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I don’t think Microsoft can get away with the $499 price tag

CarlosX360 Writes: "Microsoft unveiled the Xbox One with an 'OMG, Go Home, Xbox' price at $499. I think Microsoft has it all wrong, and I believe that Microsoft can't get away with the price that they've set for Xbox One, like Sony's PlayStation 3 did."

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FrigidDARKNESS3989d ago

At 499.00 you get Microsoft is offering more. An improvrd Kinect sensor Windows 8 Kernel a web brwser and DVR. ...that is one hell of a package.

CarlosX3603989d ago

But, but, my cable company provides me with a DVR!

FrigidDARKNESS3989d ago

Well it your whole home entertainment improves when you plug in the xb1 into your cable box. You will never hav to pick up a tv remote again and worry about batteries and pets cheeing on it.

kneon3989d ago

My cable box already has a fancy onscreen guide that is also accessible from a tablet. I can also change channels from the tablets and stream TV to tablets and PCs.

I seem to already be getting a much better TV experience than what Microsoft is trying to pawn off on people. And cable boxes will just continue to add even more features in the future.

xHeavYx3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

I can imagine those 12 year olds COD fanboys getting upset when their mother yells "Xbox off" when it's past bedtime.
BTW, how lazy do you have to be not to pick up the TV remote? You'll still be picking up the Xbox controller to play, won't you?

irepbtown3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

I have Virgin Media... TV/Movies is sorted.
There are 3 laptops, one computer and a Tablet in the house... Web browsing sorted.
Heck, I even have LoveFilm for watching movies through PS3/Tablet/Laptops/Computer!!!

Why do I need to pay £429.99 for something I already have?

I'm getting a PS4 for Gaming.

PS: I save £80 for getting PS4 instead of X1, I can get a plane ticket for that price.

Boody-Bandit3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

Plus my Samsung LED display has a motion camera built into it. So why would I need XBOX ONE other than for gaming?

MS is way late to the party with this type of all in one device. All of the things MS is implementing with the XBOX ONE is already being done by smartphones, tablets, laptops, smart TV's and broadcast receivers (Comcast, DirecTV, Dish ,etc).

They should've focused on a traditional gaming console 1st and everything else secondary. They came in at too high of a price point and too many restrictions plus FULL DRM. Not going to happen. At least not for me. A once hardcore devoted MS fan.

thrust3989d ago

Irepbtown, wow just wow.....

You are so bias it is unreal! What a stupid post.

Btw if you plan on playing the ps4 online your not saving £80 at all, maybe you should go and read up on the real price difference, there is not much to it.

Perjoss3989d ago

The price tag is not even close to being the biggest problem the xbox one has.

forcefullpower3989d ago

But it is not a DVR. Just a path though device for changing channels

irepbtown3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

Thrust,

I'm not biased...

If disliking the restriction of used games, having to be online all the time, having a camera always on, paying £80 more is biased, then I don't know what to say to you.

There was a point a few months ago I considered ordering the X1 however after the PS4 conference in Feb I put a deposit down for the PS4. After E3 I cancelled the order @Game and I ordered the PS4 from Amazon.

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kneon3989d ago

It's only a DVR for games, not for TV. So you still need a real DVR for recording TV

jronj3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

I thought it would replace your DVR, but I looked it up and you are right.
http://au.businessinsider.c...
If it does get DVR services (which I pay $15/month for service and box rental) it would eventually pay for itself though, well in a few years :)

kneon3989d ago

Well it may replace a DVR at some point but it can't replace your cable box. So maybe your $15/month will go down to $10.

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reef10173989d ago

You also get a bunch of privacy issues!

Blackdeath_6633989d ago

microsoft was the first company that provided data to PRISM way back in 2007 so if you have 360 you would have already been spied on

creized13989d ago

LMAO man said Windows 8 kernel as an advantage. omg..

SpinalRemains3989d ago

And a DVR which it doesn't have for tv.

