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PS4: Sony Will Let Microsoft Make First Move

IGN:You may have noticed that there are lots of rumours flying about regarding next-gen consoles. No one knows definitely when Microsoft and Sony will unveil their successors to the current Xbox and PlayStation, but Sony CEO Kazuo Hirai has said that it will let Microsoft make the first move. (Next-Gen)

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Walker  +   538d ago
Just like this generation ? huh ?

Hurry Up sony, you need to take the market in your hands .
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IAMERROR  +   538d ago
C'mon MS let's see it! Sony is waiting!
NeverEnding1989  +   538d ago
What a shame. This is the exact situation as Kinect/Move. When M$ announced Kinect at E3, Sony, who presented the next day, had to scramble to come up with their own version of motion sensing peripheral. And that's how we arrived at the Wii-mote HD.

Waiting for Microsoft to go first does put SONY in a good position. But what if M$ decides to do the same thing?

It's sad that the console maker with two generations of 100 million consoles sold is resorting to this. Can you imagine a PS2 era SONY acting the same way? I wonder where all that confidence/arrogance went.
Red_Orange_Juice  +   538d ago
I think he means the reveal date not release
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osamaq  +   538d ago
now iam 100% sure that the ps4 will come in 2014
tehpees3  +   538d ago
If Sony really are moving last they will fall behind again.

They will probably show their hand this year but won't move until next year.
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kneon  +   538d ago | Intelligent
@NeverEnding1989

"scramble to come up with their own version of motion sensing peripheral."

I didn't realize filing the patents for Move almost 10 years before Kinect was announced and showing off various prototypes throughout that decade could be considered scrambling. They seemed to really be taking their time to me.
insomnium2  +   538d ago
LOL that pic is just perfect with that title.
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Shadowstar  +   538d ago
"When M$ announced Kinect at E3, Sony, who presented the next day, had to scramble to come up with their own version of motion sensing peripheral. And that's how we arrived at the Wii-mote HD."

Lol. Coming up with the Move overnight, along with that demo, would have been magic. Despite the claims of some fanboys, Sony is not made of magic.
Ezz2013  +   538d ago
pricing strategy
This has probably more to do with pricing and resease schedule than what's actually in the box.

sony want to wait to see what price the nextbox will have
and offer something close to it or the same price
so the media don't jump on their back like 2006
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SilentNegotiator  +   538d ago
@NeverEnding

You think Sony threw Move together in a day?

Are you high??
blackbeld  +   538d ago
I hope Kaz knows what he is doing.

It's an interesting move and it could help but if he launch it 1year after Microsoft again then it would be very stupid.
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Septic  +   538d ago
It does seem like a cop out strategy in one way. It goes to show that Sony doesn't have a vision and isn't willing to take charge. It only sees the next generation in terms of raw specs and competing on those terms. Business-wise however, it makes complete sense and considring Sony's financial woes, it probably is the prudent thing to do.

But it takes balls to to take the lead and unveil first. You're automatically on the back foot because your opponents can tweak and counter your tech and strategies. Let's just hope Sony don't take too long as a head start can be quite detrimental as we have seen this gen. However, if Sony do release late but release a significantly more poweful console then it's MS who are in real trouble depending obviously on things like ease of development etc.

But what does this mean for E3? Surely Sony has to unveil the new console unless it expects MS to unveil their machine much earlier than E3? Sony not unveiling a console at E3 will just be disappointing.
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Hydrolex  +   537d ago
what if sony lunches later than MS but a lot more powerful console ??? That would make me want to sell my new xbox 720 for a PS4
MikeMyers  +   537d ago
"Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?"

Is this in relation to what Sony did after the Wii got so much attention and then came out with the Move?

These systems are years in the making so even if the Microsoft waited to see what Sony offered it would still take a long time to come out with something better. You also risk giving Sony a headstart.

