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Xbox One's DRM Explained

The Xbox One has online DRM. But what does this mean, and why isn’t it as big as deal as you might think? Shaxster explains.

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Yo Mama3982d ago (Edited 3982d ago )

Boy, these no name, generic, pro-microsoft sites are coming out of the woodwork today. Microsoft must have contracted out some positive PR spin . Damage control.

WorldGamer3982d ago

My thoughts exactly. Phantom "experts" emerging from the ether to defend MS.

Does make sense however, I don't think MS really anticipated the negative reaction they got. At this point, it seems like they might be trying to stop the bleeding, if I may use that analogy.

JokesOnYou3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

Yeah of course all the negative news threads were legit but how dare any site examine the pro and cons without forming a negative opinion.

If you actually read it, hes not waving pom-poms, no its just a well thought analysis of micros drm plans.

I cant believe of all people you guys complain about a few balanced/positive news stories amongst a parade of negative ones...hmmm probably because these sound alot more accurate, informative and balanced than a 1000 "why you shouldn't buy a Xbone" blogs. lol

Biggest3981d ago

"Yeah of course all the negative news threads were legit but how dare any site examine the pro and cons without forming a negative opinion."

You are absolutely correct, JokesOnYou. How dare anyone form a positive opinion. There are no positives to this from a consumer's perspective. Isn't that what we are?

YNWA963981d ago

Yeah, phantom experts... Oh wait, this site is full of them.... All well paid experts..... Fantastic...

JokesOnYou3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

Biggest
"There are no positives to this from a consumer's perspective."

See thats the problem you believe your perception to be a fact.

You are unwilling to see there are 2 sides to every coin, where you see drm some see usage conveniences or even a way to pay less for brand new retail games on day 1 vs used game fee/price.

Now if you just flat out say YOU personally prefer the traditional way used games are handled vs drm restriction regardless of the convenience/financial incentive then fine but assuming thats the case for everyone just means you like to dictate whats best for everyone and likely wont read or sensibly discuss the validity of the writers points.

greenlantern28143981d ago

@JokesonYou
cheaper games, ms announced as did sony that next gen games will be 60$ so the same price there goes that point. the positives are only for ms and devs if they want to take advantage of this but not to you the consumer, for now anyways. and you continue to miss the fact that not every one that is totally pro xbox cant get online so they cant get xbox 1. right. even ms has said that 40 million xbox live accounts but that is a little over 50% of xbox360 sold, ms potentially cutting about half their market

justastranger103981d ago

Everything in that article was true. It's also true that Sony is going bankrupt but everytime I mention it, people get so upset and angry. Why? I didn't lie or anything. It's the truth.

CYCLEGAMER3981d ago

@greeniantern

Some games will be cheaper, Killer instinct is the prime example of one.

i.e. you can either buy killer instinct at full retail price $60 or you can get the game for free with one character, and choose which characters you want to download. If I will generally only play with 5 or 6 characters, I will have made out like a bandit (depending on the price of the characters).

Sono4213981d ago

@ JokesOnYou

"some see usage conveniences or even a way to pay less for brand new retail games on day 1 vs used game fee/price."

What? Care to go into detail at all? Stop being so vague. Explain one convenience that requires DRM, and as for paying less for a used game... What? How do you figure that? Seriously not hating or being a fanboy I legit want an explanation because both of these are new to me.

NewMonday3981d ago

"If you think this 24 hour requirement is a problem…get over it"

gamers don't have to, the XBone is not the only game in town.

@JokesOnYou

can explain to me why Steam and iOS games can be played off line on multiple devices without check-in?

can you explain to me why an Xbone game is still $60 but I cant use it indefinitely?

can you explain to me why I don't have a choice to NOT sync my games to the digital library and thus don't need a 24h check in?

this "article" is just another shill piece that tries to cover up the MS anti-consumer assault, tell your masters it's not working.

Freedomland3981d ago

It's not about DRM or anything else but about over all approach towards gaming, consumer rights and freedom to play, sell, borrow and gift your games. They made everything so complicated that I would surely prefer even not to do it.
Ps4 all the way for me.

Death3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

Consumer rights...
Read your User Agreement. Ask someone to explain it if you can't comprehend it.

The article is a very good read. It explains the features and benefits of having a digital library. It explains the DRM needed to prevent dishonest people from stealing all their games. When I sign into Steam from my laptop, it signs me out of my PC. You need to authenticate the system you play on. This is DRM. You also can't trade these games, sell them or gift them to a friend.

