Nintendo Wii U has Already Won the Next Generation Console War

Tynan Muddle at Aussie-Gamer.com writes: "Like it or not, Nintendo's latest home console Wii U has already won the "next generation" of video game hardware.

It's no secret that the Wii U has had a rocky start. Fire up almost any video game website out there and you will come across hundreds of articles about how the console has "doomed" Nintendo forever, how the lack of video game releases is a bad omen, or how some developer has a problem with the hardware architecture.

But those issues are all but behind the biggest video game publisher in the world. The future looks bright for both Nintendo and Wii U, even with new consoles from Sony and Microsoft breathing down its neck.

Here's why I feel Nintendo Wii U is not only out of the woods, but has cemented its spot as number one console for the next generation."

[majiebeast]

Wow this is some delusional shit right here.

Lets face the facts, the WiiU is selling much less then the Gamecube ever did and tracking far below the ps3 and 360 1 of those at a price tag of 600$. The wiiU would be lucky if it sell 20million in 4 years at the pace its going. Last month it sold 66K and that was 5 weeks, thats less then February if you count per week and that with 2 big releases.

People know it exists just nobody cares. Retailers would rather take a hit on price here in Europe, then have it take up warehouse and shelf space i havent seen that happen with 360 or ps3 or even the vita and 3DS.

Third party devs are just shunning it completely. Criterion has said they will not be making anymore NFS games on WiiU and that it was a waste of resources. Even Fifa seems to be skipping the WiiU i have never seen a console/handheld not get a fifa game.

[AKR]

The Wii U only appears to be struggling behind the PS3/360, when looking at weekly sales. But if you take a look at lifetime sales, for the time period of the first 5 months, the Wii U is selling at the same pace as the 360/PS3.

2.) Nobody seemed to care about the 3DS either when it was released. But after MK7, Super Mario 3D Land, and Resident Evil: Revelations, the system took off and now it can't stop topping the charts. Wii U can have a similiar rebound once N brings out the big guns.

3.) When did Criterion EVER say ANY of what you just spouted? Please, show me the article. Alex Ward just said he and the team want to work on something other than racing games. That goes for ALL the systems they're developing for.

3.) Ignored by third-party devs? Not entirely. Let's see who's supporting Wii U right now: Activision, Ubisoft, Crytek, SEGA, Atlus, Criterion, WB Games, TT Games, just to name a few off the top of my head . . . .

The only delusional one here is you. Wii U has much of a chance as winning as the PS4 or 720. Nobody can tell the future, so I'm not going to say the author is down-right correct. But even so, all consoles go through the pains of infancy, especially the first console for a new generation. Look at PS3, for example. Although it was the second to release, it was still considered to be more doomed than the X360 (and a little less than the Wii).

It was considered DoA. Now look at it? It took about 2-3 years to really wakeup, but it did. But according to all the articles at the beginning of it's lifetime, it wasn't supposed to be where it is now.

[HammadTheBeast]

People cared about the 3DS after its MASSIVE price drop. Wii U only makes a profit if a customer buys a game as well. It can't afford the massive price drop.

And as of now, it's the sole competitor on the next Gen race, and just think of the massacre once the other consoles release.

[Anon1974]

Actually, I agree with his first point. The Wii-U is selling about on par with what the PS3/360 managed in their first six months. Of course, the PS3 wasn't available worldwide in those first two quarters reported, but still. I see what you're saying.

I think it's far too early to count the Wii-U out yet, but the fact that it'll have to face off against two brand new consoles in another few months doesn't bode well.

[Ausbo]

I think the only games that will really move A LOT of consoles is the next zelda and big mario game. Where are they Nintendo?

[specialagent4532]

Ubisoft and Sega are the only ones. Were is Crysis 3 for the wii u, Bioshock infinite, tomb raider, dishonored, etc. No third party game developers no longer want to work with propetiary architecture they want to work with x86 architecture. Nintendo has not released a game yet except for Super Mario brothers u. The PS4 is not only a powerful upcoming console, is also easy to develop for and is coming with an improved online gaming service. Is getting the indie support. Man at the moment the PS4 is the one most likely to outperform it's competition. I am not sure about the 720 but I will wait for E3. Nintendo needs to step it's game up.

[cee773]

extremeazure
"The Wii U only appears to be struggling behind the PS3/360, when looking at weekly sales. But if you take a look at lifetime sales, for the time period of the first 5 months, the Wii U is selling at the same pace as the 360/PS3"

As time goes by this excuse about selling on par with ps3 becomes invalid.

http://www.roughlydrafted.c...

Do you see wii u selling 6 million by June?

[kneon]

"The Wii U only appears to be struggling behind the PS3/360, when looking at weekly sales. But if you take a look at lifetime sales, for the time period of the first 5 months, the Wii U is selling at the same pace as the 360/PS3."

