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Microsoft: PS4 won't make us 'change anything we've done with Xbox One'

Microsoft said recently that despite Sony's PS4 having a strong showing at E3 that they don't plan to 'change anything' with the Xbox One because of it.

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Godmars2903984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

If neither Sony nor the complaints wont change MS's mind, then its going to be up to sales past launch.

Likely going to be too late by then. If they're wrong anyway.

zeal0us3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

Even if the X1 sales performance turns out poorly, even then MS won't change the policies in place. More than likely they would say "Once the X1 is available in more countries the unit sales will increase." Or they will blame it on something else.

Microsoft won't blame the restrictions or requirement, just look at their response to the backlash and media.

JokesOnYou3984d ago Show
thehitman3984d ago

Unil all your friends get a ps4 @ jokes.

Sitdown3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

This is the x1

www.comcast.com/mx1/?SCRedire ct=true

gtarhro73984d ago

Oh man Jokes, you so silly.

Silly Mammo3984d ago

@ jokes- I'm seriously getting dizzy with all your spin.

voodoopickle3984d ago

JokesOnYou, ive been sharing PS3 games with my friends for as long as its been around. that's not a new concept... at all

dedicatedtogamers3984d ago

Post-2006, Sony was very willing and very eager to change the policies for the PS3 in an attempt to match the 360 and to please its fans.

Microsoft is pure arrogance if they are unwilling to adjust.

NewMonday3984d ago

@JokesOnYou

it sounds like your trying to convince yourself not others

you used to make good points but now your just turning into another Greenpowrz

CerebralAssassin3984d ago

Why do people get crucified for liking the xbone? No matter which console you get there will be pros and cons. The xbone can cause problems for some but I dont think it will affect as many people as the media and n4g community let on. Personally none of these problems really effect me in my everyday life. Which is why im getting an xbone instead of ps4. That and I just cant deal with a dualshock controller. Let the hate begin!!

FITgamer3984d ago

@JOY You could of saved some time by just saying "F&<k my rights!"

Hydrolex3984d ago

NICE ! better for Sony

lol

Darrius Cole3984d ago

Actually, what they will probably do if the sales are poor is to kill the Xbone, if the sales don't pick up for any length of time.

SilentNegotiator3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

"I like xbox live vs psn because of the friends I've built"

...wouldn't new systems imply a resetting of who has what brand of console (unless they eat up whatever one brand gives them)?

"Most of all I like the X1 games and what micro is trying to do vs ps4= go digital"

Xbox fanboys sure have been trying to convince themselves that Microsoft is "going digital". That delusion has been going on ever since Ps3 had Blu-ray. If Xbox One is "going digital", then why do they still have hard copies (and will likely sell more physical than digital again with games offering both, like this gen, with absolutely nothing suggesting otherwise)?

It's funny, I saw posts from you where you took a step back and basically said "wow, Microsoft is being ridiculous" and now you're right back to your trolling and convincing yourself. I thought I had underestimated you, but obviously I only underestimated your capacity for delusion.

Derpy3984d ago

The thing that I find most insulting is that M$ is basically saying that all consumers are criminals that need to be checked on every 24 hours. I see no reason to pay some company to treat me like I'm under house arrest.

@CerebralAssassin, to answer your question, when a gamer knowingly supports something that encourages loss of our rights as a consumer and a gamer, they're really no better than a scab and that gets people angry. They have the freedom to do so, but don't expect to get patted on the back for it.

M$ are not the police and they have no business acting like it. I'm going to exercise my consumer rights by saying no to their degrading product.

fr0sty3984d ago

@Jokes, Sony has been going digital for years. Full PS3 games have been on PSN for a while now. PSN games are plentiful. Imposing DRM does not equal "going digital". That's just Microsoft's bullshit spin they've put on their terrible policies.

ltachiUchiha3984d ago

JokesOnYou

I can understand that some of u like u & greenpowerz will choose xbox one over anything & thats your choice, but how do u know every friend u made friends with on xbl will feel the same? My older brother is a die hard xbox fan too but i told him everything he didnt know & he has made up his mind to buy a ps4 but is hoping that because of bad sales the xbox one will have & trust me it will be bad, that microsoft has a change of heart & dismisses the restrictions. I am fed up with them & wont be buying one & hope it fails miserably just so microsoft understands not to f**k with consumers because we can easily turn around & do the same to them. Might not hurt them but trust me, it will make them rethink about ever trying to force restrictions on us ever again.

