guess that much like the film ware update that made the ps3 a 3d bluray player that if the market becomes big enough than a filmware update will be the fix again since i am pretty sure they are both capable of 4k video playback

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fo3n1x3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

i would buy a 4k TV much earlier if next gen consoles supported 4K for games...seems like ill have to wait for the next next gen!

iamnsuperman3938d ago

I would as well. But, for me, much early would be like 7 years from now. 4K tvs are too expensive and almost unnecessary if you're playing on a 32-42 inch TV. I think these things are just a fad. On a normal sized TV 4k is hardly noticeable. 4K and beyond should really be limited to cinemas or big sporting events because the screens are much bigger and so you can see the difference.

Salooh3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

I think i will wait 2 or 3 years then i will buy a 4k tv. It will be my gift for graduating college :P . By then 4k tvs will probably cost 1000$ :D

DJMarty3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

4K TV's upscale madia to 4K inc games, so Nex gen will be able to game at 4K(just upscaled).

SnakeCQC3938d ago

sony said the ps4 would support 4k movies

Drakul3938d ago

4k movies cant fit in blu ray. for 4k resolution a new media is necessity which is NOT blu ray. they ment 4k remastered movies, compressed movies.
No chance that our ps4 s will come with some hidden media support.
i bet in the future they will release ps4 4k version with better graphic card and media support for true 4k.

Foxgod3938d ago

4K can fit in a blu ray, they will use triple layer Blu rays for it which store up to a 120 GB of data.

kneon3938d ago

4K media will use the new HEVC H.265 codec which offers twice the compression of H.264. And The BDXL format which supports up to 128GB per disk has been standardized for a few years now.

So we have a disk format with 2.5x the capacity of bluray and a codec that requires only half the storage space giving an effective video storage increase of 5x, but we only need 4x for 4K.

And future bluray formats will likely support capacities of up to a few TB. 500GB+ has been shown off years ago and the theoretical maximum is around 5TB.

nukeitall3938d ago

I have good news, streaming will solve all your problems.

blu-ray is soon to be history in the next 5 years or so.

wishingW3L3938d ago

streaming 4k... Is that a joke? 0_O

kneon3938d ago

@nukeitall

Streaming doesn't even handle 1080p well yet. I don't use Netflix because I won't put up with the quality downgrade. And it's not my connection as it clocks in at 80+Mbps, lately it's been even higher. Speedtest needs an upgrade as my tests spend a lot of time pegged at 100Mbps.

extermin8or3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

Plus sony already developed a new high density disc and reading laser for it a couple of years back that started with 1TB disc space. But at the time it cost liek 20k-was said expect to see it hit market around 2020 for $500-ps5 anyone? :p
@kneon: but what's your ping like? if too many packets are being lost your bandwidth could be best ever but you aren't recieiving all the data that was actually sent which would much up your streaming, check on pingtest-conneted to speedtest.

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Tundra3938d ago

Because they're not powerful enough. You'd need atleast a GTX 680 (or AMD equivalent) to run BF3 on ultra with a steady 30fps on 4K res.

But I'm sure the common consumer doesn't want to pay $800+ for a console either.

SnakeCQC3938d ago

you need better than a 680 to run bf4 at ultra at 4k and games get even more demanding every year.

Tundra3938d ago

Digital Foundary has a vid of them running BF3 on a 680 at 4K on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

SnakeCQC3938d ago

ohh they turned off aa i may pick up a 4k tv soon to try this out

kneon3938d ago

Comparing a PC to consoles is not a simple comparison. There is a lot of overhead on PCs. The hardware is more than capable, it's the multitude of software layers that slow things down. If you were to write to bare metal then you could achieve 4K resolution on a PC with much lower specs.

GT5 was shown off running at 4K using 4 PS3s working together, the PS4 is more than 4x more powerful so some games could run at 4K. But don't expect something like a AAA FPS or open world game. It would be more likely be smaller games or something like a racing game that has restricted environments.

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mkis0071h ago

Such a good game to me. Crazy how different peoples opinions can get.

Crows901h ago(Edited 1h ago)

For me it wasn't that surprising. There was some bad press before. There's also the matter and element of a person's disposition when trying out a certain game. Sometimes you're just not really into the type of game that you're playing so you put it down because you don't like it. Not necessarily because it's a bad game but because you're just not up for something like this. Reviewers have a tough because no matter what they feel like playing they've got to play what's releasing.

I have many times gone back to games that I put down only to thoroughly enjoy them the second time around because either there wasn't another exciting game coming out around the same time or I just had no other games to play and haven't played that type of game in a while. I'm not the type of person that can just play a souls game through all this iterations one after the other without getting burnt out on the formula.

In my opinion this game was great from the start. Some bugs here and there but nothing worse than the most AAA releases during the same time after and before. All I did was wait one week and I had a phenomenal time with the game. No other zombie survival game comes close to how I thoroughly enjoyed this one

Leeroyw1h ago

Second act of that game far surpassed the first. Which is why people felt it didn't live up to the hype of the trailers. Personally I loved it. But it was a slog to get your bike and weapons up to skill.

Inverno51m ago

Was gonna post a brick wall of text but I'll keep it short. Pardon my French but f**k the media for the hate they gave this game. If you have a PC to play it on you can get it as low as 10 bucks, and if you have a PS then it's a no brainer. Totally worth a play.

phatak34m ago(Edited 25m ago)

I don't even comment here often but had to for this game, I still stand by my opinion that this was one of the top 10 games of the ps4 generation, I preferred days gone over god of war, horizon and last of us 2, the launch version was definitely piss poor and that messed up the reviews for this game, honestly some games deserve a re-review or post patch review as the metacritic score stays forever but the reality is its not even the same game anymore, the ps5 patch is amazing and the pc version which I play on nowadays is one of the best looking games ever, complete shame that we wont get a sequel, god of war got one, horizon got one, last of us got one, spider man got one,ghosts of tshushima about to get one but this game wont get one, sucks to be honest.

Ps3/360 era had some hidden underated games for me it was shadows of the damned, alice madness returns that deserved more sales and a sequel/ higher scores, and similarly for the ps4 era it was days gone, and dying light 1 that deserved much more love, dying light atleast got a sequel, everyone needs to play this game once and judge for themselves, for me its officially the most underrated game of the ps4 era, go play it if you haven't.