That statement actually points out how bad the situation is right now. It did good numbers up front because of the pent up demand from Nintendo fans and then after that it went off a cliff. The average person doesn't seem to care about the Wii U and I don't see anything coming that will change that.

If things don't change then the Wii U is going to be a console just for the dedicated Nintendo fan. And there aren't enough of them for a successful console business.

[lizard81288]

I think third parties are binding their times they have with the current gen, since they have a bigger install base. As soon as it comes to the PS4, 720 and Wiiu, the wiiu should have a bigger install base, and those talking s*** about it (EA & Acti) will be all up in the Wiiu's business saying how great and truly next gen it is, just like they did when it was first announced....Maybe not EA, they still seem buthurt about no Origins.

[Skip_Bayless]

Few reasons why its not:
1. There's generally no hype for the WiiU
2. Market Share is not there
3. Wii U is a current generation system so compare that to 75 million 360s and 75 million PS3s.

Wii is last gen and Wii U is current gen for the last time! Why do I need to keep saying this over and over again!?

[EcoSos3]

If this is a "delusional shit" then why are you approving it?

[portal_2]

Opinion pieces are allowed on N4G, doesn't change the fact that some peoples opinions are delusional.

[MEGANE]

What? nintendo launch a next gen console already? I thought the WIIU was just a new controller for the wii.... oh my!

[dedicatedtogamers]

The "lifetime sales" bit is ignorant. WiiU sold incredibly well for the first two months then dropped off a cliff. That was partially due to people remembering the Wii and not wanting to be left out in case it was sold out. It's a marathon, not a sprint, and while it rocketed out the gates at first, WiiU is crawling on its belly right now, both in terms of sales and software support. There's no value in calling the WiiU doomed, but there's also no value in ignoring red flags, and right now we're beyond "red flags" territory and into "burning school bus screaming down the highway with children jumping from the windows" territory.

[Amphion]

Guys, the author is joking. Don't you all get it?

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Don't care for much 75% kid games. Nintendo has nothing to rival the last of us.

zelda will be good.

again.

Can't play dark souls 2, gta5, bf4, farcry 3, new bethesda horror game, metro last light, drive club, moster hunter online(lol pc only :p), rome 2 etc.

Mario galaxy is awsome but nintendo won't try hader than that.

But hey at least it's finally luigi's year!

As far as hardcore gaoming goes wiiU is dead.

ps4 7gb gddr5 ram for games = game over for any 1gb ddr3 wiiU port.

If u only want nintendo AAA (always cartoon style for some reason)games then wiiU is awsome!

Hope to see Level 5 and Naughty Dog at e3!!

[from the beach]

As far as hardcore gaming goes, Bayonetta 2 and Smash Bros. ;)

[Irishguy95]

The WiiU is starting out like the Ps3's first 2 years - Ie: it has no games and it sucks

[Eyeco]

Actually the PS3 had games, in the PS3's first year up to 100 games were released look it up, all of which averaging to 2-3 games a week on average off-course compared to the Wii-U which is averaging 2-3 games a month.

It makes no sense as to why people are comparing to the Wii-U to PS3, there in two different boats, the PS3 wasn't an underpowered system, the PS3 wasn't lacking in 3rd party support, the PS3 wasn't the only next gen system on the market, the PS3 wasn't released on an affordable price.

And even if the 2 consoles were on the same boat, that's a fail on Nintendo's behalf that rather than learn of the mistakes made by another company 6 years prior, they follow suit on that same companies mistakes.

If people should compare the Wii-U to one console, compare it to the 360 in the sense that the Wii-U is the antithesis to what the 360 was in it's first year.

[wolokowoh]

The difference is developers had a steep learning curve with PS3 and a big jump between PS2 and PS3. Wii U has the benefit of having experienced 360 and PS3 developers who are adept at learning a new platform and no one has announced anything. Then Nintendo won't hurry up with Pikmin 3 would should have been a launch game. Nintendo should have had they're crap together after their 3DS launch and instead they do far worse with the Wii U than the 3DS. At 3DS had Ocarina of Time and some other notable exclusives within the first six months. The Wii U has been stagnant since launch for first and third party, not even fighting games. Nintendo needs to get their third party support in order because they can't support Wii U alone like they did Wii because Wii U requires longer more expensive development cycles.

[OmegaSlayer]

I want the same drugs Tynan Muddle uses.
It must open the gates to a different new World no one else has seen before.
Magic

[CaptainCamper]

Wii sold more units than Xbox 360 and PS3..Fact.

[illustratedDEO]

Wii sold more shovel-ware than Xbox360 and PS3...FACT

[jairusmonillas]

Considering Wii wasn't even competing with PS3 and 360 by releasing a weak system with a gimmick controller, It failed to outsell PS2 and not to mention PS2 outsold Wii by ATLEAST 50M. FACT.

