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Pro-DRM Xbox One Petition Is Most Active On Change.Org

The gamers looking for Microsoft to rollback their rollback have gathered at the popular petition site.

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Sev3941d ago

Yeah, I don't get it either. The gaming public flip-flops more than Microsoft does.

wishingW3L3941d ago

because gamers are not a single entity. We all are from different countries, with different cultures and with extremely different ways of thinking.

Kingthrash3603941d ago

im beginning to think it ms employees thats doing tge partitioning....and maybe a few xbots.....I just can believe it would be actual gamers that want this.....I smell conspiracy.

Anthotis3941d ago

...extremely retarded ways of thinking(@xbox fansboys).

malokevi3941d ago

If you take a look, its clear that 80% of respondents are Sony Attack Force trolls.

This is #1 because a bunch of kids are bored on summer vaca. Write-off.

Too bad, because I actually genuinely signed it and gave my opinion, before I realized that I was being drowned out by a bunch of trolls who don't know when to quit.

nukeitall3941d ago

I support it so maybe I should sign it.

That's it, I'm signing it!

I hope this gains steam so we can introduce next generation gaming instead of relying on old fashion stone age physical discs.

BDSE3941d ago

70 million XBOX 360's sold, 12,000 sign a petition. You do the math.

solidjun53941d ago

"I support it so maybe I should sign it.

That's it, I'm signing it!"

You're probably the one who started it.

thechosenone3941d ago

I just signed it. LOL Lets get that DRM back on the Xbox. xD

omi25p3941d ago

I was all for DRM, but i knew the industry wasn't ready for it.

There are still to many people without internet for it to be worth it.

CoolBeansRus3940d ago

Do they have a anti-drm petition? Because im pretty sure that would have a lot more than 17k signatures .

SilentNegotiator3940d ago (Edited 3940d ago )

It's mostly hilarious trolls, going by the top comments.

It's Microsoft's fault for taking out the sharing capabilities, not gamers. Gamers just wanted the 24 hour checks gone.

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AngelicIceDiamond3941d ago

Sounds like a handful of MS fanboys are trying to screw the rest of us gamers.

dark-hollow3941d ago

How do we know they are genuine Xbox fans and not random trolls seeing as how any anonymous person can sign?

Going after what raging fanboys did from death threats to developers who supported other consoles, all the way to negative reviews on metacritic.

I won't be surprised, hardcore fanboys are just pathetic like that.

MWH3941d ago

rumor has it that these are MS themselves.

n4rc3941d ago

Yea.. were out to screw "you" gamers..

Do you have any plans on buying one anyways? Doubt it.. So why would your opinion matter to anyone at ms?

I want those features back to.. And I did sign it.. Everyone seems to have this entitled opinion that what they think is right and those who disagree are wrong..

dedicatedtogamers3941d ago

Just before Xbox One launches, Microsoft announces:

"We've heard the voice of our fans, the true gamers out there, and we've decided to put the 24-hour connection back in! Horray!"

dbjj120883941d ago

"Now everyone go pick up your preorders!"

Rusty5153941d ago

No. The month AFTER it launches when everyone has one lol

dark-hollow3941d ago

Lol do they really think that will change anything? Do they thought that ms reversed the DRM in first place because they "listened" to us?

The only reason the reverse it was mainly due to the low preorders after the announcement. Our complains only confirmed it to Microsoft that we are pissed.

HammadTheBeast3941d ago

It's actually kind of depressing that this is the most active thing on Change.org.

3-4-53941d ago

How do we know it's not just Microsoft paying people to do this.

Then, 2 years from now they use it as "evidence" to justify them bringing it back and say" well you wanted it back".

There is more to this people....keep thinking

Mounce3941d ago

I signed it for 'lols'.

I doubt I'd get an Xbox One, so even if this effectively went anywhere? It'd not affect me.

Urusernamesucks3941d ago

This proves the Pettition is being mostly signed by ps trolls

Mounce3941d ago

Would you honestly think that legitimate people would ACTUALLY sign something that idiotic?

Let alone, no one here can truly say whether or not the creator of this petition itself is a troll.

Cmon. I'm just going with the flow of what's funny, doesn't hurt anyone. No one needs to become stiff and rustled because of something so redundant because this is going nowhere and will be forgotten in no time.

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dbjj120883941d ago

Obviously some people saw the always-online stuff as a benefit, some as a bad thing.... and Change.org is caught in the middle.

ShugaCane3941d ago

"This was to be the future of entertainment. A new wave of gaming where you could buy games digitally, then trade, share or sell those digital licenses."

lol

wishingW3L3941d ago (Edited 3941d ago )

and then he says "consumers were uninformed". Wow, talking about delusions....

madpuppy3941d ago

This petition is delusional, Did they ACTUALLY BELIEVE that you were going to be able to freely sell trade and share your games like you do now but digitally?!?!

MS was trying to open up a world that never saw a drop in the price of a game and MS authorized buyers of your digital licences would never have given you any more than you get now from gamestop. and they would NEVER allow you to sell or give your game away to a friend, he woud have to pay full price to be able to play it. didn't anybody read how this was going to go down?? when MS finally started telling us how this was going to work, it was even worse than anyone imagined!

There is no one in their right mind signing a petition for this horror show of consumer unfriendly policies unless you are stupid, a paid astroturfer or a MS employee.

HammadTheBeast3941d ago

These idiots actually thought that with the family plan you could just give away 9 copies of your game to other people.

madpuppy3941d ago

@HammadTheBeast

Kudos to you comprehension skills!

I agree with you, there are people out there that only hear what they want to hear and just get upset later when they found out the they were wrong and are stuck with a product with draconian restrictions that costs them an arm and leg to own.

OC_MurphysLaw3941d ago

Lord... well if anything good can come from this lets hope it revolves around online sharing and digital games. No way will MS do another 180 on the disc based DRM.

AngelicIceDiamond3941d ago

I agree, these people are just wasting there time. If MS listens and somehow implements the restrictions. I'll know who to blame, gamers.

madpuppy3941d ago

YAY! RESTRICTIONS!

that's what gamers want, restrictions! that is even better than gameplay!! or graphics!!

:P

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7213h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle34m ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Cacabunga1m ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

purple1012h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac1h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos33m ago(Edited 32m ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 10h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 7h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 4h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN22h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo23h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies19h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 7h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic17h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9017h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 9h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 8h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 5h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 8h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 7h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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