If you want to give up the ability to play all your games without the disc in the drive locally or have access to all your games remotely, buy the PS4. XboxOne games can still be traded. You just can't give them away. You can still loan them out, but you are being forced to do it digitally without actually handing them a physical copy.

XboxOne games have more flexibility than PSN or Live Marketplace games since you still retain a physical copy and enjoy the convenience of the digital too. If this scares you, once again buy the PS4 and pray that Sony doesn't decide to evolve like everyone else.

Nobody thought Sony would trample the "rights" to play online for free. How is that working out?

gaffyh3981d ago

@JOY - I agree with the usage convenience, but personally I thin the cons outweigh the pros, and feel like people shouldn't buy an XBone, especially at launch, just out of principle, because accepting some of the measures MS has put in place now, will lead to a world of hurt in the following generations.

@sono - He means the fact that you can install and run games, without having to swap discs. It is a good thing that, but you can do the same with digital downloads, if only they were price accordingly.

Freedomland3981d ago

@Death

And you think hackers will leave X1 alone.
Don't compare Steam because Steam is for pc not for consoles because pc is always online.
If I wanted Steam, I could have bought a gaming pc and it can do a lot more things than X1.
I need a console which can play games in a simplest way anywhere, anytime, just pop in the disc and play.
You've been paying for Live for years and now you complain about Psn, you know that Gaikai services are really expensive.
Sony provided psn free for nearly 7 years and still it's free for ps3.

SilentNegotiator3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

It's a no name site using the old "it's not so bad" line.
You can't be so dense as to fall for that.

It's sad and telling that only the most intense of fanatics are even trying to convince people that it isn't "bad"...just "not so bad"

dantesparda3981d ago

So now MS and all their lackeys and fanboys (the Microsoft Defense Force) are insulting my intelligence and trying to tell me that im an idiot for not understanding why this sh!t they are trying to impose on us, is not only good, but actually better. F-you MS, you're the dumb@sses, not me/us for not falling for this crap! and Jokes is just becoming more and more of a joke all the time with every new comment he makes and Death is just another diehard MS fanboy, who is actually worst than Jokes in my opinion.

Dueces!

mananimal3981d ago

Nope.

You might want to check the track record of MS giving your data over to the NSA.

Especially in light of all the spying that's been uncovered (and anyone with a dinosaur brain has known about).

Because Microsoft DOES give your data away, it does sell or trade it with other corporations (thousands of them).

If the NSA requests your data....Microsoft will hand it over...it doesn't even need a real court order. It doesn't even need an unconstitutional FISA kanagaroo court order, or a letter of national security.

Because they also let the gov't jack into their stuff and you know then no one has to ask Microsoft jack.

Also in other operations they jack into the backbone of the internet and record everything.

Here's a clue people...if it's electronically communicated...it's being recorded.

Didn't anyone read how members of congress were finally briefed on what was going on. You know what they said?

"In a C-SPAN Journal Video interview yesterday, Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) said about the secret NSA briefing Congress received Tuesday, that the federal surveillance programs revealed in media reports are just "the tip of the iceberg."

"What we learned in there," Sanchez said, "is significantly more than what is out in the media today."

Sanchez said lawmakers were "astounded" by what they heard. "I think it's just broader than most people even realize, and I think that's, in one way, what astounded most of us, too," Sanchez said of the briefing. "

Oh yes they are watching you. Your data from what your heart rate to how you react to something (since they can tell your mood) to all sorts of data including audio and video.

Then they come out with a bill entitled...."We are watching you" to curb some of this crap.

Why do you think that is???? Think the title is a bit of a hint? A way to get around national security bs? You bet your sweet ass.

When it comes to spying, especially when the gov't tells them to keep it hush, hush....you don't refer back to MS to 'prove' Kinect doesn't watch you.

Are people really that fucking stupid????? That fucking naive???? Don't be morons.

4Sh0w3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

Its clear to me some like what X1 is doing some don't some will buy it some won't.

It just bothers me that the was who wont care so much about what others buy. If it really sucks X1 will fail like you wanted it to anuway and you can still play your ps4, win win for the ones who don't like it.

Fortunately no individual group dictates the direction of a free market, thus the mass market will decide, hell they've already decided every piece of entertainment media has a digital download format with drm restrictions and this method continues yo grow in popularity, soon games will go the way of CDs in that the method of sales and usage will be almost entirely dd.

