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Why Microsoft Sucked The Fun (And Community) Out Of Their Next-Gen Xbox Unveil

FleshEatingZipper writes: Flash forward to today and we’re getting bald-faced invites to watch Microsoft unveil their third console through their current console and through their site. There is no Colony. There is no Xbox point man to reassure us that this console is coming to us from a place of enthusiasm to make games. This is no longer an affair for the hardcore because the crowd has grown so much larger. The Xbox is far beyond just games, it’s far beyond just Halo, Oddworld, or Gears of War.

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PopRocks3594025d ago

Simple; they allowed this rumor about "always online" to go completely out of control and waited far too long to say something about it and it resulted in a lot of anger and frustration from gamers on the internet. It's hard to get excited about something after a mess like that.

TFXR4025d ago

But watch the Colony video included, they talk about all the benefits of 'always on' seven years ago and it sounds amazing.

zerocrossing4025d ago

Always on is fine if you can play games without an Internet connection, otherwise it's a terrible idea.

DragonKnight4025d ago

Always-on in the sense of your console will always be connected to facilitate things like updates and new features is one thing. Always-on in the sense that you can't play games without a network connection will NEVER be right and NEVER have legitimate justification even if that justification was "if you are always-on, we can make games cheaper."

CEOSteveBallmer4025d ago

"Optional" is the word that microsoft is missing here if they really implement it. I can just imagine playing a game when my internet goes down, in the middle of my play a message pops up, my game booted me out to the main menu and tells me, "There has been a connection Error, Please connect to the internet to play".

ziggurcat4024d ago

dragonknight hit the nail on the head.

if its implementation is such that you never have to turn on your console or boot a game only to find out that an update is available, i'm all for an always-on connection. if its implementation is such that it's required to be online in order to play your games (even if it's single player), then that's a load of horse ****.

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Blastoise4025d ago

" and waited far too long to say something about it"

And then they came out with "Deal with it" lol

PopRocks3594025d ago

Eyup. That was a derp on that guy's part. I feel badly that a series of poorly thought out tweets lost him his job, but in this day and age you have to be careful what you say when you're in those high profile positions in the industry.

Diver4024d ago (Edited 4024d ago )

I don't feel bad. It wasn't one faux pas. It was a progression over days of jibber jabbering. An it was jibber jabber driven by arrogance an condescension. Especially bad was jabbin peeps that couldn't really control where they live.

Nah this dude wasn't fired for one tweet an one mistake.

BitbyDeath4025d ago

MS shot down the rumours of next xbox and illumiroom pretty quickly

http://www.engadget.com/201...

so considering they have said nothing yet about 'always online' it is most likely real.

YodaCracker4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

They didn't "shoot down rumors" about Illumiroom... That's an interview about the tech where they were asked when it will be available. Nothing to do with rumors. Microsoft, like any company, does not comment on rumors or speculation. Especially when it deals directly with unannounced hardware. You can't tell people specific details about the next Xbox, especially when it does not even officially "exist" yet.

AngelicIceDiamond4025d ago

Consider MS never had stamped a date on their console. Now people are gonna try and say "oh the rumors say this" or "oh the rumors say that."

I understand the bad rumors were happening with Sony before they revealed it. And no, no internet don't trick yourselves in saying

"well Sony showed there love for the gamers, therefor announced the console to clear up the rumors."

Sony announced its console right before the rumors formed into a monster of speculation and misconception.

Remember when Sony trolled MS with this comment http://n4g.com/news/1158634... Look how easy and sensible with the majority of peoples comments.

a couple of weeks later the PS4 gets announced via Ustream.

Now 2 short months later MS stamps a release date finally. Now people are saying "its no surprise now."

MS let the rumors pile for a reason. They know rumors don't go beyond gaming sites no matter how bad.

They are rumors, anonymous sources from all four coners of the internet were coming hard at MS. I do believe these "unknown sources" were making up some of these rumors as time passed. Because that's the sweetest part about the internet, gosspip and stories.

@PopRocks Yeah that's the internet. Rumors don't go very far via word of mouth.

malokevi4024d ago

Lol. Another hilariously written troll article.

I suspect the author is already playing on the next Xbox, hmm?

That, or blowing smoke out their ass.

I'm banking on the latter.

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OC_MurphysLaw4025d ago

LOL.. to the author what exactly is a " bald-faced invites "?

KillrateOmega4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

No facial hair allowed.