You have to pay attention to the competition but you can't revolve around what they do.
sikbeta  +   537d ago
So, pretty much 7th gen repeat all over agian, huh?
dboyc310  +   538d ago
I actually will like them to unveil last. That way they make the last impression which is important. Maybe they do have something great in their hands and want to eclipse the announcement of the next xbox. Plus if they do release their console last in won't be for a whole yr probably a couple of months later.
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Abdou23  +   538d ago
Actually it'e better to give the first impression, that way you make it hard for others to top what you showed.
UnholyLight  +   538d ago
Yeah I see what youère saying. Its almost like how last week Chevy unveiled their new trucks and BOOM Ford shows off a concept the next day at the Detroit Auto Show and sort of stole their thunder.

I think Sony is just unsure at the moment exactly where they want to price their product. If Mirosoft announces a high price then Sony will be safe in announcing a high price as well, but if Sony announces first and says hey our console is gonna retail at $450-$550 and Microsoft decided on a lower price then it could be a bit of a mistake again just like the PS3s initial entry point.

Its a real fine line that both companies are kind of having to walk on this time around. I dont see the Wii U as a real competitor to these consoles at the moment but some would argue it is key that they price relatively close to the Wii U so as to not lose any sales.

EDIT: As I type though I begin to notice that its like these consoles might actually be cheaper than expected, since a recent article highlighted that the reasons why PS3 was so expensive initially was because of the new tech that was not cost effective at the time.
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B1663r  +   537d ago
Actually, if they announce last, then they look like the 'also ran'
ApolloTheBoss  +   538d ago
All they need is more advertising next gen and they'll grab consumers by the balls.
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Mr_cheese  +   538d ago
The advertising needs to be constantly good though because it was terrible during the launch. Gameplay and features adverts should be key as aposed to metaphorical weird stuff.

6 years ago - http://www.youtube.com/watc...

one year later - http://www.youtube.com/watc... (much better)
UnholyLight  +   538d ago
What country do you live in if you donèt mind me askingÉ I see a vast amount of Sony commercials, and in some cases they are way more memorable than Microsoft commercials (mission accomplished), especially when they had Kevin Butler and he was joking about us Canadians and maple syrup and pancakes lol. I mean, Microsoft has lots of Xbox ads but I really didnèt see a ton until the Kinect came out. Also, Halo 4 got a HUGE advertising push and had spots on Sportcentre(ESPN equivalent) and such. But in reality, here at least it seems Sony does a lot of advertising, and games like that All Stars Battle Royal or whatever its called was advertised LOTS the last couple months.
UnholyLight  +   537d ago
Not sure why I am getting downvoted so much for my comment. In Canada I see a lot of Sony ads when I happen to be watching TV, is that somehow wrong? haha
RedDevils  +   537d ago
they're more memorable because it's disturbing. common who on earth show a creepy baby like some scary movies lol
iNFAMOUZ1  +   538d ago
market in your hands LMAO, damn these sony fanboys are too funny man
deafdani  +   538d ago
Well, it's true... Sony would definitely benefit much more from getting the lion's share of the market next gen than the other 2 companies, because they're in very bad financial shape.

Microsoft and Nintendo are in a very healthy state, with a good balance between their net worth value and their debts... meanwhile, Sony is in so much debt, they would need to sell about 85% of their total assets to call them all off. That's quite a bad position there.

So, I hope Sony actually makes a big splash with their next console. For their own good, and for gaming's good in general. :/
dlpg585  +   538d ago
@deafdani
i had no idea that sony was in such bad shape, is it sony's entire company or just it's gaming division?

if anyone else could back this up/deny it that would be great

while i personally haven't been able to nab a ps3 due to financial reasons (my 360 was a gift) i wholeheartedly support their influence on the gaming world and would be sad to see it go for any reason.