NukaCola3984d ago

Joke said instead of a getting a high powered, less expensive, unrestricted platform dedicated first to games and the game community...he'd rather have an extremely priced, low performance cable box with endless restrictions and a big FU to the gamers. Can we mark this as trolling now?

If you wanted something unique that'd make sense but X1's differences are like comparing living in a villa on the French Riviera vs living in an apartment in North Korea just because you're friends support a prison minded dictatorship with their console.

Can't wait to see how many Xboxers realize what MS is doing and come back home to PS. You can see it in the media fan boys how hard they are justifying the X1 but at tyr end of the day you all know deep down inside that MS is 150% doing the wrong thing.

DOMination-3984d ago

To share games on the ps3 you have to install your profile on another console and you can only do that once. The X1 allows up to ten shares which you enabke from your friends list (you don't have to put your account on their console) so I will defend that one issue as its genuinely an exciting feature potentially.

Its increasingly harder to defend the other things though. Sony are really offering a more viable alternative at a cheaper price. Its difficult to argue with the facts

Angrymorgan3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

@joke
I may be wrong but on ps4 you can get a friend to take over your game instantly over psn so yea you can share games with friends over the net....sorta

I also like the look of x1 games.even the tv functionality but in my opinion the cons soooo outweigh the pros that it's just not cost effective to get one.
Id be poring mony down the pan.
Also im not one of those people who like a bookcase full of old games I never play so not being able to trade or give games away easily is a massive no no for me

kupomogli3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

@DOmination

You can have your account on more than two consoles. It just can't be activated to play games on more than two consoles any longer.

It's simple to get a friend to deactivate your account on his PS3 if you want another friend to activate an account and play a game with you. As long as you have friends you can trust.

nunley333984d ago

@JokesOnYou - The PS4 will have a low power state for being always updating and has an app that will work identical to smartglass plus vita for 2nd screen activities. PS4 will be download game updates, DLC store purchases, and full retail games in the background while your playing a game, I haven't heard that XB1 can do this. I wish microsoft good luck (sarcasm) because xb1 willstruggle to outsell the gamecube.

MasterOfThe12Blades3984d ago

@DOM
If i want to share games with my friends i just hand them the disc!

loulou3984d ago

well, i have an xbox one on pre-order also. because of the controller and live, like this gen, it will be my main console.

ps4 like the ps3 this gen will be just for the exclusives.

disagree away.

on topic, if m$ dont change things in the next 5 months, then they will be slaughtered over the holidays.... surely just looking at the pre-orders they must know this

Ares84HU3984d ago

Good MS, keep digging that grave deeper! Clearly you are out of touch with what people actually want.

D-riders3984d ago

jokes on you, so your saying that all your friends on xbox360 are getting an Xbox one.Over the ps4, its a new gen. Then always on doesn't mean always updating, the ps3 does auto updates now. Every device should be the same way by now not sure if the 360 does that. But the PS4 does its a learning system. which means it updates all the time. Kinect being forced is not good thing. its just a gimmick to the system. what if the ps4 has kinect abilities, doesn't that make the system less attractive.

Also just so you know MS did the same thing with exclusives with the 360 and we see how that turned out.

maniacmayhem3984d ago

JokesOnYou got marked again for trolling?

Am I missing something here? All he is doing is explaining why he likes the Xbox 1.

Has this site really dissolved into this?

BattleAxe3984d ago

Microsoft:

"We're going down with the ship, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it"

SilentNegotiator3984d ago

@Maniac
Oh please. All JOY does is troll.

"X1 always on= always updating"

Come on now...

starchild3983d ago

How ridiculous. I'm a PC gamer that Is only buying a PS4 and VASTLY prefer the PS4 over the Xbox One, but the fact that JokesOnYou guy got marked for trolling just goes to show how pathetic this site has become. He wasn't trolling at all. He has a right to his preference just the same as any of you. Sony is awesome in gaming and the Ps3 and PS4 are outstanding consoles, but their fan base stinks.

Rockstar3983d ago

"I like X1 always on= always updating"

My PS3 does this....it's called PS+

Ritsujun3983d ago

starchild think she came from the stars.