[Gamer Muzz]

I'm inclined to disagree. You call them facts, but I think you're spreading a little misinformation. Internationally the Wii U is right on par with the PS3/360 and actually sold more than either of them in their first 4 weeks respectively.
The 360 sold 940,000 in it's first four weeks.
The PS3 sold 540,000 in it's first four weeks
The Wii U sold 1.8 million in it's first four weeks.
That means it had a better launch month than either the PS3 or the 360 worldwide.
And yes, the Wii U sales have dropped off since January, But The Wii U is only about 10% behind the cumulative US sales numbers put up by the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 five months into their life cycles

You said they sold only 66K units last month? How is that possible when The NPD reports that the Wii U sold 67,000 units in the US alone from March 3 through April 6?

So yes, sales are lower, I'm not saying otherwise, but your numbers seem to be a little off and it's not nearly the doom and gloom you're making it out to be.

As for 3rd party development. Didn't the PS3 have the same issue for it's first year? Let me answer that for you. Yes, it most certainly did.
hell, it's first 2 years were pretty slim on 3rd party support as I recall.
In time, Nintendo will release more of their own outstanding franchise titles (and lets face it folks, like Nintendo or not, their first party games are always good.)sell more consoles, and get more 3rd party support.

[specialagent4532]

But most of third party games did came to the PS3. The problem wasn't lack of third party support it was third party game developers not taking advantage of the PS3 hardware. Most third party games were just 360 ports. Only Bioshock and Mass Effect did. not make it to PS3 that year. It offered next generation exclusives early on like motorstorm plus resistance fall of man. Motorstorm insane visuals at that time with the availability to see every single part of the vehicle while it crashed, mud caking on the cars or trucks. Able to have races with a semi truck, atv, offroad car, bike racing in the same race. Resistance fall of man first console game to have 40 player online feature, first fps to have the main character become the enemy. I mean the only sameness between PS3 and wii u is the constant updates, slow servers, and a barren digital store front. I sad that Nintendo did not learned the mistakes from their competitors made six years ago. Stop making excuses and feeling sorry for Nintendo. Is the corporation fault not yours for being lazy and telling you to wait and wait till they are ready to compete by then is going to be late.

[Gamer Muzz]

@specialagent4532
I don't feel the least bit sorry for Nintendo. Nor am I defending them. I'm just saying whats what.
The sales figures majiebeast eluded to were flat out wrong. I was correcting his mistake. I don't think spewing misinformation while saying it's a fact is very responsible.

I should have said 3rd party exclusives. (instead of support)
yes, they did get a lot of multiplatform titles. My problem was that the only exclusive content I was getting for the first year was In house. A lot of those titles didn't do it for me. I wasn't a fan of resistance and Hate racing games so Motorstorm means nothing to me at all.

[Bobby Kotex]

Wow, so this is turning into a daily thing on N4G. Make a ridiculous headline on some crappy gaming blog, and receive tons of hits from N4G. This exact headline was on some other site last week and N4G sheep fell for the bait.

[stage88]

I came here to laugh at the title. I'm done now. Goodbye.

[GamerToons]

"Nintendo Wii U has Already Won the Next Generation Console War"

..says the site that wants flamebait hits...

[Ddouble]

Not saying I don't believe you but do you have a link for Criterion saying NFS was a waste.

I haven't being around lately but that sounds interesting

[slapedurmomsace]

@bully...bravo, you have successfully trolled this like a sir.

[g2gshow]

i told you along time ago nintendo not to f*** with me.

nintendo will be on track after this spanking next generation if there is one as we know it . software sale an ds will keep them on the go for now

[UnholyLight]

If by Winning you mean underselling by vast amounts and an unhappy user base who do own Wii U that aren't getting enough new games...Then yes, the Wii U has won.

Logic

Not sure how this comment of mine gets labelled as "trolling" when I am purely presenting facts and the truth to what has been a rocky start for the Wii U. Who knows maybe when some of their big seller games come out in the next couple of months it will get better, but at this time, my comment holds true to the current predicament with the Wii U.

[NYC_Gamer]

Wii U doesn't offer me anything gaming wise since i'm not into Nintendo first party software

[BullyMangler]

(majibest)

you: None of the things you just listed are facts, instead they are biased opinions no facts listed. Except for father of modern gaming with the nes but you could argue that Atari was first.

ME: ummmmm hhoh! madworld on the wii . the bloodiest baths of blood to ever hit a video game. yep < fact madworld with its black and whites contrasted by red = bloodiest goriest game on earth (: then the commentators in madworld for the wii = the most mature rated audio in the history of man kind, exclusively for wii < fact ):

then the N64 with conkers bad fur day? uhh hmm.