LonDonE3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

Microsoft have reversed xbox 1 online and used game policies, bravo this is a good day for gamers and consumers, and has shown the greedy corporations we wont take it laying down!!
http://uk.ign.com/articles/...

Dee_913980d ago

DRM is there for the digital library
/article
now the question is, who wants to give up their rights for a digital gaming library?

Gaming1013980d ago

lol here's the sad part: this is just a fanboy site, they're not being paid by Microsoft. Msoft executives have no clue they even exist, they write this garbage solely out of their fanboy allegiance to all things X-bone.

Here's what I still don't know - if I haven't authenticated in 24 hours, what do they really mean that I won't be able to play games? Does it mean that I just need to re-authenticate by connecting to the internet again? Or is there some other process whereby all your games are accessible again? How do I get my games back without an internet connection if my internet goes down temporarily? Oh that's right, I can't. Not even single player.

And who are these "gamers" who desperately want DRM and a digital based future? They're a minority, if the outcry over used games is any indication. If the audience of people buying everything digitally was so big, there would be no qualms over this DRM. This is what the writer of this fanboy website has failed to recognize. Time to get out of the bubble, we do not live in an all digital age of games, retail will always exist as long as people enjoy borrowing games, trading them in, and buying used.

End of discussion.

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Mikelarry3982d ago

today??? try since last week bro.

its funny tho if microsoft truly believed they had the right approach wouldn't they let the amazing games and the value of kinect speak for itself makes you wonder hey

HammadTheBeast3981d ago

All week, I've been seeing "news" of MS heads spewing BS about "cloud", "digital era", always connected, kinect, and just so much damage control garbage its like a joke.

Meanwhile, people are making news about Sony one-liners.

Narutone663981d ago

They might be in trouble now. See this news: http://www.warpzoned.com/20...

MizTv3981d ago

Yeah it's called bullshit

RedHawkX3981d ago

yep basically this. xbox 360 owenrs i dont know why you are trying to get an xbox one because no ones gonna buy it. xbox one is the new myspace buddy. its dead finished people are moving over to the ps4 its cheaper and more powerful and it makes since to get it. ps4 top of the preorder charts everywhere. that xbox live experience is no more. that experience times 10 is coming to the ps4 and thats where all the people will be. stop fighting it and use your brains if you still got one.

Death3981d ago

Cheaper and more powerful.

You get less in the box and the power will be determined with the software. Anyone that trully feels one is better than the other isn't very bright. Both have Jaguar 8 core CPUs, 8 gigs of ram and a 7000 series derived AMD GPU. The only difference is the type of ram being used. Search for the difference between DDR3 and GDDR5 ram online. Then make an informed opinion about which is the better way to go. I'll give you a hint, neither is ideal.

The Real Peter Moore3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

@Death

STFU with that bullsh!t, you know damn well that the GDDR5 gives PS4 way more bandwidth than Xbone's GDDR3. PS4's GDDR5 RAM gives it a 176GB of bandwidth throughout its entire 8GB RAM pool, whereas Xbone's GDDR3 only has ~66GB to its RAM. But yeah, that's not alot faster, right? And dont talk to me about some tiny 32MB cache that runs at a ~102GB bandwidth, cuz you'll only get that bandwidth to a minuscule amount of RAM. You thats why MS put those "Move Engine" chips in the Xbone right? each one has 25GB of bandwidth to try and compensate for the differEnce between the GDDR3 RAM's bandwidth and the ESRAM's bandwidth. But you realize, that, this make the Xbone a far more complicated architecture when compared to the PS4, right?

They may both have the same CPU but we dont know what modifications (if any) were made to each one and i know Sony has talked about a few of them, i havent heard of any from MS. And even the AMD guy said that he was really impressed with the PS4's APU but has said no such thing of MS'.

But when it comes to the GPU side of things, its a whole different story. And here the PS4 is clearly superior, with over 50% higher CU performance than Xbone. Now if the programmers are going to develop to the lowest common denominator (clearly being the Xbone here) then yes, you wont see a difference. But otherwise, you would see a difference where the PS4 version, could run at a higher res and with higher frames rates and more effects like AA or AF. And this nonsense about Xbone giving you more for the money? Are you crazy? i aint paying no extra $100 for no fvcking Kinect! Im straight with that sh!t, you can keep that, little kid! And Sony sells the PS4's PS Eye for $59, still cheaper than Xbone. Man, you're one dumb fanboy! Now you go read up and learn a little something.