i also feel that if sony waits a year to release again they very well may have a repeat of this generation. whichever company makes their console a must have this generation will gain the lions share of the market. this includes the wii u.
shinrock  +   538d ago
we all know sony don't market well.
ConstipatedGorilla  +   538d ago
I'm rooting for Sony. This could save their asses. I want to see a return to the PS2 days! I'm no fanboy - I own all 3, but why would you want to see the competition wiped out?
jivah  +   538d ago
@deafdani Sony isnt in bad shape. Its actually doing good as a company right now much better than before... AMD on the other hand is another story.. They are in horrible shape and the future looks dim
deafdani  +   538d ago
@dlpg585

Good for you for demanding a source instead of just blindly believing what some stranger in the internet spouts. Here you go:

http://www.notenoughshaders...

This link above is a quite comprehensive study of Sony's financial state, and yes, said poor state is for the Sony company as a whole, not just the entertainment division. Now, for those that don't want to read this admittedly long article, here's it issues in a nutshell:

1. Sony's total worldwide assets amount to 166.22 billion dollars.
2. Sony's total worldwide liabilities (basically, their debts) amount to 135.61 billion dollars.

Quote from the article:

"Since total assets include everything that Sony owns (cash, buildings, divisions, intellectual property, etc.)…Sony would have to sell over 80 percent of their total assets (Total Assets = Every single thing Sony owns including cash) just to pay off their total liabilities.

If you combined the June 2012 total liabilities of Microsoft ($54.91 billion), Apple ($51.15B), Google ($21.33 billion), and Electronic Arts ($2.27 Billion), that would equal to $129.66 billion in liabilities. Sony would STILL have $5.95 billion more in total liabilities than Microsoft, Apple, Google, and Electronic Arts combined. It really paints a picture of just how out of control Sony’s total liabilities have become."

I'm not necessarily saying that Sony is doomed and will go bankrupt soon, but their financial state is quite grim. All the more reason to hope that the PS4 (and Vita) ends up being massive successes that help Sony out. We don't want them out of the gaming landscape, do we? :/
darkride66  +   538d ago
@ deafdani.

I've seen that article before and as an FMA and former broker, I can't tell you how flawed the whole thing is, from it's focus on debt to the mistaken importance it puts on market cap as a sign of company health (using 2000 before the tech bubble burst as a staring point? Really? Because there's a reason that bubble burst, everything was tremendously overvalued just as stocks are undervalued across the board today)

You seem to forget, Sony runs a financial business. Banking, Insurance, Securities. These industries make money by issuing debt instruments, and lots of them. That's how these business work, by creating, buying and selling debt. The world's debt markets absolutely dwarf the stock markets. Obviously they're going to be carrying more debt than a company like Microsoft or Apple, because neither of those companies runs a bank.

For comparison, look at Bank of America, the 3rd largest company in the world. They have assets of about 2 trillion dollars and liabilities of about 2 trillion dollars yet no one is concerned. It's because they understand to run a financial business, you issue and sell debt. That's what Sony's financial businesses do, so they're expected to carry debt.

I'm not saying for a second that Sony's doing just fine or doesn't have challenges to overcome, but in this case comparing debt is really an apples/oranges comparison. Creating debt is how the financial industry does business.
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mwjw696  +   538d ago
@deafdani Thank you for finding the article for us. I was looking for it every place.

The sad thing is most Fanboys with a close mind with blow it off as garbage and never understand why it is so important to all of Sony.

It would have been nice if he also updated it. Since it is a comprehensive list of the down sloap of Sony to this point. Sony has already begun srinking or preparing for some kind of major change by selling off 2 of its major buildings. One in New York for $1.1 bil, and the other in Tokyo for $1 bil. Not sure why they need the money that bad, or what is going to happen to the employies.

The future is grey for Sony, not dark but Sony will never be the same.