Then gamecube with Resi 1 remake? uh huhh nuff said? orrr??

p.s. Atari having come before the NES does not mean it has better games than the NES < fact sony and microsoft compete over the meat like dogs, while Nintendo rides the sleigh. I sound like a total fanboy, but my proof here is just facts. < fact

[GamersRulz]

uhhhh hmmmm orrr huhhh

^^ those were the most sensible things you posted.

[jeeves86]

Three games out of three console cycles? That's a bit of a stretch from "the most."

[Qrphe]

" I sound like a total fanboy"
Because you are a fanboy, plus immature. And this is unrelated to anything NYC_Gamer said.

If this is a reply to majiebeast then go reply to majiebeast. Bubble down

[crazysammy]

< fact

[jcnba28]

PS4 doesn't offer me anything gaming wise since i'm not into Sony first party software

[zebramocha]

They will have other offerings other than first party stuff.

[HammadTheBeast]

Yes, but at least it has the benefit of third party :)

[_QQ_]

But not as good as pc third party games sowhats the point for him?

[SilentNegotiator]

That comeback would only make sense if Nintendo's consoles' third party support was on par with Sony's consoles' third party support, and not terrible instead.

And Ps4 is looking to be a 3rd party powerhouse, with indie devs still grumbling about the way that MS handles things and ps4 using much more standard hardware that developers understand.

[Ron_Danger]

@jcnba

So you don't like any genre of gaming?

[truechainz]

Bubs up for always just giving your opinion in an unbiased manner, but I hope that you have tried all of the games more making a very generalized statement like that. Otherwise it would be like saying your not into Italian food when you have never tasted all that it can offer.

[jc48573]

I haven't picked up one yet. I purchased the wii console later after its launch as I figured they probably had enough games for me to buy including the ones I missed out on the gamecube. My Wii library is small (about 30), but I'm glad it is cause sometimes it drives me nuts how much games I need to complete. i guess that's exactly what I'm doing right now as I'm waiting for more game announcements for the WiiU that are exclusive for that console with Bayonetta 2 being one of them. I need at least 10 good Wii U games before I head out and buy the console.

@NYC_Gamer

the problem is that the console doesn't really have a lot of first party games either, so it's kinda early for you to say that.

[NastyLeftHook0]

im buying a wii u but c'mon, really?

[ps3 haven]

LOL

[LordHiggens]

I know right?!

[cyberninja]

I love wii u, not!!!

[Parapraxis]

I LIKE my WiiU, mind you I've only used it a little bit, but it is a nice console, and I like the gamepad.
That being said, I'm sure I'll be quite happy with it when MarioKart, Metroid, new Zelda etc finally come out.
Waiting until this fall is a bummer though, had I known it was going to take this long to get even a few core Nintendo games on the system I would have waited on my purchase.

[jcnba28]

I can see this happening as history does tend to repeat itself.

[dafegamer]

just like the gamecube and n64? You're delusional if you think that a company would stay at number 1 each gen

[humbleopinion]

But recent history shows people quickly became dissapointed with the Wii, and so the brand was really tarnished. Not only that the WiiU will probably not win the next gen, it's actually losing to the current gen: sales are bad, third party support is even worse than the Wii, and first party games are yet to hit the same heights as Zelda TP, or have even fraction of the popularity of Wii Sports.

[bneals]

The writer of this opinion piece has to reduce good medication because the current levels are causing him to be delusional.

[CanadianTurtle]

Yea lets all do the smart thing and "assume" that the WiiU has already won even though the PS4 and NextXbox hasn't been released yet. It's not like those systems are going to come out with any cutting-edge/revolutionary games right?

[LordHiggens]

............LOL

[josephayal]

The wii u gonna be better than ps4 and xbox 720

[CEOSteveBallmer]

In your dreams maybe. And Wii-U is already out almost everyone knows its inside and out and the PS4 and 720 nobody knows yet. Oh Wait, Ive fed another Troll, Silly me. Haven'y Ive slain you before? When I used Fus roh dah? Oh well you guys always respawns and multiply by unholy means

[MultiConsoleGamer]

In a battle of opinions and personal taste no one is the victor.

[rextraordinaire]

Yeah. That.

[Hassassin]

NO, you're totally wrong!! (IMHO)

[DragonKnight]

*sigh* No one was won anything. Least of all the Wii U.

[torchic]

Nintendo have won so little they have a negative sign next to their wins

kidding guys don't bubble me down

[Y_5150]

It's pretty much unpredictable right now.

[Xer0_SiN]

already won? its so slow sales wise, it couldnt get out of its own way if it tried. i honestly do feel bad when the ps4 comes steamrolling out the gate because the wii u is going to get slaughtered. it cant even do things right when paired against the "last gen" ps3. and dont even get me started about technical specs, or even games. already won? already won what? the biggest joke award? lol.