HammadTheBeast3981d ago

I honestly don't know how you'd explain it, it's DRM lol. What's there not to get?

trancefreak3981d ago

I just hope that Microsoft's DRM POLICIES doesn't enforce unintended unnecessary charges onto other gaming consoles' used value and resell.
I would not want Gamestops and other trade in stores to try and compensate for losses with Microsoft's trade in/ re sell/ policies.

That will piss me off

TheHybrid3981d ago

What facts in this article were false? Sounds like a cut and dry examination of how it's going to work. Tired of hearing ppl speak out against something they don't understand

Caffo013981d ago

What's false?

The fact that DRM "isn’t as big as deal as you might think".

jmc88883981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

Because they act like it's the ONLY way to do things.

There's 1000 ways to skin a cat, and last I checked Steam sends me an email that my account is registered to when I log on, if it sees I'm at a different computer. (when I LOG ON, not when Steam decides to)

The difference? I can play my games offline with no reason to need being online.

There are many ways to go about it, requiring a 24 hour check-in or my console useless is mornoic.

Especially if some people won't share anything. You see that Microsoft assumes EVERYBODY is going share EVERYTHING with as many as they can and each one of them is going to try to abuse it.

Why is it that if I download a game, or even have the disc itself, it can't tell without an online check?

Especially when PS4 allows others to play a game with them that they don't own without the DRM.

Also then the article makes light of the situation...saying in most places..

Well most isn't everyplace, yet everyplace the console is at it is beholden to these rules. It affects more than you know.

How many people have internet access in their living room, but not in little billy's bedroom?

Also the world has varying levels of internet capability.

Others have tons of data caps, and if someone is over, or the Xbox One breaches those caps, their entire console is bricked. The Xbox One isn't made for them?

So I guess the Xbox One isn't made for about 1/3 of all gamers, which means it isn't for gamers.

Last I checked no matter what someone elses internet is, I can still play my multiplayer games, but you say because MS wants DRM that since some players can't or won't bend over for it, it's holding you back? No...that's MS holding you back. Because THEY DECIDED IT!!!!

He makes assumptions then that it's THOSE people holding him back? Try steam buddy.

Oh and it completely forgot the #1 reason people shouldn't need to rely on such checks...the PSN network hack.

That's right, had PS3 used the same features that are in the Xbox One your internet might have been just fine, but since Microsoft's wasn't working, you would have not been able to use your console for a month.

Guesses, errors, omissions, and incorrect assumptions.

..and it doesn't at all talk about the 100 percent guaranteed to spy on you massively Kinect.

...and doesn't talk about $100 more for a console where the graphics card isn't even worth $100.

It's important price is factored in, because you are paying more and getting so much less.

badkolo3981d ago

they are blinded, it clearly states why its needed, becuase you can share aND TRADE YOUR GAMES DIGITALY AND THE DRM STOPS YOU FORM STEALING or playing the game with 2 people at the same time which you cant do now, learn to read

fatstarr3981d ago

they are pushing alot of shill stuff to all the videogame centrals. next ign will be pro xbox after a couple of checks are cashed.

defyenz3981d ago

Wait til you own your own business and have to do everything to get it back to top form.Strictly business son.Watch and learn. Might be useful to you in the future once you realize the living in your video game world does'nt cut it in the real world.

NextGen24Gamer3981d ago

Great read. Sony fans will never like these type of articles. Clear to the point and it clearly shows the advantage of having disc less gaming. Sony will catch up to Xbox next gen and have disc less gaming and these same pigeons will say how great it is. Lol

DigitalRaptor3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

What about the advantages of Internet-less gaming. I bet you won't see them, right? In fact, a huge chunk of the world won't see those benefits because of the glaring problems that come with the requirements, but that's okay cause they won't be buying a worthless brick.

Keep pretending this is exclusive to Sony fans. When the reports come through relating to Internet-based or DRM-based issues from Xbox One purchasers, the last laugh will come from those sensible enough to not have supported MS.

NextGen24Gamer3981d ago

I haven't Internet less gamed in over 7 years. I would assume it would be a requirement moving forward into the next generation. If your a person with no Internet, you are stuck in the past and the future is leaving u behind

greenlantern28143981d ago

sony currently way ahead in pre orders so why do they have to catch up to ms? devs will make their games for witch ever system they can sell more games on.
also you all seem to think sony cant do digital but the ps3 has a huge amount of content on the ps network right now and lots of day one digital releases the same will apply to ps4. sony gives you and game devs options. ms forces you to bend to their will

NextGen24Gamer3981d ago

@Greenlantern

"sony currently way ahead in pre orders so why do they have to catch up to ms?"