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zebramocha3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

Of course they won't change because this happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/...

killbillvolume123984d ago

bahahah Can i just say i never seen that youtube link before but i lost my shit.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II3984d ago

Can we report jokesonyou for SPAM? This is getting ridiculous

slpknt6sic63984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

Microsoft is down, call an ambulance. Wii u wii u wii u. Lol
Sony killed sega and Microsoft is next.

Patrick3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

I love how they are trying so hard to use misdirection as their weapon of choice to try and draw us off all the crap they are trying.
"We’re very happy,… did you see the games on stage during our briefing? Did you see the exclusives?"

Its like, No... dont look over there at all the control and power we are trying to abuse... Look over here at the games and exclusives we bought. Stop looking over there.. look right here... hey .. look look .. games.
Its pathetic, and I wont support them.

Greatness awaits and U R NOT (red)E

Sitdown3984d ago

Ummmmmmm, that's not misdirection......that's called shifting the focus. The backlash is because we know their policies....in your scenario, they are simply shifting the attention to games. But here is the reality....Microsoft has not said much, it's the constant barrage from media that has you thinking misdirection.

Hicken3984d ago

@Sitdown: Shifting the focus= misdirection.

No, really.

LackTrue4K3984d ago

xbox is hoping successes on the the shamily plan!

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AndrewLB3984d ago

Not really. It's pretty well established that Playstation owners are far more fanatical which greatly contributes to the high pre-order PS4 sales and how it's not uncommon on release day for playstation fanboys to lose all sense of rational thought to spend $1500 for one of the first released consoles or one needs to look no further than this thread and some of the fanboy-love going on.

TheTwelve3984d ago

I don't want anything to change their mind. I want Microsoft to be stubborn. I want a generation of two different arguments represented in consoles. And I hope everyone sees how the argument will turn out.

In other words --- this is great stuff!

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iceman063984d ago

Truest thing said on this topic. PLEASE, allow MS to remain stubborn so that this "idea" of restricting games gets put off for as long as possible. We've seen the "votes" on the forums, but when it's time for wallets to come out...that's when the argument will truly be settled.

LackTrue4K3984d ago

yes they will, just dont buy an xboxOne....
gamers just need to hold out.
this will send a clear a55 message to them!

brave27heart3984d ago

If XB1 sales come in under expectation and MS is made aware its because of theur restrictiins it will put others, namely Sony and Nintendo off doing similar in the future.

Let them stick to their policies. I know there are people who want to buy an XB1 but I would urge you all...wait. Delay a year or so, you dont have to buy a PS4 as an alternative if you dont want, but by sacrificing your time to make a stance you can be sure MS gets the message that their consumers are more important and powerful than they seem to realise.

For the record I love the PS4, but paying for plus to play online goes against my values, so I will buy a PS4 at launch but I wont be renewing my Plus membership, as my way of taking a stance, so I do know how hard it is to make sacrifices to make a statement.

voodoopickle3984d ago

sorry Godmars, I accidentally hit disagree. I fully agree with you on this one.

Nafon3984d ago

I hate that! I do that all the time. Why can't we change our vote? and add the ability to infinitely reply, but collapse the 3rd tier of replies by default.

Bhuahahaha3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

jokes is a member of the chinese 50cents army

1 positive post = 50cents

Trekster_Gamer3984d ago

One thing has changed for sure I pre ordered a ps4 not the Xbox One...

Sony changed my mind!

killacal133984d ago

Microsoft's entire business model is flawed, the one is a flawed product, in my opinion at least. Sony and Nintendo in my eyes are the best options this generation, I can't wait for Sony to announce the rest of the exclusives, it can only get better for PS4 gamers, there is no way we can make xbox one blind fans understand that any company that does what Microsoft is doing does not deserve our gamer loyalty. I will pay for the console that respects my rights and provides the best gaming experience. PS4 and Wii U.

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b_one3984d ago

Games are bait, and it works...

DevilishSix3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

It is not in Microoft's culture to change these restrictions. They are a company that does business like a juggernaut. They go into a new business sector and use money to bully companies and people around. They did this to Apple and Lotus in the early days of windows. They did this to Netscape during the early days of intenet browers. Now they are muscling the gaming industry.

