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Microsoft defends Xbox One $500 price point--"We're over-delivering value"

Microsoft's Xbox boss Don Mattrick has spoken out to defend the Xbox One's $500 price point, saying the company is in fact over-delivering value with the next-generation system.

"It's a lower number than some of the analysts had forecasted," Mattrick said on Bloomberg TV. "We're over-delivering value against other choices I think consumers can get. Any modern product these days you look at it [and] $499 isn't a ridiculous price point. We're delivering thousands of dollars of value to people, so I think they're going to love it when they use it."

Competitor Sony will offer its PlayStation 4 at $400 this holiday season, but Mattrick believes consumers will choose Xbox One for its suite of exclusive services and applications like an improved Xbox Live, as well as Skype, Twitch TV, SmartGlass, and Kinect.

"We're really making the living room your center of fun for your family," Mattrick said.

Every Xbox One will include a Kinect 2.0 sensor, while PS4 gamers will need to pay $60 to purchase a PlayStation Eye camera.

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Mr_Nuts3966d ago

God how arrogant, they make Sony in 2006 look normal.

Convas3966d ago

Nope. MS says stick with a 360 if you've got no internet, Sony said I'd need two jobs.

Sorry, both are equally arrogant and inconsiderate and Sony did not, does not, nor ever will sound NORMAL in regards to those comments they made at the start of this generation.

Mr_Nuts3966d ago

But was it worth it...in the end

People laughed and criticized blu ray...and I'm glad they put it in because we got games like Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Last of Us etc. Even at the time blu ray players were really expensive so looking back I don't mind paying that much.

That whole "stick with a 360 line" among other things MS have said are just dickish in my opinion. I mean Sony said the whole get two jobs thing but MS's mouth has just not stopped blabbing and insulting their core fanbase so you know, looking back Sony then looked like saints compared to the MS as of now.

dedicatedtogamers3966d ago

"Sony said I'd need two jobs. "

Actually, no. They said you'd want the system so bad that you would be willing to work more hours. Still a jerk thing to say, but nothing compared to what Microsoft has been saying.

insomnium23966d ago

@dedicated

Thank you for the correction. It's unbelievable how people have spun the things Sony said back then. Imo the weren't even that arrogant. Just your typical PR talk.

Kutaragi with his Karate master talk was in the same class as this "stick with the x360". The difference however is and was that Sony targeted MS with their talk, MS targets their fanbase. Imo it's atleast 1000 times worse o talk down on your fanbase than it is to do it to your competitor but what do I know, that's just me. I've been called a fanboy for this many many times.

PS-Analog3966d ago

I think Mr Nuts is also refering to other statements like "The console is worth thousands", The submarine quote and the internet quote wasn't put like that it was more like "We have a device that works offline, its called a 360". That just a snidey remark.

Dee_913965d ago

That box design is pretty epic.

Ritsujun3965d ago

Awww... stop crying, Don Patrick.

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_QQ_3966d ago

What they are offering actually is a good deal on paper,considering kinect 2.0.The problem is nobody wants kinect, it should be a side option.

NewZealander3965d ago

i think the price is great, i expected both consoles to cost far more, in fact here in new zealand i can buy BOTH consoles for the same price that the ps3 was at launch!

both companies can be incredibly arrogant, but at the same time words tend to get misconstrued on the internet, people tend to fly off the handle over comments that probably arnt meant with the level of malice that people take from them.

MWong3965d ago

I don't think anybody can misconstrued, "if you don't have an internet connection, we have a device for you it's called 360."

I cannot believe that every game on the XBone will be multiplayer. So why would I need an online connection with a single player game. Or why the hell do I need to pay $500 for a console and then check in at least once a day, like I'm on parole.

That's my biggest annoyance with M$ this generation.

NewZealander3965d ago

i agree and understand why people have issues with the always online thing, but at the end of the day its just a console, and im not going to let that ruin my experience when it comes to playing games.

yes i think microsoft should change it, although i own both current consoles and prefer xbox i am not a fanboy, and despite my preference i have done all i can to help the cause on www.xboxshun.com and twitter etc, i do believe the gamers should stand up for what they believe in.

but ill still be getting both consoles regardless, both will have great features and exclusives, and like i said the price isnt that bad, people pay more for a smart phone! the ps4 here is half the price the ps3 was at launch! ps3 costed $1200.00 ps4 costs $649.00 XBOX1 is $740.00, the same price the 360 was at launch.
we in new zealand pay higher prices then most of the world, yet these prices are still great.

if people want microsoft to listen this isnt the place to do it, spam major nelson on his blog or twitter, sign up on xboxshun, facebook or whatever, theres plenty of places to protest.