When I say catch up and have disc less games, I mean exactly that. In order to do that they need to have DRM in place and need to support that. It needs to be a standard for it to actually work when you buy a game and never have to use the disc again. Sony will eventually do it, and all YOU sony fans will say how great it is! Late to the party! LOL

"devs will make their games for witch ever system they can sell more games on."

No your partially wrong. Devs will sell their games where they can make the most money off their games. MS with their DRM will guarantee devs that thei game sales will go directly to them every time a game is sold or resold. So while they might sell more copies on the ps4, they will make more money from their games on the xbox one...Don't get it twisted. These guys are in it to make money kiddo! LOL

"also you all seem to think sony cant do digital but the ps3 has a huge amount of content on the ps network right now and lots of day one digital releases the same will apply to ps4. sony gives you and game devs options. ms forces you to bend to their will"

Sony can do digital, Sony can do eye toy, sony can do cloud, LOL...the problem with all of that is that it's all optional and Sony hasn't invested all of their resources in the future. They have one foot in and one foot out...which means it won't be fully realized on the Ps4. It's common sense really. Xbox is ALL IN on the new tech and features and DRM...Meaning that they are way ahead of Sony in every next gen feature set...Sony will do many of the things Xbox One is doing now with their next Next gen console...LOL...

Meanwhile Xbox One gamers will already have it....This November!

Just like Sony is now charging for online gaming...LOL...Follow the leader...Sony fans from all walks of life bashed the xbox for having to pay to play online...LOL....Funny how far advanced MS was in that area...Sony is playing catch up and MS is leading the way!

Now Sony fans love having to pay to play online...LOL...No complaints from anyone....lol...This site is too funny. I love it!

badz1493981d ago

what is this "disc less gaming" that you're talking about like it's something new on consoles? if you ever own a PS3 or PSP or Vita, you might have heard the thing call full game downloads, right? the PS3 has done this so called "disc less gaming" since what...Warhawk? that was launched in 2007! shall I say...welcome to digital age to you? you're 6 years late to the party though!

back then, a game purchased and can be downloaded to 5 different PS3s and can be used by unlimited number of accounts on those 5 PS3s all at the same time! the number of consoles have been reduced now to 2 plus 2 portables but still no restrictions on playing them at the same time like the Xbone is going to do!

"Sony will catch up to Xbox next gen and have disc less gaming and these same pigeons will say how great it is." - LOL!

I and many other PS3 owners have been doing disc less gaming since back then! I myself have Warhawk, SOCOM Confrontation, GoW Collections, Sly Collections, R&C Collections, Jak & Daxter Collection, MGS Collection, Borderlands, Sly 4, R&C Q4B, R&C QForce, PASBR, BFBC2 and some more I don't remember because it started WAAAY back then, not 2013 LOL!

moparful993981d ago

Its not about the advantages or lack thereof.. The issue is about it being forced everyone complies or you don't play. Just because you fall in the 1% of gamers that want a console like this doesn't mean it should be forced upon us.. We vote with our voices and dollars but you label us sony fanboys because we dont want a restrictive game experience for features that exist elsewhere with ZERO. restrictions.. I'm sick of Microsoft writing their own rules and then having to deal with loyalists such as yourself berate me for opposing their corporate greed driven restrictions!

NextGen24Gamer3981d ago

Disc Less as in Every single game on the system is Disc Less. Even when you buy a disc...you install it and never need it again. Never need to carry around your game library again...That's the future of gaming and Sony will eventually catch up. Sure Sony has games you can download and play without disc...But I'm talking about as a standard.

In order for it to be a standard you need DRM. It's not complicated.

Everyone who complains bout MS pushing new tech and features for the FUTURE of gaming...Don't jump in. Stick with your ps3, ps4, or xbox 360.

My dad made a lot of the same arguments you sony fans are making when companies made to push from Tape Recorders to CD. LOL..LOL...LOL...

Real talk...I understand you don't want to let go of the present and the past..I get it...But some of us are ready for the future. We shouldn't be held back because some still want to dinosaur game.

We can agree to disagree. But when the next next ps5 comes out and they follow what MS is doing now...It will be funny how you sony fans will respond.

