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Iwata weighs in on cloud gaming again, has latency concerns

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata was asked to discuss cloud gaming during a previous financial results briefing. At the latest meeting, Iwata commented on the topic once again.

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MNGamer-N4014d ago (Edited 4014d ago )

Ha. I am imagining hitting the jump button, then a minute later, it jumps. It's already frustrating enough fighting my TV's video lag, I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to add another layer of lag. I think Nintendo is right on waiting this one out, and letting Sony do the legwork.

isarai4014d ago

Well i used to use Gaikai quite often back when they were just a cloud gaming service, and honestly while there was still some latency, it wasn't too bad. In fact most of the time i completely forgot i was even gaming on a cloud service. Even so it's not like it's being used primarily for cloud gaming on the PS4, in fact that seemed to be the lowest priority for using it, mostly it seems they are using it for social features.

dumahim4014d ago

Really? I thought they made it clear that this was how they would allow people to play previous generation PS games on the PS4.

isarai4014d ago

@ dumahim

It was never confirmed, it was more of an idea that could possibly be implemented

dumahim4014d ago

Actually, they did cover this in the reveal.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013...

guitarded774014d ago

Sony's "legwork" will end up working out to patent after patent which will put Nintendo so far behind in the game. Kinda like how they have had to start from scratch with Nintendo Network. Still, I don't think cloud would benefit Nintendo right now, with the exception of backing up data.

specialagent45324014d ago

Meaning using a cloud gaming service as an alternative to a hard drive.

Godmars2904014d ago

Like they did with disc based over cartridges?

Yeah, that worked out really well for them... :/

dumahim4014d ago

Yeah. Like the PS3 controller lag on Pinball Arcade. I think the developer said it's like a 1 frame delay, but it's still noticed and affects your reaction time. I'm sure it'll work fine for some titles though.

specialagent45324014d ago

Yeah but letting Sony do the legwork will mean by the time Nintendo releases it's cloud gaming. Sony will be miles ahead and Nintendo will end up getting critized for having an outdated cloud gaming service.

DeadlyFire4013d ago (Edited 4013d ago )

I think you mean Microsoft/Sony doing the leg work. Sony knows bandwidth is the major issue with it so they are waiting. Microsoft has already hinted Cloud gaming.

Maybe with 25 or 50 Mbps it could be possible nearly flawless. 100 Mbps and higher likely would be the sweet spot for Cloud tech. If you lived in the dial up era of multiplayer gaming then Cloud gaming might be for you! As it would see lag similar to those games in some cases.

Nintendo might need Cloud gaming. So they could reach out to it at some point. OnLive/OTOY are open to new partners I believe.

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lilbroRx4014d ago (Edited 4014d ago )

I wish people would stop trying to force one companies ideas and methods onto others. I have no interest in large scale gaming over a network. I want to physically hold and own what I purchase.

I'm so tired of people saying Nintendo should do "X" like *insert* is doing. Most of them only ask for things like that because they want to have Nintendo act under their preferred companies shadow, read "be subservent" instead of doing new things,(which seems to upset/anger a lot of people.)

The only change I want from Nintendo is for them to start releasing more games. The rest of their business practices are just fine.

LightofDarkness4014d ago (Edited 4014d ago )

Except for them tying digital purchases to physical machines instead of user accounts, which is a pretty pathetic omission in this day and age. There's no point blazing down that trail, we all know it won't lead us anywhere good.

I agree with the most of your sentiment, though. It's just that there's a point, where in the name of self-reliance and unique vision, you become simply myopic and outmoded when compared to your competition, and this has been true of many facets of Nintendo's previous efforts. And to say that it hasn't harmed them in any way is outright denial, in many cases.

Sticking to cartridges saw them lose out on many third party developers with the N64.

Insistence on a proprietary and smaller disc format saw them miss out on more support with the Gamecube.

Skimping on the online and high definition (as well as a standard pad controller) saw the Wii left in the dust this generation within 3 years.

While they often innovate and take some steps forward, they'll just as often take steps back that cause them to essentially stagnate, moving nowhere at all. The Wii U is sowing the seeds of everything they've done wrong since the Super Nintendo: they've opened the doors to the third party developers and those developers simply don't care at this point. Too little, too late.

I quite like my Wii U, but it NEEDS GAMES NOW. And it needs to update its policy on digital purchases or once again face being left behind by more mature business models that better cater to consumer needs.

specialagent45324014d ago

No Nintendo doesn't need TV services or having two versions of wii u. Besides new ips, innovative games it had the golden opportunity to have wii u games playable at the DMV office, the park, etc. Making the first console /handheld system. A true innovation in video game history beating beating it's competition to the punch. Brought back map editors, alternate paths, free unlockables for its games along with offline multilayer out smarting its rivals by proving that online is not the end all be all. Plus offering remastered collector editions of last generation titles at $40.00 like the Zelda collection (wind waker majora mask, twilight princess, skyward sword). Along bringing glassles 3D technology and augmented reality to the gamepad. See sometimes you have to think outside the box....

klecser4014d ago

If anything is true of the last 20 years of tech, it is that there have been a lot of promises and not a lot of delivery.

Cloud gaming SOUNDS great on paper, but when you get into the practice of internet infrastructure, it will be full of problems.

Mark my words: Someone will debut cloud gaming and it won't work properly. People will voice this and the reply of the company will be: "Well, I guess you should get better internet access."

Cloud gaming is an idea that caters to only the gamers that can afford the best equipment and infrastructure. It is an exclusionist technology push.

CouldHaveYelledUiiW4014d ago

3 great comments above me,
what more can I say?

MNG "Int"
lilbro "Well Said"
klec "Int"

ATi_Elite4014d ago

CLoud Gaming Sounds great but it's more of a gimmick than something good.

LAG is the killer and there is NO way to get rid of the LAG.

With most games going MP you got LAtency and player LAG so the Cloud is just not capable to handle all that.

selling a few SP only games through the cloud is about it.

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Megaton Musashi World Cup: Preview and First Round Results

Game Rant participates in the Megaton Musashi World Cup, checking out the game a little bit beforehand and winning the first round match.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 2h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning775h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga12h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218311h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan6h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus235h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv725h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10115h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos14h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-4h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac14h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10113h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic11h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein1d ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno20h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k419h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson18h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu19h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson18h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -