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Is Illumiroom the Next Xbox's secret weapon?

Microsoft’s Illumiroom technology could be one of the platform holder’s key drivers behind its new Xbox.

As MCV reported in January following the tech’s unveiling at CES, Illumiroom uses a system that harks back to the old Philips amBX tech, but evolves it far beyond anything seen before. A projector is used to extend visual cues from the game beyond the edges of the TV display to the walls of the room in which the user is playing.

GalacticEmpire4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

This whole illumiroom thing has gotten out of hand. It's either going to be wildy expensive, massively impractical or both. It's a pipe dream wrapped in yet more smoke and mirrors. I guess it could work with PCs somwhere down the line but it's HIGHLY unlikely to ever see a console release.

Cruelty4029d ago

Lets say it does see a console release, eventually. I have two kids that will love this. Im sure many parents will agree, its gimmicky but will make MS tons of cash.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34029d ago

@Galacticempire, it's only using a Kinect and a projector.

GalacticEmpire4029d ago

I'm sure kids would love it,it's a good concept. They'd also like to play paintball in the living room and it'll likely be as expansive and inconvenient.

dcbronco4029d ago

Galactic you have to understand that some people spend more on their children than others. I don't think this will be huge because of the projector. But if MS can partner with a manufacturer to make a cheap stripped down projector geared toward this for a couple of hundred, they might have something.

BitbyDeath4029d ago

Gonna be a great way to find out if your kids suffer from seizures.

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RuleofOne343 4029d ago

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
but if all the articles had been about this you would be more positive, more open minded but since it not you feel no need to see it as a possibility.

zebramocha4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

I think Sony's version is better but its still crap as it doesn't really change gameplay.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34029d ago

Sony's version would require MORE projectors.

Jek_Porkins4029d ago

We don't have any idea of price, it's an interesting concept that requires absolutely no glasses, yet adds immersion into gaming.

For the first time in a long time, I've seen people praise something Microsoft is coming up with, I think it's cool, I've played video games on an HD projector before and I can attest to the fun level.

Do you honestly think they'd be teasing it like they are if it was never going to see release? You can get a decent projector for a couple hundred bucks, Microsoft could take a loss on something like this to get it in people's homes.

GalacticEmpire4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

"Do you honestly think they'd be teasing it like they are if it was never going to see release?"

Milo, that is all.

See fr0sty's comment for a response to "You can get a decent projector for a couple hundred bucks"

@Jek's comment below:
aaaaaaand out comes the strawman logical fallacy. I'm saying something you dislike so I must be "the biggest troll" or on my "high horse". Why not give me a proper counter argument instead of lashing out personally.

Milo was a concept just like illumiroom, what's the difference here?

fr0sty4029d ago

I am a professional video mapper. I've been using this technology to create visual installations at concerts for years. In order for it to be useful against ambient light (both from windows or lights on in the house and from the TV itself), you're going to want a 2500 lumen or brighter projector (and that's on the very, very low end. We use a minimum of 5,000 lumens). You can pick up a 2500-3000 lumen short throw projector for around $500 these days. We'll say it'll cost Microsoft $300, that's being generous. Then you have to toss in the cost of the kinect hardware, as well as the Xbox itself. By the time you buy this kit, you're spending near $1000 for a machine that may not even work properly in your living room environment, and you'll only be able to get the most out of it at night with all the lights out.

It's a really cool technology, but I think it's coming on a bit too soon. They need to let projector and depth sensing tech mature a little longer before rolling this one out, me thinks. Prices need to come down, brightness and resolution need to come up, and then we can talk about marrying video projection mapping with video game.

Just my 2 cents, as someone who does this for a living.

GalacticEmpire4029d ago

Thanks for the professional insight. Although I'm no "professional video mapper", it was obvious this wasn't going to come cheap.

fr0sty4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

You can do some amazing things with video mapping (see attached video). The potential it has when married with interactive gaming is awesome. I just think they're jumping the gun a bit. Video mapping is an expensive art form. The projectors we like to use cost around $50,000 each, and for large installations we'll use several of them. There are 2 of them being used in the video I attached (not my work, by the way, just the work of someone I admire).

I admire Microsoft for attempting to bring this into the living room... but I would expect to see the release of this delayed for a few years at least.

I should also note that just aligning the projectors properly to pull off the effects seen in the attached video would take a team of projectionists several hours to pull off. It was 4 hours per stop on Roger Waters' "The Wall" tour, to align the 25 projectors they used to fill the wall with video. Microsoft is trying to do this automatically with just Kinect. Cool concept, but I'm not sure how accurate it will be. Even being a millimeter off in video mapping creates a skew in the image that ruins the illusion.

InUrFoxHole4029d ago

Not saying ur not good at ur job so don't take offense. I have the feeling if ms really wants to incorporate this technology with the new Xbox they're gonna bring in some pros to make it more user friendly for meat heads like me. Either way I won't pay for kinekt but I would pay a friendly price for this. I bet u love ur job, lol.

Jek_Porkins4029d ago

You are the biggest troll, Milo was a tech demo, Microsoft stated it was a tech demo. This Illumiroon thing is something they've obviously invested time and thought into. They are meeting with investors over it as well, it's a totally different situation.

If you don't like it, don't buy it when it comes out. You are so negative around anything Microsoft, just hop on down off your high horse. We get it, you don't like what they are doing.

zebramocha4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

No it wasn't there is video of it being played,only thing fake about is,milo's intelligence.

jcnba284029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

I'm sure you would say the same thing if this tech was coming to the PS4.

camel_toad4029d ago

I would take the Oculus Rift over this any day.

Tapioca Cold4029d ago

I think its great. Would love to see it on all consoles. Pricy at the moment.

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sway_z4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

Interesting as it is....

It will not debut on Next Xbox because it won't be ready. MS has already stated this. This is not present tech, it's future tech...like the future beyond the next gen.

Concept.

josephayal4029d ago

I just don’t understand the purpose of Illumiroom. At first it seems cool in a novel way, but I see it being more of a distraction than something that increases immersion

g-nome4029d ago

It is experimental tech and will not be part of the next Xbox.

SmokingMonkey4029d ago

A projector that faces your television?

It kind of makes your TV look bigger?

Projectors can be loud, and you have to play in the dark?

I'm not seeing this.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus2320h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos10h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb339h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC22m ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 2h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies13h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear218h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 5h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 4h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC18m ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615869h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k44h ago(Edited 4h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin5h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k44h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 4h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead18h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage11h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 4h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 3h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel19h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19798h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage11h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead2d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1d 19h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 10h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 16h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 10h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow20h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 10h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow20h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney15h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 16h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 14h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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