@Darkride66

I think you only saw in that article what you wanted to see. He makes many points not just dept and marketcap. I sugjest trying to read the article again. It is not just money that is Sonys problem but its entire company structure that needs to change.
die_fiend  +   538d ago
@darkride

Where do u find Bank of America as the 3rd biggest company in the world? Fancy linking us up on that. It's as if you're trying to come across as an expert in the field, when all u seem to do is comment on here...ignoring the debt, what about the recent losses? Those are pretty hefty. Maybe if they had u as their financial adviser this wouldn't have happened? Shame really
Saigon  +   537d ago
I think you'll need to think of it like this. If Sony is in so much debt or bleeding dry as some would say, it wouldn't be wise to keep coming out with new products as much as they do. Each week I receive emails of a dozen or so new products that Sony has decided to release. If they were in so much debt, than they shouldn't come out with the Next PlayStation to save money.

The biggest issue with Sony is not the company as a whole. Sony has certain products that are not selling as they should or use to. Sony, tried to hide the products that are not selling well by switching or combining product divisions to hide these losses, but these losses were too significant and eventually peaked through. You also have to take into consideration the Tsunami that occurred and affected the company. I am not making excuses but I think people need to look at the factors (and there are plenty more) and not the underline number that so many people point out.
ziggurcat  +   538d ago
@ walker007

i don't think sony needs to hurry up.

and it kind of makes sense to force MS to make the first move... that way, sony can pull the old "oh, you think *that's* impressive? well, get a load of *this*" move and blow everyone's minds.

also, nothing is going to hit the market until next year anyway, so be a little bit more patient... there are some amazing games coming out this year (and probably next year, too).
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   538d ago
You can't copy things that are successful from the competitor when you come out first!

This is pretty much saying, we are a bit nervous on what you have, and think our stuff isn't good enough to go at the same time. We need to see what you have so we can copy it and have it, or make it a bit better when ours comes out.

Lol... they have no time to waste, and no money to spare.
DeadlyFire  +   538d ago
Xbox 720 2013
PS4 2014

Case closed! :)
WitWolfy  +   537d ago
Probable... But not impossible either...
DeadlyFire  +   537d ago
I expect both to get announced officially at E3 this year. Sony might hold back on production until they know the final Xbox 720 specs. So they can one up them and ship a few months behind. E3 we will see some impressive visuals either way.
" "Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?""

ps4 > wiiU already. Why?
http://www.nintendolife.com...

They got all the info they need. Smart move sony smart move.

Sony lost marketshare mostly because of price.
They most likely want to make a more powerful system for same price as xbox.
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nirwanda  +   538d ago
They have already shown it if you beleave vgleaks.com
hesido  +   538d ago
I think it is not something that is as simple as letting them make the first move, as if they can react to it and make big changes, they can't, at this point. I think they will roll it out as soon as possible.
3-4-5  +   538d ago
That means they aren't ready...If they do this they get extra time so they can actually launch a functional product.

I think we will hear about both of them within 2-3 weeks of each other.
ABizzel1  +   538d ago
I don't think it'll be like last year. I think it's more so to see exactly what they need to put into their box to compete with the Xbox 1080.

For example the rumored specs for the PS4 are:

1.6GHz AMD Jaguar 8-Core CPU
AMD 7950M or AMD 7970M-
4GB GDDR5

That's a pretty powerful console and basically a high end gaming laptop (excluding Xfire), but there's still more that can be done to beat that, so if MS comes out with a console that does Xfire, or use better tech then Sony may have time to react and add what they need to stay competitive from a technological standpoint.

Smart, but risky. I would just build my console to be the best it can be, and go ahead and plan a strategy for how to get the most out of my hardware for another 10+ year cycle (1st party exclusives, Gaikia, PS+, PS Home V2, etc...)

But hardware wise I guess they could improve the CPU clock (which could also be done by firmware update).

Add a better GPU (the rumors has a 7950M or under-clocked 7970M, so getting a 7970M+, or finding a way to do Xfire without heating issues could help.)