[AZWification2]

U mad because the only PS4 games that will reach 10 million are the Cod games?

[Xer0_SiN]

no. im mad because nintendo released a mediocre system and tried to pass if off as next gen, when in reality it has a hard time keeping up with "last gen" systems. not to mention games. a skeleton library that wii u gamers have to resort to play virtual console remakes and mediocre ports, while sony paves the way with new and exciting ips, not to mention its vast library of games of every genre. really, nintendo is just a sad, sad shell of its former self. such a shame.

[Revolver_X_]

Gran Turismo says "Hi".

[dafegamer]

lol Gran turismo says hi

[dafegamer]

I'm planning to get the WIIU but c'mon dude, thats really delusional and premature to think that WIIU has already won the console war. WIIU is competing against the ps3/xbox and if the ps4/nextbox arrive, it will be even harder for Nintendo to keep up. Hell even NSMB(the best selling mario game with 30mio units sold for wii) couldnt even move units.

[ApolloTheBoss]

*sigh* I'm too tired for this. I am not gonna go there.

[rextraordinaire]

I don't know. I really do want a 3ds, but the wii-u for me is just... meh. Same thing as last generation. I had a whole lot of fun with my DS, with incredible games (RPG heaven for last gen), but nothing on the wii really caught my attention, except for mario party and smash bros.

But as far as party games go, I don't feel the need to buy a brand new console for those. I don't think a bunch of drunk friends would really have more fun on an hd version of mario party than on an older one.

So yeah, Nintend won't die. But it won't "win" anything either. (What a stupid choice of word to start with...)

[artdafoo]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha
!.............
(catches breath).......hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha !

[2pacalypsenow]

If the sales are weak now how do you expect them to raise once the ps4 and Xbox 3 come out

[Animavicion]

get ready to witness the magnificent chaos to be armed with the fanboys and haters, I'll get my popcorn.

[KrisButtar]

pass the popcorn, lol

[strigoi814]

lolz seriously??

[arbitor365]

gotta love these desperate nintendo fanboy articles flowing in, giving the most laughably in-comprehensive, ill informed market predictions imaginable.

talk about being the laughing stock of the gaming community.

[Tito08]

Agreed. Now that there's a huge hype & excitement around the PS4 & Xbox, there is this trend of Nintendo fanboys playing the role of journalists saying how the "Wii U already won" now the new one being "Wii U better than PS4, Xbox & PC". It clearly shows desperation at it's best, & talking about the same Super/Paper/New Mario, Mario Kart/Party/Sports/Golf/Tennis/ Baseball/Soccer, Smash Bros, Zelda & Pokemon as if that's all this fanboys know about.

I honestly don't understand how those little Mushroom Kingdom children doesn't get tired playing the same old crap over & over, just like the COD crowd. Also one thing to blame is the gaming media, because they either let Nintendo get a free pass or get away with anything they please, & as if it's taboo to dislike Nintendo. Also the media, the fanboys & Nintendo themselves are at fault for the poor & abysmal 3rd party game support & sales. I believe as long as Sony & MS keeps supporting their current gen consoles, I don't think Wii U will be that dominant, this coming next gen will be all about Sony & MS all over again, Nintendo is clearly out of the picture, & those Ninboys can disagree all they want, not gonna change my mind at all.

[truechainz]

"Also one thing to blame is the gaming media, because they either let Nintendo get a free pass or get away with anything they please, & as if it's taboo to dislike Nintendo."

Are you kidding? Like seriously this would literally have to be the first article you have ever read to believe that crap. The game media definitely deserves blame, but you are high if you think they are too soft on Nintendo. (or any of the companies for that matter)

[Tito08]

@ Truechainz- Then you have being living under a rock, don't you see how often Nintendo gets praised? Their rehashed Mario games getting a high score no matter what, while they give lower scores to other games for the same reasons, the media gives Nintendo the most free passes, there's even people in the industry who recognized how the gaming media is biased towards Nintendo, they get very soft when it comes to Nintendo. Of course there's negatives here and there, but not as often as MS or Sony, don't you make it sound is if Nintendo are victimized, because clearly they're not since they like to play the safe game, and the media saying how "awesome" is the 3DS and how the Vita is too "expensive" after Nintendo promptly dropped the price, when it was priced the same, isn't that bias? So who's high now?

[MasterCratosKong66]

@tito08

Gaming media is a bandwagon game that is all. The media was constantly calling the 3ds a failure even after the price dropped until the sales picked up. Also he said that Nintendo and the other companies all are victimized not just Nintendo. Every company has its fanboys, but you act like Nintendo gets a free ride when you had to have seen at least three doom articles just on the page where you saw this one.