Picnic3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

It's got Kinect - which, like Sony's Move and Eye camera would normally cost money - and Skype.

Those alone make the price very competitive compared to the PS4.

Although the launch all about television was a bit ludicrous to me. What is this- the 1950s?

But, in the long run, just about the only main reasons to think that the PS4 is so much better is if you happen to prefer their exclusives and controller. Or if you think that Playstation Plus has and will offer better value.

It's easy to see any console nowadays that 'only does everything' as an arrogant gesture but I think that people are going way overboard. It's really that used games policy that put many people's backs up but that's of no concern to me when I decide whether the XboxOne or the PS4 is offering the best games and control systems to play those games.

If Microsoft throw in some interesting new franchise in to the works, I'm not going to be grudging about the XboxOne just because I owned a PS3 this time. I might want to play that new franchise.

MadMen3965d ago

LOL you could never make SONY in 2006 look normal, EVER.

But this load of BS from MS is lame. They forget not everyone wants the cam.

alb18993965d ago

Considering that 8 year ago the 360 launch was 399 a ps3 599, I'm impress that the X1 is 499 and more impress that SONY is 399.
What I think is that SONY had advantage because they new the price of the X1 and saw the games that Microsoft offer so they new that they have to put the price down.
The price is good for both!

Do you think that Microsoft will put the same price if they new?
If Microsoft new then the story could have been the opposite.

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Mikelarry3966d ago

they do love to throw that word around value. how can it be value when you are forcing users how are not interested in parts of the console and and being forced to pay and call it value

vitullo313966d ago (Edited 3966d ago )

Thousands of dollars of value LOL hilarious

Heartnet3966d ago

Forced? no1 is forcing u yo buy the console lol

Like saying i dont want the DS4 but sony is forcing me to buy it jeez why cant they just knock of the 54£ ffs...

WalterWJR3966d ago (Edited 3966d ago )

Well considering a lot of people who would like xbox one without kinect, to them it is forced.

Mikelarry3966d ago

Kinect is a forced add on you know it and i know it so stop acting like it is not.

jmc88883966d ago

That is absolute crap.

You're comparing to a NSA spying device in Kinect to an actual controller.

Why don't you sell your car and buy some old fashioned roller SKATES.

rainslacker3965d ago

They aren't even calling it added value. That's what supplemental features on a game console are...added value. They really are not focusing on games for this.

PS3 was a game console first. The added value(although arguable) was that they were offering the best blu-ray player on the market, for roughly half the price of other blu-ray players on the market. It also offered several media features which were in their infancy for the TV at the time(such as streaming from PC).

All this added value in X1 isn't being asked for. It's already available in abundance through much cheaper options. It may be convenient, but it's like throwing a bunch of attachments onto a vacuum cleaner. Basically all a vacuum cleaner has to do is suck up dirt from the floor, those attachments ability to perform it's intended task is dodgy at best.

alb18993965d ago

Is the same with every product you buy this days, tvs, phones, tablets, cameras.....I mean every product has features that you don't want but you have to pay for them.

Picnic3965d ago

Because if you're not interested in the Kinect 2.0 part of the console then you're not... actually all that interested in the console in the first place.

If you're not someone who likes a bit of colourful fun from time to time in your games then you'll probably be growling at the XboxOne with your state of the art PC and ultra serious games in any case.

So it makes perfect sense for Microsoft to make the Kinect 2.0 a required part of the console as a selling point over the PS4.

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swansong3966d ago

MS pr protocol, Put foot in mouth.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 3h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle13h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188111h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio10h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning776h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga13h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218312h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga11h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan7h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit11m ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus236h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv726h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10116h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos15h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-5h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac15h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10114h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic12h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead5h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 23h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 21h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 18h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 11h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 13h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 9h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 21h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 7h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 6h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger3h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 22h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 22h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 19h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 21h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 21h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10113d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218312d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos12d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai13d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197213d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218312d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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