Being revolutionary takes a company being bold and taking calculated risks....MS is fortunate to be a mega rich company so they can afford to be bold and revolutionary. Sony is in financial trouble so they played it safe with old policies and basically giving gamers the ps3 again but with better graphics.

Sony will be rewarded with better sales to help their struggling company.

Gamers who choose xbox one will be rewarded with true next gen console with next gen features that SONY doesn't offer as a standard!!!!

Kinnect 2.0
4k gaming
300,000 server Cloud Computing
Disc Less games (sharing with 10 people)
1080p Skype/TV/Movies/Games all switched in a SNAP!

Thank you Microsoft....Who cares if you don't sell the most, you are giving the most to hardcore next gen gamers!

Click the link and you will see that SONY ps4 doesn't do 4k gaming! LOL...

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

And the xbox one does support 4k gaming!!!!! Ultra HD...The future!!!!

http://bgr.com/2013/05/22/x...

dantesparda3981d ago

Wow! Elitegamer whatever the fvck, you've just gone full retard on our ass. You are one super deluded MS fanboy eh? I aint gonna spend anymore time on someone as deluded as you, that would make me stupid.

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justastranger103981d ago

You seem to be mad its a pro Xbox One article more than anything. Dealwithit

JitterbugTS3981d ago

Well what a shock - every comment I see posted by 'Yo Mama' is either a pro-Sony stance or a vehemently anti-MS one. Perhaps the corporate shill hat sits squarely on your head. Talkingship has been around for a long, long time. The site's never been a heavy videogame focused place, but more about having a good time and enjoying games, movies, music, or whatever. Perhaps before your next accusation about a site being a "generic, pro-microsoft" shill, you should take ten seconds to actually explore if your accusation holds any weight. Oh, why bother? Just continue wearing a corporation's name on your face and blare their marketing mantras all over the internet. It's one thing to fall in love with a corporation, but it's another thing (a sad, sad thing) to make it your life's goal to spew their marketing message every chance you get.

joefrost003981d ago

The funny thing about all of this is I bet all of you stay connected to your internet anyway
If not im pretty sure you have an cell phone that can do tethering

I have figured it out
Its not the being Connected the bothers you all its.just yall want the mindfuck of knowing you all have a choice
MS comes along and basically tells you its now required.to do something you.have been doing anyway
And people are like
No I want have no part of this it doesn't matter im always hooked to the internet what if I want to get off even though I haven't sense I had internet x amount of years ago
Or what if my connection drops. I dont care if it hasnt ever dropped for a whole day
Lol you people are classic

AceofStaves3981d ago

What's "classic" here is the assumption that everyone else has the same Internet functionality you do, or the same cellphone. Some of us have spotty Internet connections and also have to deal with data caps. I've gone through point where my 'Net was done for a couple of days. Not to mention other circumstances - people moving to new places to live, soldiers, etc.

And not everyone has a smartphone either. I don't, because I don't need my phone to surf the Web. I just need something to make calls on.

What if the positions were reversed, and Sony was the company with the mandatory DRM? Would you feel the same way?

irokster3981d ago

To hell with you man, my internet goes out EVERY DAMN NIGHT! I can't be dealing with a console that requires you to check in and authentication bullcrap. Trust me, I'm all for the future but most of OUR country isn't ready for it a far as internet strength and reliability is concerned.

pete0073981d ago

Bt you have the choice To go ps4. What makes you think msft wants To sell an Xbox To every human beeing? I have my One preordered and cant whait!!!

safsaan3981d ago

it could be MS, but all of it does seems like legit info.

FunkMacNasty3981d ago

I tried to read this objectively, but I still come away with a bad taste in my mouth over the X1..

Also the author says "Gamers have been begging for games to go discless for a long time now, but now that it’s here they can’t deal with the implications of it." Really? Never once in any gaming circle have i EVER heard someone say (or type) "gee I sure wish videogames were discless"

I'm sorry to say it, but this whole thing sounds like it was written by Microsoft PR. It even has the same cocky tone to it that Microsoft has adopted in the face of worldwide criticism over the X1.

irokster3981d ago

All I hear being said is people still want their physical product even though a bunch of people have adopted downloading new games.

tawilk343981d ago

i've had times where i've made perfect circle scratches on my discs and had to go back to gamestop for a replacement. i've also had them just get totally scratched up by various neglect. then there are the times you lend it to a friend and he really puts a number on it or sometimes losses it.

i don't think i've explicitly asked for a discless system, but it has some benefits that i can't argue with. it will also free up some much needed shelf space in my house.