Or more RAM (4GB GDDR5 for games and 2GB GDD3 for system).
dboyman  +   537d ago
Yes Sony more RAM is needed. 8GB GDDR5 I recommend....
AngelicIceDiamond  +   538d ago
@Walker I dunno about you but I prefer Sony & MS to share the market. Instead of having it one sided.
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IAmLee  +   538d ago
snd now.. we play the waiting game...
cjflora  +   538d ago
Sony will win this generation hands down. The winner isn't who sells the most in the beginning, but who sells the most over time.

Sony built the PS3 to be valid for 10+ years and people will still be buying them long into the future and they will continue making money with it. People were still buying PS2's like crazy until a few years ago.

The console generations aren't sprint races, they are a marathon and Sony sets a reasonable pace for themselves to ensure they finish well.
GribbleGrunger  +   538d ago
Why have people disagreed with this? How many times does Sony have to say outright that they have a ten year lifecycle (and prove it) before people actually get it? How many times does Sony have to say 'it's not a sprint it's a marathon' before people start to understand their long term strategy? It's not as if what they say and what they do isn't what happens. It beggars belief that this industry (including so called experts) just don't understand it, especially when Sony spell it out every damn year and during every damn console/handheld launch. Sony must sit there scratching their head at such stupidity.
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nukeitall  +   538d ago
Exactly!

This generation with Xbox 360 and PS3, Sony released a year afterwards. When it was released, they were behind on their online network and after 7-years, they still don't have cross game chat.

Sony then released PS Vita after 3DS, and well the story is pretty similar. 3DS sales are rocking and PS Vita is dropping.

So what is going to be different this time?

Remember when Sony was the leader, not the follower?

The entire industry is turning on it's head, Nintendo and MS is the leader and Sony is the follower completely opposite of last generation with GameCube, PS2 and Xbox.

Well Sony, I have a tip for you! Who wins next generation is more likely to do with what you already planned and which of you is more agile in management than the long run.

In fact, for several generations the most powerful console has not won the console war.
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gumgum99  +   538d ago
@Walker

Microsoft going first was only half the reason the PS3 dun goof'd. The other is price.
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die_fiend  +   537d ago
Excellent strategy if you want to sell the least consoles. Haven't Sony just learnt this lesson?
bluetoto  +   537d ago
Releasing last was not what put them in the red, at least not the biggest reason. Releasing at such an insane price was. Only diehard sonyboys were spending $700 on a console.

The 360/wii hasn't sold as much as it has because it's the better console but because they have always been cheaper.

Most gamers are consumers first and people are ALWAYS going to buy the cheaper system when buying a console as a gift. (MS did a great job at fooling these people into thinking the 360 was cheaper until you add all it was missing, wi-fi,pay-to-play, etc...

It's one of the quiet reasons why this gen has some of the worst fanboys. Many bought/received a 360 because they couldn't afford a ps3.

Normal gamers just accepted this and saved up or waited for a better ps3 price while enjoying their 360 in the meantime. (my group)

Others however feel embrassed that they couldn't afford the other system and have to constantly find ways to validate only owning the lesser of the two.

This last group will disappear next gen if the two consoles have similar prices.
TBONEJF  +   537d ago
And they NEED THEIR SALES in their pockets. Look how they market the PS2 they launch first before SEGA with dream cast & original Xbox 1 and they buy LOTS OF EXCLUSIVE titles like GTA, FF etc. But they only focus on BLU-RAY & their HDTV line up. they really need to market the shit out of the PS4.
showtimefolks  +   537d ago
release a system at $600-500
don't have many games within 1st year
psn service not great at start
gives ms a year ahead start at a lower price point

and in 2013 ps3 passes xbox360 sales wise after xbox had a great holiday season

sony started delivering exclusives left and right while forza,halo,gears and fable did the job for ms

psn/plus great service and psn still free yet xblive is still better service(only thing missing in psn is cross game chat which will come with ps4)

if sony makes a quality product which they do most of the times and have great software support for it up front than it will do fine no matter if it comes out 2 months before or 10 months after the next xbox

i still do believe both sony and ms will release their next consoles in fall 2013. There are a lot of thing MS did right and gained a big market share but let's also not act like ps3 failed when its on pace to be the highest selling system this gen too just like ps1 and ps2.