They don't take kindly to it in them parts :P

kneon4025d ago

That would explain why I didn't get one :)

wolokowoh4025d ago

The author is using baldfaced to mean obvious, straightforward, or unmistakable. Microsoft went from being completely secretive to inviting people to Next-Gen Xbox in a straightforward, open manner. No attempt was made to hide what it is truly is. It's an invite to an Next Xbox event not just a Microsoft one named something ambiguous. A little linguistic history. The term "Bold-faced lies" or "bald-faced" began as bare-faced lies, meaning the face wasn't covered up and no attempt was made to cover the lie up. It turned into bold to characterize the behavior. Bald meant white or bare so it somehow morphed into that.

OC_MurphysLaw4025d ago

Well there you go... I learned something today. :)

aviator1894025d ago

I'm plenty excited about what ms will show at their xbox reveal event.
And as for rumors regarding anything, I normally just brush them aside and wait for the real thing.

Aceman184025d ago

i'm quite the opposite i'll watch the reveal, but i'm not really excited for it nor will i be purchasing it.

been gaming for over 30 yrs and this is the first time i probably wont be owning multiple consoles in one generation.

Gazondaily4025d ago

You won't be purchasing a console you haven't even seen? Well that sounds odd to me, but I'll be doing the more rational thing and wait till the reveal to make up my mind. Most likely however, I suspect that I'll be buying both consoles at launch.

Aceman184025d ago

@septic

if LIVE is the most important part of the xbox experience, and i refuse to pay someone else to access my own internet im already paying my cable subscriber to do what would be the purpose of buying their new system?

Supermax4025d ago

I'm looking forward to the next box gonna be fun and exciting for me just like I loved watching Sonys event

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How can any Xbox studio trust Microsoft now?

For Xbox’s hugely expanded gaming division, anything that isn’t Call of Duty is now a failure, and that’s a problem

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lelo2play15h ago

Honestly, If I worked presently for Microsoft's gaming division, I would update my CV and look for work elsewhere...

Simon_the_sorcerer15h ago

I would do the same, because MS will most likely pull-off more stunts like this in the near future...

Chocoburger5h ago

"Now"?

How about "ever"?

They closed so many of their dev teams during the second half of the Xbox 360 era. Have we forgotten history so quickly?

Dummy fake journalists acting so surprised over these recent closures, when this is something that's been going on for well over a decade now with MS.

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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just_looken11h ago

Sense it seems very few remember that human's were around before 2020 the next studio to close will be bethesda based no doubt on the history of.

Fallout 76
Elder scrolls online
elder scrolls blades mobile
fallout mobile
The vr versions of old games

Then you got starfield pissing out cash nothing to cover it.

I doubt tod's team or any sub team is making m$ cash they are no doubt on the chopping block for job cuts

If you can remember before 2020 even fallout 76 was made with over 4 studios.

-Foxtrot12h ago

"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno12h ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

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Profchaos10h ago

Leaders can't run them hire more management create new roles don't shutter entire studios cause you can't figure out how to run them.

Unless the reality is this whole consolidation thing was really an excuse for IP harvesting

anast33m ago

He's lying. They are doing it for the shareholders.

Eonjay12h ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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NotoriousWhiz11h ago

And out of the ashes something even better than Xbox will be born.

Eonjay11h ago

Honestly as long as is not a situation where the industry has to contract in order focus wealth on a few people who are already trillionaires..

Barlos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

It's already here and it was born before Xbox was even a thing. It's called PlayStation.

Tacoboto10h ago

I think 2022 killed the Series X.

2021 was a good year for Xbox though and maybe the best in a long long time, hardware and software and as a publisher. Halo Infinite launched to popularity, Forza Horizon 5 blew everyone away, Psychonauts 2 was so well received, Flight Simulator on console, Deathloop even on PS5 & PC.

But they followed that up with next to nothing. Then 2023 with Redfall, a disappointing Forza, Starfield, and 2024 leads with closures and layoffs. And some tweets reminding us Hellblade is days away.

The only disappointment with the PS5 is not enough Sony games. Xbox followed up no games with disappointing ones.

Scissorman12h ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff218312h ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

porkChop20m ago

"the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation"

But the same thing *has* been happening at PS. They've closed, what, 3 or 4 studios so far this gen? Laid off plenty of staff, restructured studios, etc.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast1d ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech519h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom21h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff218321h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus2320h ago(Edited 20h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-17h ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

Elda16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

To me...Avowed graphics look cheap, the game looks generic as well as boring.

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anast1d ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast19h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim19h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

anast15h ago

I find it interesting that people have to resort to praising how they were randomly born in a certain location to say they're not weird. But, I'm not sure this kind of stupidity can be generalized over an entire group of people, at least, I'm being optimistic here.

Eonjay23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman22h ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto20h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA20h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda20h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz14920h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT18h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Skuletor14h ago

Wasn't it no new existing IP entries? That would still leave room for new IPs, maybe we'll see one or more of those this year.

Sonic188118h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead23h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson21h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff218321h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus2320h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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