BallsEye3981d ago

Yeah, like sony contracted all of you on n4g. Shush fanboy. If it would be article about how much it sucks, you'd praise it. Open your mind tool. It's good to have options and it's good to listen to opinions, but you fanboys got out of hand.

Cmk01213981d ago

Yeah way worse than article saying X1 isnt being sold at gamestop certain locations cause that makes ZERO sense. 1/3 of the company is boycotting??? or jimmy fallon saying X1 doesnt support used games, FALSE. its just the gaming world man, they do it for MS and against MS. they do it for Sony and against Sony. Gaming community is just that way

Cueil3981d ago

I got some tin foil hats for sale... I'll give you 50 percent off. The more logical truth is that some people just see things differently then N4G posters

kreate3981d ago

from the article..

'Go to shop. Buy disc. Insert disc in console. Game installs and links to your Xbox Live account. Throw disc away forever'

since the xbox needs to be connected,installed, and authenticated, what's the point of going to the store, mine as well just download it off the xbox live.

badkolo3981d ago

thats the point, you should just download it if you can, no need to wait to go buy it, travel, we are in the future. #jointhefuture

kreate3980d ago

i understand thats the points. so i agree with ur comment.

Mariusmssj3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

"So your Internet speed shouldn’t matter at all."

I thought it was clear that the lowest speed limit was 1.5Mbps

MazzingerZ3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

"Explained"....again ? I guess it's pretty clear that all those restrictions are not attractive to gamers so it doesn't matter how you put it...the only good explanation would be "Sorry, we taking away all that stuff so you'll get a X360 2 which is what you actually want"

By the way...never heard of this site...I guess as time goes it's becoming harder and harder to find sites that still have the guts to defend MSFTs policies with the X1

I wonder how things would look for MSFT after Gamescom...SONY still hasn't shown anything from Media Molecule and Naughty Dog..and we know they have somthing to show...they have for sure other stuff to show

At this point I can't guess what MSFT can show, their E3 (US) has always been stronger than their Gamescom(EU)...but who knows

I'm getting a PS4 regardless, I like the variation SONY delivers with their exclusive games and those little PSN gems can't either be missed

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NYC_Gamer3982d ago

"As Microsoft have put it over the last few days, if you don’t have an Internet connection then the Xbox One isn’t for you"

That's a lot of countries/rural areas that X1 isn't for then...

matgrowcott3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

It depends if those rural areas have literally no internet, in which case they'll basically be used to being left out. It's unlikely they'll get phone coverage either and they may even find getting post relatively difficult. If someone in that situation absolutely needs a next-gen console, they're going to end up with dozens of half-games and a system that does hardly anything advertised regardless of what they choose - be it current-gen, next-gen or PC.

If they do get dial-up or whatever, there's a pretty good chance they'll still be able to do the check-in (a couple of KBs will take less than a second on most dial-up connections). They'll just have to turn off every other feature, which is what they'll be doing on any system anyway.

matgrowcott3981d ago

What was the last single player game you played? I mean, strictly single player, absolutely no multiplayer component whatsoever? I'm thinking Dishonored on my part.

Do you think the trend towards adding social features and multiplayer modes - given what we know about next-generation and the features that both consoles brag - is going to subside? Rather, do you think developers are going to continue to presume most people have decent connections and will include features to blend single and multiplayer?

I mean, you have a point and I'm not going to specifically argue that point, but I'd say that those looking for purely single player games would be better off investing in a current-gen console or a last-gen console. Those investing in a PS4 without an internet connection will lose out on so much of what it's capable of, to the point where you're paying full price for a game you won't be able to fully access.

There's no argument that those investing in an Xbox One will be losing more however.

JeffGUNZ3981d ago

Honestly, do you real give a sh*t about a third world country having internet so they could play a gaming console they couldn't even afford? Give me a break.

MonChiChi3981d ago

Umm last I checked X1 is not workable at launch in a lot of countries, Japan being one of them. X1 only active in 21 countries. This is all from xbox official site. So I wouldn't say it's much third world countries because other countries are being left out.

JeffGUNZ3981d ago

First off, Japan? Really? Like MS controls so much of Japan...Come on, that's Sonys land. MS is hitting their target markets at launch, that's evident.

tawilk343981d ago

@MonChiChi

like the release of the PS3 and 360, they will roll out countries that work best with their capabilities and shipping channels. they will most certainly expand on this country list as they get closer to launch. they will even have countries in the queue for shortly after launch.

japan is a tough sell in terms of competition, but the XB1 will eventually be there as well.