because we take sides is why publishers always take advantage of us, we don't say nothing when we should because its our favorite game series or favorite company. MS showing next to no games in last 2-3 years at E3 yet every year it was did MS win E#? i mean didn't we watch the same showing or did some fanboys get to see some exclusive stuff?

bad E3 but gives away free xbox360's slim and all of the sudden ms won E3?
Mounce  +   537d ago
But Sony said they knew from their first mistakes that they never wanted to be Last to the race again ;O CMON SONY...

This better be a Bait-and-switch tactic in which you make people believe you're coming in late, then pull out fast and go AWWW SKEET SKEET SKEET!!! and blast us all in the faces and tell us we're all skanks and that PS4 is OUT!

The question is, would it sell better coming before the 720? Is Wii U being seen as competition at all, or same as 360/PS3 to the Wii and that it is just 'There' but not competition?
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iamnsuperman  +   538d ago
Fairly smart really. What he is saying is we are not going to announce now and give Microsoft time until E3 to improve/adjust their product. Nintendo have shown their cards which both Sony and Microsoft can adjust to that. Obviously it isn't major changes but borrowing the odd idea isn't such a big thing. Sony will announce when Microsoft do and no sooner or not much later than that.
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MYSTERIO360  +   538d ago
Totally agree Sony are playing it smart, i just hope they don't release it so late like they did this gen. They need to finish everything hardware wise this time
hazardman  +   538d ago
I agreed with you but to think that if sony announces 1st that MS would somehow do a complete overhaul is ridiculous. That would mean delays and before you disagree or agree look it from a business sense and not a gamer or fanboy. From what we've been reading rumours have them with almost similar spec with PS4 being slightly more powerful and Xbox3 I guess putting all their chips on kinect. So whoever announces 1st wil be ok. I just need an announcement and a release date so I can preorder already.
iamnsuperman  +   538d ago
O no I agree but it will be more minor things (mainly software related) that is easily copied and improved on. Also price. Microsoft could set out to undercut Sony if Sony unveil its price to early. Things like this need to stay secret until as late as possible and that is really what he is talking about
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kenshiro100  +   538d ago
I agree with this. Sony isn't stupid at all. They know what they're doing.
NYC_Gamer  +   538d ago
I believe both 720/PS4 will be very close in performance with features and exclusives being the real difference
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Conzul  +   538d ago
That's how it *should* be.
aquamala  +   538d ago
I agree, with both using off the shelf PC components, I think we'll see very few third party exclusives, it should be easy to port between these 2.
-Falaut-  +   538d ago
I am of very strong opinion that we're not seeing a successor to the PS3 this year. Microsoft's next console, yes. Sony, no chance.

