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Xbox One is a desperate prayer to stop time

Gamasutra editor-at-large Leigh Alexander wasn't particularly impressed with today's "groundbreaking" Xbox One unveiling.

"At the opening of Microsoft's Xbox One reveal, my first thought was that I feel old: An amped movie trailer soundtrack accompanies the pan-out on the big Reveal Tent on the company's campus, and I couldn't be gladder not to be there: No wristband, no ambling in line for logo lanyards and pounding sizzle reel, no obligatory applause for yet another annual lime green laser light show. Other people are excited about this, probably. I'm not. I'm become the jaded cynic, destroyer of dreams."

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GribbleGrunger3992d ago

Whether you agree with it or not, that's one hell of a well written article.

Enemy3992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

http://www.gameinformer.com...

Fastforward to 10:10, guys. Xbox One only gives games 5GB RAM to work with.

PS4 = 8GB GDDR5 unified to games

I love how Marc tries to brush it off by saying "but but the other 3 gigs will let you watch TV while you play!"

LightofDarkness3992d ago

That's 5GB of system RAM, which will more than likely be on par with what PS4 will offer in terms of system RAM use. Remember, PS4's 8GB are shared between GPU and CPU with 1GB reserved for OS. So imagine 2GB will be used for VRAM (mostly textures) at any given time if not more, so it could well be around 5GB available for anything other than VRAM uses in the PS4 too. They've yet to confirm how much VRAM the X1 will have (which will undoubtedly be GDDR5). If they're using DDR3 for VRAM, god help them.

Anyway, the thing sucks in general, I don't know why I'm wasting my breath defending it on a technical level.

tuglu_pati3992d ago

According to some rumors PS4 will use 1GB of ram for the operating system, leaving developers 7Gb to use which, is way more than the Xbox one have or use for gaming.

Xbox One will be competing with Wii U in terms of power.

darthv723992d ago

shadowfall was said to only be using 3gb of ram. So if xbox one has 5gb to work with and can achieve some sort of parity in its visuals then...hey.

Its all good.

The main difference between ther two is the type of memory. 8gb DDR3 is =/= to 8gb GDDR5 from what some site say. GDDR is higher latency but faster and better for graphic intensive uses. DDR is lower latency and slower but better for multitasking workload.

both platforms seem to be using similar specs with what we can discern. Specs aside...its the games and features that define each platform.

Each will be a welcome addition in my home.

jerethdagryphon3992d ago

light the apu that the x1 uses is similat to this http://www.aria.co.uk/Super...

only slower with 8 cores.

the ram pool is shared 8gb is vram+cpuram they may have a small framebuffer again not sure

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abzdine3992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

i could really feel MS didn't see that feb 20th announcement coming!! it was such a mess with that console design they just made yesterday night -_-

Clarence3992d ago

Hell naw!they didn't see it coming! It hit'em like the hulk
http://m.youtube.com/watch?...

M$ is trying to appeal to people who watch TV all day and night. Fantasy football they can't be serious. Fail every article pretty on here pretty much is saying how bad their conference was.

uuaschbaer3992d ago

Yes, it is,and not littered with the usual going-forwardses.

d0nni33992d ago

I agree sir, very well written artical that bought up points i hadn't considered as yet. It does paint a very jaded look at what we saw today and i have to say i can't find a reason to disagree with him.

EVILDEAD3603992d ago

Conference was far from desperate.

MS showed off what they needed to show, you could lobby the same criticisms at Sony.

At the end of the day, even without E3, MS is set-up perfectly to have a hugely successful launch.

Evil

PirateThom3992d ago

The entire internet disagrees with you. There was a wholly positive vibe after a 2 hour PS4 event. the XB1 event has been met with mostly negativity or indifference.

That's the reality. The disappointing reality.

They didn't show what they needed to show, they showed a media box rather than a gaming console.

kenshiro1003992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

Are you kidding me? You, of ALL people should not be defending this. And please don't give me that 'wait until E3' crap because I am not looking forward to E3.