Cmk01213981d ago

I honestly dont get why anyone would spend 500 to play this thing offline when 98% of perks are derived online gaming and other wise. I get people want food in the fridge even if they arent hungry, BUT dont hear a whole lot about the core things. Jump ship to ps4, no dedicated servers and faulty service. IE new update bricking consoles. I think MS acknolwdges they wont win asian or europe market and is somewhat fine destroying in the US. however their god awful marketing might end up with them losing US market as well. tough to say

JeffGUNZ3981d ago

I agree with your stance on MS is clearly targeting their biggest markets, but I still feel like they will do well in their big market countries all throughout Europe, like England for say. I feel as if MS isn't looking at the next 2-3 years, rather the entire generation.

green3982d ago (Edited 3982d ago )

"Here’s how the game buying process is going to work: Go to shop. Buy disc. Insert disc in console. Game installs and links to your Xbox Live account. Throw disc away forever."

I think this is a cool feature that Microsoft has implimented. The DRM is there to ensure you still own the game and you can share game with your friends.

But why can't Microsoft make it like this? Buy game, install it on xbox One. If system tries to connect to internet to authenticate disk and fails, it prompts user to insert game disk back into system for verification. No interenet also means no accessing of saves on the cloud and no game sharing.

This in my opinion will be ideal for people that do not have any interent access.

Yo Mama3982d ago (Edited 3982d ago )

They can't and won't do that because they need to be the one who verifys everything. If they leave it up to the system to check, with no online functionality, it would be way easier to hack/mod the system and stay offline and enjoy free games forever. They must control everything!!!

UNGR3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

Considering how big of a problem piracy, and hacking was on the 360 I don't blame them for wanting DRM. This particular method? Could have thought of something a little better. But piracy and hacking was rampant, try playing a game more than 2 years old, or any Call of Duty, or other big title 6 months after release. It'll be full of hacker guaranteed. Piracy is rampant on the 360, and PC due to the absolute ease of pirating the damn game. Sony didn't do DRM just because they don't need it, they didn't experience the piracy, and hacking on the scale of the 360, couldn't even hold a candle. The PS3 with it's architecture was fantastic hacker deterrent, and great cock block for video game piracy. Now that they have simplistic architecture they'll get to see it first hand. Granted the things will sell like candy covered cocaine so I doubt the sales on games being pirated would be effected much.

JokesOnYou3981d ago

Yo Mama I agree without the online check its a simple mod and you could play forever offline for free, or basicly with unlimited amount of friends who all could group up, buy 1 game then install the game on unlimited consoles. So of course they have to control it, not doing so would be financial suicide.

moparful993981d ago

@jokes so riddle me this genius how is it that it wasnt a problem for sony on the ps3? In fact sony has a higher software attach rate across the board. Just read an article how Sony sold over a million more software units over the course of this past fiscal year.. If DRM was so crucial to the survival of the industry then why is it that Microsoft is the only company implementing? One word. Control.

Death3981d ago

Hit me a link for the software attach rates. Is this platform specific or does it cover PS2 and PSP/Vita games? Does it accoount for downloads too? Would love the info. Thanks.

ExCest3981d ago

@moparful99

Answer: the Jtag. Has anyone thought of that as a reason that there's DRM? People may use steam as an example of "good" DRM with offline functionality but their DRM isn't the most effective there is. It's beyond easy to pirate a steam game.

There's no need to be a captain of conspiracy.

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Kingthrash3603981d ago

PR rampage.....no saving this....especially when it looks as tho even the vp doesn't jnow wtf he's talking about.

Unicron3981d ago

How many times do they need to "explain" it now?

FunAndGun3981d ago

Until it puts you under a hypnotic trance....

DRM is good, DRM is good, DRM is good......

say it enough and it will become your reality.

thebudgetgamer3981d ago (Edited 3981d ago )

Nanananana leader.

ziggurcat3981d ago

"How many times do they need to "explain" it now?"

repeat something often enough...

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 8h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos22h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb3321h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC12h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 13h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 1h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear2120h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 17h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 16h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC12h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon6158621h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k416h ago(Edited 16h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k416h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 16h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 6h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage23h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 16h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 15h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 7h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn197920h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage23h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 22h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin2d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 22h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 8h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 22h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 8h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1d 3h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii2d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno2d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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