And if I'm wrong I'll... I'll *looks around* drink this beer.
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Liquid_Ocelot  +   538d ago
You cheater!
stefan771  +   537d ago
I don't think we will microsofts next one either
Veneno  +   537d ago
I dont know. If microsoft gets another head start this next generatiin they could create an even bigger lead than before that Sony has to catch up to. I think Sony knows that and will launch more stategically. But Sony messes up a lot so who really knows?
Vandamme21  +   538d ago
I'm really looking forward to ps4..can't say the same about Xbox 720..I'm not interested in gears or halo...Microsoft needs to anounce some new ips. The reason why got an Xbox 360 was because of ninja gaiden 2.
Tiqila  +   538d ago
i want ps4
OhReginald  +   538d ago
but microsoft was waiting for sony to announce the ps4 first. I guess neither of the companies will announce their consoles now....
Prodigy-X  +   538d ago
They said let Microsoft have the first move but not the first to release. You get the clue ;)
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adorie  +   538d ago
Oh, I think this gen is going to be so dirty, we're going to have to wear protective suits just to read the articles.
Tzunoy  +   538d ago
Sony develops games in their computers with Microsoft software. :)
OhReginald  +   538d ago
linux
Liquid_Ocelot  +   538d ago
Ouch! :)
sonic989  +   538d ago
correct
hazardman  +   538d ago
They're probably using Macs
WitWolfy  +   537d ago
MGS 4 was probably made with a Mac.. They display the MAC Pc's just about everywhere in the game lol
EffectO  +   538d ago
It certainly worked well for Vita in Japan,lol
WetN00dle69  +   538d ago
I see SO that means that in case the new xbox has better specs than the Ps4 they can go back and modify their system a bit to beat the new Xbox. Good move Kaz.
Consoldtobots  +   538d ago
im not sure im a big fan of this whole tit for tat approach between the big 2. That just turns it into alot of overlap when it comes to games. IMO you need to have a vision of what level of gaming experience you want to deliver to the end user, future proof the design for the next 10 or so years and then start production gearing towards an in store date. This would totally cutoff MS from copying everything you do and force them to make choices in order to compete.

In short im saying, STOP announcing your system specs that many months or even a year ahead of time giving your opponent time to design up to your platform.
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DivineAssault  +   538d ago
im pretty sure the dual shocks will remain compatible but a new touchscreen controller seems inevitable.. All the blu rays have dual screen extras & features so its coming in one way or another.. As long as its simple & only used for HUDs, Maps, inventory, etc for games, it would work just fine.. No need for full gameplay on the screen or a massive pad controller.. Just a simple screen big enough to see things & small enough not to distract.. Menu navigation & other small additions to gameplay mechanics would work just fine w/o investing too much into the crazy ideas nintendo is doing..

Ive played all the castlevanias on DS as well as Zelda OOT on 3DS & the real time maps & inventory navigation is the only good thing a second screen is good for.. Menu navigation similar to tablets might work well too.. I just hope that battery life isnt an issue if it has a big LCD screen on it.. & that rumble functions arent sacrificed..

What he said still doesnt mean he will let MS make the first move.. He was probably referring to nintendo. I doubt there will be enough resources in their budget to make changes this late in development...
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Dlacy13g  +   538d ago
Anyone thinking this move would give them time to adjust hardware is delusional. This is just a marketing move/pr stunt. I am betting Sony is really hoping MS holds off on announcing til E3. I dont think Sony wants this next gen race to start yet. The longer its delayed the more they will be ready for their unveiling. I think they really want to do another e3 like with the ps3. Announce a year out and then launch the following year. The longer ms waits the more time they have. Plus with the wiiu not setting the world on fire Sony has to feel good about their current situation.
Tonester925  +   538d ago
Save the best to last.
jay2  +   538d ago
Erm, odd stuff not good that it's not going to be March.
CatXFlash  +   538d ago
At this rate phones and tablets will catch up and the Cloud will evolve with Nvidia's Grid... hurry the F%$# up SONY and MS.
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JBSleek  +   538d ago
Assuming Microsoft won't have the same hardware hiccups and has a brand recognition now I think letting them have a year or more ahead is kinda interesting.

Sure you can have more powerful hardware marginally and Sony has some pretty cool exclusives but it has almost been 8 years since the last generation.

And Microsoft has one of the most aggressive advertising budgets in technology.