@truechains

I agree but maybe simmer down a little

[jcnba28]

I know right?! I mean all of the "Sony has already won next gen" articles are totally legit! Only the Nintendo ones are wrong!

LMAO

[kirbyu]

Good stuff.

[grayfoxx881]

I like Nintendo, and once the WiiU has a new Zelda and 3D Mario I'll pick one up. This article is way off, though.

[AKR]

I find it amazing how when someone writes an opinion piece about them thinking the Wii U will come out on top, it's complete, laughable, delusional taboo.

Yet had the title been switched with "PS4", 80% of these comments would be consisting of: "Why of course it would win!"

Interesting, quite interesting. Either way, much to early to call anyone a loser or a winner. Only one 8th-gen console is on the market, one hasn't even been officially confirmed yet, while we've only seen as much as the controller of the other.

[JeffGUNZ]

I prefer the 360 over the PS3 and I still would think the PS4 has a 100X better chance of outdoing the Wii U. The Wii was a fad a most people who are not into gaming are not going to invest in the Wii U when they already stopped playing the Wii 3 weeks after they got it. The wii U launch is less than stellar and I hear no one in my actual life talking about it or actually considering it to be a real competitor.

[AdvanceWarsSgt]

The Sony fanboys will disagree. but you're 2000% correct.

N4G has and will always be a pro-Sony site.

[imXify]

As the other guy said we can tell what will happen.

For now I say that this holiday will favor the PS4/720.

^ this sentence may change at E3.

[Bathyj]

Desperation is a stinky Cologne.

[iMaim]

This is some Kotaku level rubbish right here.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Not even sure Kotaku would put this out there.

[Jek_Porkins]

I think it's obvious some people care way too much how many consoles one company sells. Why worry about it? We don't see any money for sales, I say if you enjoy a console, then enjoy it and stop worrying about sales and things like that.

The day we stop actually caring about the games, is the day we should all probably stop gaming.

[CoryHG]

i'm convinced that these sites get all their contributors to approve these articles immediately.

[wishingW3L]

most small sites are like that, it's not new. They have accounts on N4G and they approve their own articles no matter how many reports they have, even dupes and spam.

[GoldenElf]

You're wrong, that's not how we roll.

Some sites, maybe. Not ours.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

LOL. ... Ok. ...WiiU won already. Sure. ... LOL

[whamlollypop7]

Nintendo fanboys are just encouraging.

[deafdani]

Please, this shit isn't exclusive to Ninty fanboys. All fanboys can be ridiculous. I'm a Nintendo fan, and this article embarrass me, so don't talk in such broad terms.

[whamlollypop7]

This was a fantasy article about nintendo thus then it would be foolish to bash sony or microsoft. You my friend are a sensitive fanboy.

[deafdani]

It is foolish to talk trash about Sony and Microsoft, I agree, and it's also foolish to throw all the Nintendo fans in the same sack, and that's why I'm calling you out.

If that makes me a sensitive fanboy in your eyes, so be it, it doesn't make what I said any less true.

If you look a couple posts below, you'll see that I actually called out this article because of its stupid fanboyism.

[AdvanceWarsSgt]

You shouldn't bother. Responding to the anti-Nintendo crowd is about as productive talking to a wall.

[Crillvirus81]

I agree it has won allready and it will sell the most this holiday come on what can they come out with that will beats nintendos triple threat Mario kart, Mario 3d, and Zelda and dont let smash come out this year cause that game sells consoles plus what ever 3rd party stuff they show at e3 so while ms and Sony are trying to sell there consoles and get every thing in order nintendos allready there with there guns drawn lol plus you know they going to drop the price once they announce there prices

[deafdani]

While the article actually raises a few pretty good points, its validity goes right down the drain with its sensationalist headline and introduction, where it puts, in a matter of factly way, the Wii U as the reigning champion of a console generation that hasn't even fully started yet.

I'm a big Nintendo fan, but this embarrass me. I think these kind of articles are just as bad as the "Wii U is doomed" ones. They go to the extremes in order to defend or take a shit on the console, and neither is good.

Do you fancy yourself a games journalist? Then, for fuck's sake, behave like one, and work under a minimal set of moral standards. Being objective should be your first priority. Yes, of course there will be always be a trace of subjectivity on everything we think and write, because we as human beings will always have some personal preferences, but that's no excuse to go on full-on retarded fanboy or full-on retarded hater mode.

HERE'S THE FACTS: we're not full on the next generation of consoles yet. Yes, the Wii U has started it, but the other two big contenders have yet to enter the market, and one of then hasn't even beenannounced yet.

Yes, the Wii U probably will have some advantages to having entered the market first, as the article pointed out, but it's still barely four months in and with a lot of issues still in need to be addressed. We don't know what kind of issues the next Xbox and Playstation consoles will face when they get released, so we can+t judge jack shit about them.