He flat out lied.

iliimaster3989d ago

my smart tv has netflix amazon prime video facebook twitter etc at the push of one button on my 65 inch tv..... and i prefer my HOPPA ! from dish can record up to 6 shows at once ! and i got a ipad 2 lol, and

you forgot to add one thing..... if you dont pay ur internet bill forwhatever reason you can't access ANYTHING on that console

WeaseL3989d ago

I have a new Samsung with gesture controls after the novelty wore off I got tired of waving my arms and went back to the remote.

Jakens3989d ago

You don't seem to have a problem paying for your other crap.

Mikelarry3989d ago

hey i never thought of it like that, that is so true. imagine trying to move isp did not have the internet for 1 month let me repeat that 1 MONTH, that would mean if i did get the xb1 (over my dead body ofcourse) and decided to move isp i am am basically screwed for 1 MONTH

SpinalRemains3989d ago

Right.

On xbone you cannot put in your blu ray disk and the game because it is not your game lol.

Its actually painful reading those who defend it. It can possibly destroy everything great about console gaming.

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saggysack793989d ago

i dont care for any of that shit

Odoylerules0003989d ago

Offering more if you're big into live television I guess. You're getting kicked in balls if you're a gamer, though. Honestly, you're paying for an incredibly overpriced fancy cable box (You're not really impressed with the skype or browser..are you?)that you can talk to. If you're lonely its kind of cool. Really though, its all pretty poor for that price.

zerocrossing3989d ago

Don't forget about the invasive, restrictive DRM, mandatory second hand game fees, 24 hour online authentication, Kinetic 2 listening and watching you, and all games must be installed on your hard drive before you are allowed to play them.

LackTrue4K3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

If the prices where switch around I would still go with Sony's Ps4!!

Bull 5hit/fan boy aside, I don't like the fact that your game is almost worthless after you install it!
Your console....your games, your money!
Nothing agust XboxOne, just they have not provide any good games (aside from Titian Fall, that game looks sick!)

I would like if they set them side by side @ retails, and record the effects on video.

thecurseddevil3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

im pretty sure that their windows 8 kernel is gonna perform worse than ps4's unix based os.

94 % of supercomputers use linux which is unix based,
only 0.6% of supercomputers(pretty sure those which are on the bottom 0.6 percentile)use windows kernel.
the only reason that windows is popular on desktops is because most comps come preinstalled with windows,and very few people take the trouble of installing their os themselves.

if you compare pure kernels,windows kernel is,beyond a shadow of doubt the worst one out there.

Hooby3989d ago

What if I don't care about ANY of that. I want to play games...with a controller. All that extra bullcrap I'd be paying for is worthless. Thanks for making me spend a hundred bucks on something I don't want.

Sitdown3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

You just need to realize no matter what Microsoft says or does, some people will disagree by default......Then some will disagree and come up with off the wall scenarios to try and justify their default response. More so recently on N4G it has been from the Sony crew.

Example.......I would never pay to play online, Pay Wall.....soon as Sony gives the revelation, b b but PSN+ offers so much more and it pays for itself. Sony would not do it if it first was not advantageous to them. When there was report of low amount of units for launch....well that is a tactic by Microsoft to create a demand, when reports come out about Sony.....oh that's awesome, people love it. As an owner of all current consoles and future owner of next gen.... Well we will see about the xbox one. This foolishness is one that I never remember during the Sega and Nintendo days.

SpinalRemains3989d ago

You're actually defending all of these awful restrictions under the veil of "well you're a SONY fanboy"

Tell us all personally how you feel about every single feature that MS is either forcing and taking away this Gen.

We would all like to know why we should buy one.

Sell us one.

creatchee3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

He's not defending restrictions - he's pointing out hypocrisies. For about ten years, Microsoft fans have been berated on a daily basis by Sony fans for paying for online multiplayer. Now the shoe is on both feet and there are excuses from the same people who did the attacking for all of those years.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Plus is a GREAT VALUE. This is indisputable. However, no matter how many things they attach to the subscription, you still are paying for online multiplayer. That is the central issue.