But not gonna count Sony out of course. I say both will have about equal market share just as this generation.
dcbronco  +   538d ago
Even if Sony waited another year I'm not sure they could catch MS on power. I believe MS will have a fully functioning HSA chip. Or as close to it as anyone will have in 2013. And HSA will increase the power of that console 2 or 3 times if not full HSA. SOny will have some HSA capability because that is the route AMD is moving to. But AMD works with Microsoft on HSA and it's Microsoft engineers that are pushing the tech. Because of that I believe Microsoft will have an advantage. AMD doesn't have a full HSA chip on their roadmap until 2014.
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scissor_runner  +   538d ago
Now that is a topic worth talking about.
dcbronco  +   538d ago
I think both companies will announce very soon. It is well passed time for new consoles. And like Darcy said, there is no room for changing hardware much. The best they could do was add RAM or something if they want to launch this year. And they need to launch this year. Sony hurt themselves last generation by pushing Blu-ray on gamers. The cost of Blu-ray won't be a problem this time. That mistake allowed Microsoft to gain a strong footing in the industry. So now they just have to launch the best thing they can now and fight it out.
FlyingFoxy  +   538d ago
well i have my PC for FPS games, since MS use Rare's talent for Kinect and not real games like Conker, i say screw em.. Xbox has too many boring FPS games now and they are much better on PC. so i may get PS4 because the Vita is an awesome handheld.
matrixman92  +   538d ago
idk what u are talking about...the only fps games exclusive to 360 are Halo and perfect dark zero to my knowledge lol
schlanz  +   538d ago
because that strategy worked so well last time
cjflora  +   538d ago
They're doing fine. Don't be a tool.
Hicken  +   537d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but DESPITE releasing LATER and at a HIGHER price point, isn't Sony right on Microsoft's heels in terms of units sold?

And that's assuming they haven't already PASSED Microsoft, which could well be the case.

Oh, and let's not forget that, yes, SOME sales will have been lost- particularly early on- to the PS2, which Sony has also been fielding for the majority of this generation.

Not to say that some things couldn't have been better, such as early game support and a more appealing online offering. However, all things considered, I'd say yeah, the strategy worked pretty well.
sandman224  +   538d ago
Well, that settles it on who will come out first. Looks like ill be getting the next Xbox first. Now Microsoft don't let this be an excuse to delay the release of your next console.
richierich  +   538d ago
This might make MS hold back from announcing the next xbox
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   538d ago
Feels like High Noon. *Glances at clocktower at 1 minute to midday* lol
PS3gamer4life  +   538d ago
Who cares who comes out 1st who go have games to play
KMCROC54  +   538d ago
If MS does go first they best make sure they have patents on everything they go to show announce or even hint at. Also make sure the writing is crystal clear & understandable. So no can dance around it. Dying to see what they present.
LOL_WUT  +   538d ago
If he's talking about unveiling their next console after Microsoft have done theirs then I see no problem but, in terms of releasing then Sony is in big trouble.
HonestDragon  +   538d ago
Waiting to see what a rival company will do is a good move, but at the same time, Sony will need to be active in giving information about their next projects, too. Staying back can be a good tactic, but being informative will help potential customers as well and I wouldn't worry about specifications.

I've always found people only base their next-gen purchase on specifications, which I find ridiculous. People tend to put too much emphasis on what a console is made of. I just hope that Sony will be able to have a better start in this generation than the last one.
adorie  +   538d ago
It is a good move, ONLY if they release close to Microsoft, 1-3 months tops, or we could have a repeat on our hands, then again, it's hard to say... anything could happen.

This is quite exciting!
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cleverusername  +   538d ago
How could they possibly think that'd be an advantage!! They've been playing catch up all gen!!
cjflora  +   538d ago
They have been catching up the whole time, meaning even though they started later they've been gaining because they're selling more consoles. Regardless of what the current totals are Sony is selling more month to month and catching up, eventually taking the lead. I have a feeling that as soon as the next Xbox comes out sales will virtually stop, whereas PS3's will continue to sell.
GribbleGrunger  +   538d ago
Yep, and even if Sony release a year later they won't have the cost of Cell or Blu-ray development to factor into the price. This means that the PS4 will probably release at a similar price to the 720 which is a completely different situation to this gen.
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