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Why Adam Orth is an idiot [The Spook House]

New Xbox requires Internet Connection? See the tweets from Creative Director of Microsoft!

Numerous sources have reported that the eighth generation Xbox device from Microsoft will require an Internet connection to work. In lieu of the disastrous SimCity launch and the fact that people simply do not want to be connected to the Internet 100% of the time to play their games, this obviously has people worried and Xbox fans are worked up.

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Gimmemorebubblez4039d ago

Microsoft, Adam Orth is a idiot! #justdealwithit

Yi-Long4039d ago

... is pretty insulting to idiots!

The guy is a clueless jackass.

darthv724039d ago

Adam-Orthed

deal with it!

dedicatedtogamers4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

This could be a troll, a bizarre troll, but a troll nonetheless. Microsoft may later show off the NextBox and say "NextBox can be enjoyed either online or offline, but if you're online, I'd like to talk to you about all the new additions to XBL..." etc etc.

And in the end, Microsoft ends up looking like a hero, even if "always online" was never true to begin with. It may sound crazy, but it would give MS a lot of free, positive press and it would swing the pendulum back their way.

silverbeld4038d ago

@dedicatetogamers

Keep on dreaming.

If this the roadmap from Microsoft it will be very sad for all gamers.

Btw you should change your nickname cause its an insult to gamers.

Pushagree4039d ago

Microsoft as a whole is an idiot. It's very clear the way the way every staff has defended the always on feature that you will have to have your internet on all the time just to play games on the nextbox.

Always on is CONFIRMED.

SilentNegotiator4039d ago

Confirmed? That's a bit much.

But it doesn't bode well for what the reality will likely be.

Gamer-Z4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

Thanks Adam Orth, I am now buying a PS4 instead the next Xbox.

#dealwithit

Jek_Porkins4039d ago

If you are swayed by one persons opinion and no facts, I highly doubt you were going to buy the next Xbox anyway.

Nobody in their right mind decides something based on rumor and speculation.

Rusty5154039d ago

He said he's buying a PS4.
#dealwithit

BlackTar1874039d ago

Jek please explain to me why you hate the ps4 so much? In another topic you said if it is always on ill just get a wii u for next gen. What could ps brand have done to you that made you hate them so much?

darthv724039d ago

oo oo I'll answer that.

I have a dislike for the PS brand because it is what killed Sega.

Actually i dont but for a while there....I did hold a grudge against them. But i'm a gaming whore and when good games come along i just have to spread my legs and accept it.

lol

Rusty5154039d ago

@darthv72 sega killed sega. Playstation just came in at the worst possible time for them.

darthv724039d ago

yeah i know. they tried to cover too many bases at the same time. in fact, they are the only company to have 6 platforms on the market AT THE SAME TIME.

Sony was starting to look like they were heading in the same direction with having 5 but thankfully, they got wise and scaled things back down to 3.

Oh and for the record...SEGA: Genesis, Cd, 32x, Saturn, Mastersystem, Gamegear were all on the market and being supported by sega in various ways until they scaled things WAY back and just went with the DC until the plug was officially pulled.

Sony was doing PS2, PSP, PS3, and took on PS Mobile AND Vita. With the retirement of the PS2 and phase out of the PSP in favor of the Vita that leaves them with the PS3 (soon PS4) the vita and their PS Mobile platforms.

Talk about be all you can be.

_FantasmA_4039d ago

He must be an angry Nintendo and M$ lover. Sony killed both of them last gen so he hates them. I'm glad I don't have to play with on PSN though so he can stay on those losing teams if he wants.

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JeffGUNZ4038d ago

Buy what you want, that's your right and I hope you enjoy whatever you get. Yet, I still have not seen any of his tweets indicating that it's a mandatory feature to play any video games. I feel like this "always on, always connected" nonsense means the system, when "turned off" will go on a low power mode and the always connected would be for instant updates of hardware/software on the HD. I bet the next box will be havily favored towards an always on connection with better features and what not, but I still don't see them not allowing someone with no internet to not play a single player game. We have also seen NOTHING from his tweets or any BS rumor article stating that. For now, we can only wait and see.

jut4204039d ago

Adam Orth, you will be fired #dealwithit

Pushagree4039d ago

He won't be fired for saying what his bosses tell him to say. He is pretty much advertising what is already a feature that they put in the Nextbox. He wouldn't be defending it if it weren't a part of the system.

jut4204039d ago

yea i don't really think he will be fired but i also don't think he was supposed to say anything just yet

LOGICWINS4039d ago

For all you know this was planned by Microsoft all along to gauge the reactions of consumers to an always on console.

jut4204039d ago

I'm sure it wasn't planned by MS to insult people who don't have internet

LOGICWINS4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

Ummm...thats EXACTLY what they want to do. They WANT to make people without Internet access feel inferior in order to influence them to get one and sign up for Gold memberships. More Gold memberships, more money for Microsoft.

Sony's doing the same thing with Gaikai and PS Plus.

Also, let me use your own argument against you. If such a LARGE 360 fanbase doesn't have Internet access, what are the chances they will know that any of this ever occurred? You underestimate how poorly informed most gaming console consumers are...even the ones that do have Internet access.

I can guarantee you that 90% (or more) of the people who buy a 720 in the fall will never know that these "insults" ever occurred.

Ilovetheps54039d ago

Did you just say that they intentionally insulted their customers? What kind of strategy is that? I don't buy products if they treat their customers like trash. If I'm giving you my money, you should treat me well.

LOGICWINS4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

Think! The more insulting/unprofessional Orth looks the less connection there is to Microsoft. The POINT of this is to make it SEEM like Orth's opinions are his own, when in fact, this may be untrue.

The more ignorant/immature an employee looks, the easier it is to make it SEEM like he has no ties to the company he works for.

While people here are calling Orth an idiot, he likely just got his Spring bonus.

Do you REALLY believe that a Creative Director for one of the most popular companies on the planet would be dumb enough to do something like this at a time thats most crucial for Microsoft?

It was planned. But of course, this is N4G where negative Microsoft news praised. No matter what REALLY happened behind the scenes, people here will naturally assume the worse possible conclusion.

"If I'm giving you my money, you should treat me well"

Your not looking at the bigger picture. Most consumers don't KNOW that they are being treated like trash. Nintendo barely churned out any worthwhile software for the Wii yet it smoked both the PS3/360 in sales. The 360 charges consumers to play online and its on track to sell 80 million units.

As I said above, you underestimate the ignorance of the modern consumer.

The majority of gamers will never know that Orth's exchange occurred.

Heisenburger4039d ago

You are really reaching there 'Logic'.

Whatever man. Be like everyone else and spread rumors based on conjecture.

You know what they say when you ASSUME.

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JohnApocalypse4039d ago

www.quickmeme.com/Always-Onlin e-Adam-Orth/popular/1/?upcoming

Jek_Porkins4039d ago

Well he's about to be an idiot looking for a job. The sad fact is that in the day and age of social media you have to be careful about what you say.

I mean if I say something it doesn't reflect what my company thinks, but it might get back to them that I feel that way and they might not like it. Best just to keep quiet about things.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7220h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18815h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio4h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning773m ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga7h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21836h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga5h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus2312m ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv720m ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10110h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos9h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac8h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1018h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic6h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 17h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 14h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 12h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 5h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 7h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 3h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 14h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 1h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 16h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 16h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 13h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 15h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 14h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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