Microsoft disappoints yet again.

d0nni33992d ago

It will have a great launch i'm sure but we're too far away to be speculating about that yet, we know next to nothing about how they will realistically stack up against each other!

I would disagree that they have set themselves up perfectly though, the conference left a lot to be desired. Granted they have got the basic functionality on show and got the console reveal out of the way meaning they can focus on games more at E3, it just seems that the things they did announce did nothing to increase hype, they whole thing left me feeling empty i have to say.

What was there to get excited about? Fifa getting an exclusing mode in Ultimate Team (i've yet to meet anyone that uses this part of Fifa). Another CoD game that didn't really show anything apart from the usual fanfare of slow-mo running with a few dogs and not so great arm hair (o_0) more slow mo cars and the only thing that looked half decent was Remedys new project.

It lack substance and anything to really make you look back and say "Wow, i didn't see that coming" It was lots of promises for the future without promising anything

They best have a dam good ace up their sleeve for E3 because from what they showed today, they've forgotten who buys the damn thing

SCW19823992d ago

How can you lobby the same complaints against Sony? They actually showed live gameplay not a bunch of trailers calling it gameplay. Not once was there an actual game being played at this event. I laughed out loud when they showed XBOXONE graphics by showing a trailer for EA sports games that was laughably prerendered. So please explain how the same complaints can be thrown against Sony? Or go on defending your Black Laser Disc Player from 79

EVILDEAD3603992d ago

@ Pirate Thom

'The entire internet disagrees with you'

LMAO. The ENTIRE Internet disagrees with what?

Are you really claiming that EVERONE on the internet had only positive things about Sony and EVERYONE on the internet has only negative things to say about this conference?

Believe what YOU want. I'm not hating on the Sony conference at all. What I am saying is you could easily make the argument that they both showed what they had to show to get their messaging across and are BOTH saving their big announcements for E3.

Either way, the MS conference was far from a desperate at all.

Sony showed it's hardware capabilities, tech demos, 1st and 3rd party games, and leveraged partnerships.

MS did exactly the same thing. But didn't use 2 hours to do it.

Evil

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rainslacker3992d ago

Gamasutra is one of the last bastions of good gaming journalism, and it's to be expected. Most of their writing focuses on the development and business side of games though, not really as much on the consumer side.

ArchangelMike3992d ago

Excellent article. Who in the gaming industry has been gasping for a media cable box? Nobody, that's who.
M$ just failed at their own unveiling.

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HowarthsNJ3992d ago

I get the joke, "Xbox Won". Sorry if I'm not the first to think this.

kingmushroom3992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

i was thinking the same thing and that's what they have to do to trick the public, which is lame.

majiebeast3992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

Xbox one official theme song has been revealed.

http://youtu.be/d5ab8BOu4LE

4 is better then 1.

Polygon and wired are both reporting that the xbox one will have a powerbrick. This thing is just a massive disaster.

Show me the power supply in this pic
http://www.wired.com/images...

This unveiling just beat Sony E3 2006 and thats a pretty big achievement.

adorie3992d ago

To think I had this in a tab, ready to use. *closes tab and hits agree*

Enemy3992d ago

Not sure if you're joking about the powerbrick but that would be tragic.

HammadTheBeast3992d ago

I just realized my PS3 didn't have on lol.

Then I remembered..... cold winter nights.... Xbox RROD.... power brick.... giving me warmth.....

adorie3992d ago

Destroyer of Dreams Vs Freddy Kruger.
On-topic: Touche, Gribble. I can't even talk negatively about Xbox one anymore, because it's already getting old. This article is a similar reflection, thus after reading it, I came to the conclusion that the negative press will live on without me.

On a final note, can't wait for E3. My pre-order money is ready for Greatness. :)

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7219h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle6h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18813h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga5h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21834h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1018h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac7h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1016h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic4h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 15h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 13h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 10h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 3h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 5h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 1h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 13h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic23h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9022h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 14h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 11h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 13h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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