Sitdown3989d ago

@creatchee

Bubbles for being level headed and seeing the intentions of my post.

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shaenoide3989d ago

A go to hell package you mean? :p

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amiga-man3989d ago

M$ are also offering a DRM infested 24 hour check in with a kinect that has to be plugged in

Anyone buying into this crap truly are blind to the damage they are doing.

BlindGuardian3989d ago

Xbox one doesn't have any DVR capabilities

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3-4-53989d ago

You can't DVR....not sure if you heard that.

Nor can you watch On-Demand or record to XB1.

But you can watch basic cable !

That a side, at least those who buy, will have solid to really good games to play.

Their game lineup was better than expected but not perfect.

I think they will be pressured via money problems and internal pressure to lower the price + bundle game + remove restrictions they have in place for used games and possible enabling off-switch of kinect sensor.

dale_denton3989d ago

it's been awhile, SERRRRVED.

rainslacker3989d ago

I'm not sure if Windows 8 should be a selling point. It's reception on PC was pretty lackluster, although it is fine for tablets and phones.

All the systems offer a web browser, and generally Internet Explorer is considered one of the worst ones available, although it is still the most widely used due to the fact it ships with windows.

Most gamers don't want Kinect, and while the tech is nice, there are things about it which obviously turn people off. Why not just leave it extra like Sony did? Let the people that want it bear the cost of it.

Also, you don't get a DVR with the X1, you get a pass-through connection which adds an overlay and control functions to your existing DVR. It's a cool feature and all, but hardly worth dropping $500 on. It's one of those things that if it's there it's maybe worth using, but many TV's, and other devices already have this functionality. It seems to me that a lot of people aren't rushing out to get those devices...which are already much cheaper.

So...what features of the Xbox, besides the one you listed, make you think people would be willing to buy the system for $500? The games perhaps, but it seems most gamers are really turned off by the system.

The system will probably sell fine at first, but I expect it's long term appeal will be low to the mass consumers. MS does have a chance to work with cable providers though, which could help it's install base. I also wouldn't doubt that the current high price is more reflective of the fact that they want to subsidize it, thus making it look like a better deal to get it through some sort of contract...not unlike how most cell phones are sold now.

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FrightfulActions3989d ago

I'll be 'that guy': The price tag is the LEAST of Xbox One's problems right now.

Sitdown3989d ago

I think it's a big part....you can't require me to give up what I am accustomed to, force a camera on me, all while requesting me to pay significantly more than your competitor.....you are forgetting how you made it this far, the cheapest alternative to playing 3rd party games.

snipab8t3989d ago

It is $599 bloody dollars in Australia!

shivvy243989d ago

we are part of the european pricing so, convert it and it should be close i think

BALLARD323989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

The $499 price tags is like the least of the problems. I wouldn't have a problem paying that if it wasn't for the stupid DRM.

MysticStrummer3989d ago

Agreed. I bought my PS3 when they were $599 and never thought twice about it. $499 is not the thing that made MS lose E3.

irepbtown3989d ago

Because of the restrictions, because of the stupid things MS are implementing, $499/£429.99 is not justifiable when Sony are charging $399/£349.99 for a console that is a mile ahead of the X1.

If MS had a beast console, no stupid restrictions, $499/£429.99 would not be a bad price.

Perjoss3989d ago

Exactly, I was ready to buy both Sony and Microsofts consoles on day 1 until Microsoft started pulling a Harbinger and assuming direct control of pretty much everything.

I'm paying for games with my hard earned cash so I can play them on your console, the only thing you need to do is tell me 'thank you', NOT tell me how and when I can play MY games and eventually cut me off when you decide you no longer want to host the authentication servers.

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Gaming4Ever3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

Judging by the response I'm getting when talking to people, I really don't think they'll get away with it. I've seen the toughest of the tough Microsoft fan praise Sony and the PS4 instead. It's game over.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7717h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE13h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware73013h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor10h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos10h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor10h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos10h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos1d 22h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 21h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 12h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 12h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 21h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 16h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 23h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 21h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 23h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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