This next generation of consoles is going to last at least 5 or 6 years, maybe more. That's qute a long time, and ANYTHING can happen in that period. The Xbox 360 was released a good full year before the Wii and PS3, yet it's set to end up in rock-solid third place (if it isn't already) in total sales. Who are we to say something similar won't happen with the Wii U? It goes both ways. The gaming market can actually be pretty unpredictable.

Lastly: why the fuck should we, as gamers, care who ends up in first or last place? Again, I'm a BIG Nintendo fan, but I truly hope all three consoles sell well, and for all three companies to see nice profits, and deliver great games for their respective player bases. In the end, it benefits everybody, and competition is always a good thing.

(Forgive me for any misspelling issues, I wrote this on a tablet and editing is a bit of a bitch).

[McScroggz]

I have a hard time believing somebody who believes Nintendo made the Wii U because its fans had grown tired of the Wii could ever be a professional games journalist/writer. But, maybe he will learn from this article and grow.

[Kingthrash360]

hahahahahaha.....that title is hilarious...next article please.

[ziggurcat]

uh... no.

[musashiden]

LMAO... xD !!!!! wait... i fell from my chair... xD

[GraveLord]

Nope.avi

[Typical-Guy]

I have a Wii U and I respect it... But calling it next gen is just too much. It's barely better than current gen consoles. And if they do win "Next Gen" console war, I don't care as long as I have real NEXT GEN systems....

[StraightedgeSES]

Something tells me Nintendo fans didn't approve this article.

[danitanzo]

Now we know what type of articles will get the most hits on n4g... >.>

[McScroggz]

Because the Wii's hardware and software sales were very poor, Nintendo decided to create a new console to make its fans happy. Look, I'll not call you out for thinking the Wii U will end up first in the console race, but clearly the Wii U was a business move. Without trying to sound cynical or rude, it's pretty delusional to think otherwise. And even IF in some bizarro world Nintendo did make the Wii U for fans, they certainly could have given the fans a better product and more games.

[Sikct9a]

My Wii U is my expensive monster hunter machine.

[Max-Zorin]

The author was smoking California weed.

[WeAreLegion]

They don't have a prayer.

I enjoy my Wii U, but Nintendo doesn't give their first party studios enough variety and third party is essentially out, as far as real games are concerned.

[Iltapalanyymi]

hue. wii u.

[WolvesDude]

Got to be one of the daftest articles ever. Doh.

[Kingthrash360]

lol ......daftest.
2pts for that

[NeoTribe]

I cant wait until nintendo drops from the console war like sega. This console will be the death of nintendo, fact. Then the few games worth playing such as zelda will be available on xbox, pc, and ps4. Cant wait to play some zelda on my ps4 one day.

[wishingW3L]

very true. I don't even know why Nintendo are still making hardware, it's pointless. They should drop consoles, stay with handhelds and make games for all consoles.

[MasterCornholio]

This just in, I have a response from Mark Rein about this.

Reporter: Mark Rein do you believe that the Wii U has already won the war of next generation systems?

Mark Rein: Well like I said before about the Unreal 4 engine on the Wii U. Ha ha ha No.

Motorola RAZR i

[unworthyBOZO]

When third parties are not taking you seriously and you have a system with outdated hardware, its really hard to say if the wii u will be as successful, time will tell. But yeah this article is just wishful thinking.

[breakpad]

Wii U is one gen behind ..end of story..probably and the end of Wii U ,if developers decide to support it will only hurt gaming industry as it wiil keep her behind. Only Nintendo can support it and not for a long time

[Dancryer]

Hahahahah wow this article is soooo funny :) I do hope its trying to be .....

[KontryBoy706]

whoever wrote this article HAS to be trolling or in Nevernever land. Think about it... did the Wii struggle in sales like this? No! They were sold out everywhere you couldn't even find them. You had to go store to store. It had games and advertising all over the place. They even had kiosks in malls. The Wii U is opposite. There is a problem here and Nintendo has to be scrambling. When the PS4/720 comes out we will see what happens.

[PooEgg]

I used buy all of Nintendo's systems, but I had a serious problem with the Wii's controller. I gave it a chance, but discovered I hated motion control. I even bought the classic controller thinking that would make things better, but that simply meant fumbling back and forth between the two controllers to a point that I found myself feeling annoyed. It simply was not for me and so I have not touched my Wii in ages.

I will never buy another gaming system that relies heavily on a gimmick controller, so for that reason alone I won't touch the Wii U.