It is up to us consumer to say no with our wallets and get them the hell out of this industry. Lets make the Xbox One a failure like Zune.

Eddie201013984d ago

The response to the question sounded very arrogant to me.

Cueil3984d ago

after a few of these guys get fired for Footinmouth syndrome I'm thinking things will change a bit... but not because of Sony... because of consumers

dale_denton3983d ago

JOY wouldn't know anything about sony's share game system or the fact that the psn store does have digital downloads available already as well.. clearly he does not own a ps3.

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DigitalRaptor3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

I wish for the good of the industry and consumers and Xbox fans that Microsoft would drop the disgraceful restrictions.

But, hey at least now everyone can see (without any shadow of a doubt that might have existed) how controlling, greedy, anti-consumer, slimy, money-grubbing and downright disgusting Microsoft are as company. I mean, as if it wasn't already obvious enough.

I always knew it was a bad idea to support them. If you think about it, it was at least the contribution of those who paid for Xbox Live for all these years (the P2P connectivity and the free apps) that set he wheels in motion here. Glad I wasn't a part of the testing grounds.

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DxTrixterz3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

We’re also confident that gamers are going to love our vision of the future and what we’re going to offer for gaming

Is Major Nelson still sleeping or is he just ignorant. Gamer's love the vision of the future? What the hell. I dont think he was using internet this week. Pretty much everybody is bashing X1 for what they doing to it and he still says we gonna love it? I just don't know what to say anymore. Just somebody give me date and place of X1 funeral.

LOGICWINS3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

"Pretty much everybody is bashing X1 for what they doing to it and he still says we gonna love it?"

Well, what is he going to say? That we're going to hate it? Never get into sales/marketing.

Major Nelson isn't an idiot. He knows Sony stomped MS at E3. What he means is that the One will do well regardless since mainstream consumers won't know about the restrictions until they actually hook it up. And even then, most of them won't care.

The One will be successful. Will the PS4 do better worldwide? Yes. But the One will still sell.

Mikelarry3984d ago

So you are saying they are banking the success of their console on the ignorance of consumers. Yuup I have heard it all

Godmars2903984d ago

Most of those people either aren't going to have internet or the proper cable box. They wont be able to do anything with the system, then not be happy about it if they find out how to fix it.

Then again MS could just offer package deals through cable/internet providers, but if they don't things will only get ugly for them.

DragonKnight3984d ago

He doesn't have to say that anyone is going to hate it, what he should do is not comment on it at all. He just makes himself look foolish by trying to make the claim that anyone but publishers are going to love what X1 is doing.

LOGICWINS3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

@Mikelarry- Yes

@DragonKnight- A PR spokesperson that DOESN'T promote? LMAO

@Godmars290- If these people don't have Internet in their homes, then obviously the chances of them knowing about all these restrictions are slim. If they aren't happy with it, thats their problem. If your making a $500 investment, you should know what your getting into.

thehitman3984d ago

@ Logic problem w/ that philosophy is that main stream consumers follow the bandwagon of the hardcore consumers. If the hardcore consumers go 1 way then the mainstream will ultimately follow because they just want to fit in and not care about anything else. If all your friends who adopt a next-gen console early get a ps4 what you going to buy a ps4 to play with them. MS is going to lose out of early adoption they had this gen with their year start and them shooting themselves in the foot with these bad policies and a $100 dollar higher price tag keeps putting more nails in the coffin.

DragonKnight3984d ago

@LOGICWINS: God your name is so ironic it's painful. A PR person can choose what aspects they wish to promote. There is that term so many have used in the industry "we don't comment on..." and leave it at that. Please, try to actually use logic.

Godmars2903984d ago

@LOGICWINS:

Thing is pretty sure people bought the PS3 when it first came out at $600 with no clue that it was also a BR player.

People do not know better.

juandren3984d ago

@LOGICWINS - I completely agree with you. MS has all but said that they are banking on the ignorance of the mainstream consumer. And obviously Major Nalson is going to say good stuff - it's his damn job.

Sony will certainly sell more consoles than Microsoft, but I can guarantee you Microsoft will make more money. Sony knows how to make something incredible, Microsoft knows how to make money. Prepare to get milked to sh*t, Xbox fans

juandren3984d ago

@thehitman: You are forgetting one thing. There are those that consider Gamerpoints life achievements. The same guys that normally perform "boosting" in MP games and buy every single gun camo and stream every single crappy game on YouTube. They will stick with the Xbox just to keep that false sense of achievement. Microsoft is banking on these guys, above all else.

That said, I weep for the future of gaming

OSIRUSSS3983d ago

Lawlz MS knows how to make money? Sony is making money off of every Blu Ray game sold on the XBONE! That's how you make money!

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a_bro3984d ago

there there... he's only doing his job as a mouth piece for the company, its not his fault these policies are in effect

juandren3984d ago

I respect and pity him and a lot of peoole working at MS. I'll bet you anything if they could get a job at Sony with similar pay, they would take it. Nobody likes being hated, but unfortunately money makes the world go round and in this economy a job like that is something to be thankful for. Remember these guys are the puppets of their investors, but in the end they have to keep food on the table for their families.

whoyouwit043984d ago

Good, they don't need to change a thing. Gamers need to open their eyes and stop being afraid of the whats different. What flaw is their in their policy other then a 24 hour check in. which isn't a flaw in my eyes.

Mikelarry3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

You can't upgrade your hard drive if it corrupts you are screwed.

If you don't pay your internet bill guess what no games for you

Edit: ok you can upgrade by attaching another pheriperal to the one yet another inconvenience to the ever growing list

whoyouwit043984d ago

Wrong you can't upgrade the internal hard drive but you can upgrade via a USB external hard drive.
as for internet most people have internet threw DSL/Cable, and a separate service on your cell phone. If you are a adult you will always have either one of the 2 payed.

thehitman3984d ago

@ why

About half of 360 owners have XBL subscription. Which means half of them wont be able to even play games. Gamers need to open their eyes? The only people who will be suffering is MS not gamers when they all buy playstations.

PSVita3984d ago

It makes no sense to not be able to play single player with checking in. Then on top of that your being Forced to install every single game you own.

whoyouwit043984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

That's true if you think about how we game today, but we need to wait and to see what benefits this truly brings before we say it makes no since. Like I said people need to stop fearing the future and what they don't understand. when you look at what Microsoft is doing the the only thing that really is different is a 24 hour check in. you can still trade in your console and games. but look at the better things that always being connected and digital gaming brings, the ability to share 1 copy of a game with 9 people any where in the country, a more powerful console threw the cloud, and no longer having to worry about scratch discs. I really don't understand why people are throwing a fit over what Microsoft is doing. You know, it's funny how people often fear what they don't understand, and what the don't understand they often seek to destroy. because kill Microsoft's Xbox One is almost all I have being seeing the last couple of days.

ShwankyShpanky3984d ago

What you don't get is that people aren't "fearing what they don't understand," they're disliking what they do understand.

You are the one clearly lacking in "understanding." You don't 'understand' that there are conditions outside of "not paying for internet" that result in lack of connectivity, such as ISP problems, natural forces, vacations, military service, etc. I could go on and on about the other areas that in which you obviously lack understanding if you think the 24-hour check-in is the only "flaw" in their policy, but it becomes tedious.

To close, I would recommend you learn the difference between "threw" and "through" before you try lecturing people on what they do or do not "understand."

jmc88883984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

Kinect 2 spying, which they admitted.

They said they would comply with any court order, which includes the unconstitutional (meaning it doesn't follow the rules of the constitution) kangaroo court known as FISA. They even have other things like a 'letter of national security'.

But they don't even need to comply in order for them to get that info, since much of what they get from companies is by unofficially tapping into the lines anyways.

Oh yeah and all the data they get, then gets passed around thousands of companies, of which no doubt quite a few criminals get their hands on it.

I mean Microsoft has given the gov't backdoors since Windows 95, and just today admitted giving access with their web crap.

Also you shouldn't say 'besides' when it comes to the console kill switch they added in case their internet connection tester doesn't work. I mean did Detroit build in a kill switch for your car if you didn't turn on your GPS? Completely unnecessary. No benefit whatsoever.

They say trust us...why? They've been selling you down the river for decades.

It's not being 'afraid of whats different'. That is so hilariously idiotic it's insane.

Technology first adopters are anything but 'afraid of whats different'. What they are concerned about, rightfully so, are unnecessary crap that destroys the product and adds nothing.