[MoXxXi]

And let it be known that this article has been awarded "MoXxXi's Dumbest Article of the Day 0/10 Would not Read Again" award for 4/22/2013

[brettski]

Did a democrat write this? It's all about feelings and not the real world facts

[GadgetGooch]

I don't like this article at all i love the Wii U but saying games such as Battlefield 4 will only have slightly better graphics for the next xbox/PS4 compared to current gen is just ridiculas, Is Battlefield 3 for PC only slightly better graphics than 360/PS3? No not all, Don't get me wrong what they have done on the PS3/360 is amazing but the PC version is outstanding compared to current gen and it will be the same for the next-gen too... Disappointing article.

[wlchrbandit]

The comments on that article gave me a headache...

[RevXM]

Wii U won?
No not yet.
Will it win?
I doubdt it.

1: Too similar to ps3 / 360 in terms of capabilities.
2: Too expensive in relation to its hardware.
3: Lack of 3rd party support.
4: Not a lot of 1st party games yet that people want.
5: The system is slow, a lot of loading and pauses/freezes.
6: Not very interesting as a multimedia device.
7: A lot of people dont know anything a bout it.
8: Ps4 is stealing the show and xbox rumors are hot news.

[Kidmyst]

I will not read an article for any write talking about who's won or lost the next gen until atleast 3 years after all consoles have beeon out. How can one win or lose when they have no competition? The stupid articles shouldn't get approved.

[Neko_Mega]

Ok? So does one win something when it hasn't started? Next gen can't start until the two other consoles come out and sale. Plus the last I check, the Wii U is lacking in titles.

The Wii U list list is smaller then the PS3's list at Gamestop on what you can preorder and plus. How many of those titles aren't just remakes that are year or two old that are now being put on the Wii U?

The Wii U is having a very bad time with titles and lets not forget most games want you to use the gamepad (not a bad thing to use, but sometimes I just want to use the pro controller I brought for once).

[Npugz7]

Umm NO! They have already lost the next generation!

[ceed911]

Just as disillusional as the Sony fanboys claiming the same for next and THIS generation.

[aman84r]

All this talk about winning console war.Its like listening to those religious nuts.As long as console keeps company out of red its just fine.

[Tzuno]

The only thing that can save this console are really good games and ASAP.

[illustratedDEO]

LMAO WOW could of fooled me, I find it completely unnecessary to hold my breath on that note ...man what a riot tear jerkier.(*≧艸≦)oooh Nintendo.

[fsfsxii]

I'm sorry, i'm a fan of nintendo, but the WiiU... meh, stupid
gamepad gimmick, and its weaker than the PS3 and Xbox360
Also, where are the games?? And how is it going to survive when the true next gen consoles arrive??

[grimmweisse]

Just reading through the comment section of that site. Almost as bad as YouTube comments.

[MilkMan]

I'd say its a little early to think WiiU is out of the woods.
I like all the platforms, so in my case the only winner is me. I get to play all the games i want.

Lets revisit this topic at the beginning of 2014.

[somethingstrang]

I own all three current gen consoles, and I like my PS3 the best because of titles such as Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, Journey, Last of Us. All new IPs and pretty fun to play. I like my 360 because I get to play online with my friends. I have only played on my Wii a handful of times.

I like Nintendo and the N64 was my first console. I'm just not interested in the 4th Super Smash Bros, the 11th Mario Party, or the 20th Zelda title.

Nintendo should stop trying to innovate in the hardware side and go back to making innovative games.

[Lulz_Boat]

LOL

[busytoad]

Soon as i got onto n4g.com i saw this post, I laughed so hard i almost choked on my lunch LMFAO. THis has got to be the funniest n4g post i ever seen lol,a fail console already won the next gen console war hahaha lmao.

[Orionsangel]

You have to laugh at these ridiculous delusional fanboy articles, Haha!

[contradictory]

"It was just another routine flame war on N4G. Why do they always say that before a debate? Of course it's routine, you haven't done anything yet."

[BABY-JEDI]

Congratulations ......
Now Sony & Microsoft don't have to bother with producing their new consoles...
(slow hand clap for the genius)

[Rhaigun]

Mario Kart, Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Metroid (you wish), Pikmin and SSB are all Nintendo fans have to look forward to. Its not enough, and it comes too slowly.

[Totoro17]

Even if this thing were $100, I would pass on it. I don't care for it. It's gimmicky just like it's predecessor and besides a few Nintendo key games, I couldn't care less for it. I have the Dolphin emulator which lets me play amazing GC and Wii games in beautiful 1080p which satisfies any next-gen need. Nintendo effed this one up.

[Dark5tar1]

Gotta love them flamebait articles.

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

Hilarious,

This journalist is smart- he or she really knows how to drum-up/troll-up hits.

Anti-WiiU no longer works, now all you got to do is declare WiiU victory.

IMO, it is too early to say either way. But no matter what I do not want WiiU (or any other console) to fail.

[YoloSwag]

This is ridiculous. People need to stop making AND posting these articles.