Perhaps if the gov't wasn't recording basically everything...text...skype..ema il..web usage and bandwidth..telephone..etc, etc....and MS hadn't been selling us down the river multiple ways for decades there wouldn't be a reason to be concerned. But that's not where we live.

We live in a world where we are told to fear Al-Qeada, a US/Saudi/British creation, and when the Saudi's and Brits used that against us, known as 9/11, we then went to war in two countries where the people that did it weren't at, and almost every planner and funder is still free, which is important, because...we're funding, arming, training Al-Qeada to fight in Syria, and they have chemical weapons we allowed them to get.

None of this is about terrorism, it's about control.

That's why they take our freedoms away. It isn't Al-Qeada.

But they'll sure use that excuse to spy on you and exploit you with that info.

Yep well who cares, when the derivatives implode next, they'll just take your deposits...like in Spain and Cyprus. It's been law here for years. Becoming law all around Europe and Japan just adopted it.

Finally since you are so sure your internet will never be down, you do realize that your internet can be fine and yet if Microsoft's is down, you're screwed too.

If what happened to the PS3 via the PSN happened to Xbone, then you wouldn't be able to use your console for over a month. A complete brick. Why?

Not because the system can't play the games, but because Microsoft has a kill switch on your console, and if your console can't communicate with their servers, it's worthless.

You act as if there is going to be a single benefit to what they did, and to 'wait'. There is no benefit that comes with check-ins and spying. They are check ins and spying. That doesn't make your game or console a lick better.

ShwankyShpanky3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

One of the things that's really pathetic is that the CURRENT EULA for the 360/Kinect ADMITS that they spy, and yet for some reason we actually have to "debate" whether or not it's going to happen.

The current XBL EULA includes the following. Keep in mind that the term "Services" will cover a much broader spectrum with the One.

"If you use ... Kinect, we may also collect data about the way in which you interact with the console and the Services to improve Microsoft products and services."

...and this:

"Personal information collected by Microsoft may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country or region in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries, or service providers maintain facilities. You consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country or region."

...and of course:

"we may access or disclose information about you, including the content of your communications, in order to: (a) comply with the law or respond to lawful requests or legal process; (b) protect the rights or property of Microsoft or our customers, including the enforcement of our agreements or policies governing your use of the Services; and (c) act on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public."

All of these terms subject to the interpretation of MS/govt lawyers. And with the "always on," this can be easily abused. "Oh, we thought you might be doing something against our EULA, so we checked to see if there was any audio or video from the Kinect that was related to that." "Oh, the Feds saw you buying supplies for your indoor veggie garden at the hydroponics store, so they 'lawfully requested' that we check if there was any audio or video related to that."

P.S.
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Salooh3984d ago

Bubble for acknowledging the truth. These restrictions are not only against gamers. MS obviously will lose a lot of customers . So yes , i think it's definitely connected to politics reasons to make a stunt like that .

On what you guys call it politics :P
It's great to see people who understand the reality . You see people call arabs terrorists but when you come here you will see them victims. Al qaeda are not muslims and they are not sunni, they are just taking islam as the cover of their book . ISLAM is peaceful , we only fight when we are being attacked. Governments/Rulers are united in some way for main reasons. Spying is one of them . They can spy on you from your phone so what will stop them from taking advantage of kinect. That's why i would never go and buy X1 , None of real muslims would do that. Government already did planted cameras on one of protesters and threat him, think how easy will it be to use the kinect ?. They don't even need to hack it lol

Skynetone3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

whoyouwit04

you can make ten accounts on the Xbox one, {only one master account} all your friends can make an account and play the game on your console, {that's of course they don't lock the game to one account} if they log into that account from a different Xbox one they can play that game for one hour

if you thing you can buy forza and share it with ten of your mates you should really lay off the drugs

the mystery is, can you still play forza while your mate is logged into that account, another mystery is how many times can your mate play for an hour, before they make you buy the game

killacal133984d ago

Why must you blindly follow ?????????

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 6h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos20h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb3320h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC10h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 12h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear2118h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 15h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 14h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC10h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon6158619h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k414h ago(Edited 14h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k414h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 15h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 4h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage22h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 14h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 13h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 5h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn197919h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage22h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 21h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin2d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 21h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 6h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 21h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 7h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1d 1h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii2d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno2d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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