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The Industry Versus Nintendo: Who Will Have the Last Laugh?

SuperPhillip Central writes, "The subject of this editorial comes from something that happened during the Game Developers' Conference. It featured Mark Rein of Epic Games talking about the all-new Unreal Engine 4, and addressing a question that a Kotaku reporter asked regarding whether or not Epic planned on running it on the Wii U.

From the Kotaku article:
I figured I'd ask straight-out, so during the Q&A with Rein, I did. "Will UE4 run on the Wii U?"
"Hahaha no." Rein said, with expert comedic timing. The room erupted with laughter. As the laughs died down, Rein continued: "I mean, sorry, it's not really a correct answer. We're not… we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn't disappear because of Unreal Engine 4. But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles....

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NYC_Gamer4062d ago (Edited 4062d ago )

It's not developers fault that Nintendo went the cheap route building Wii-U hardware wise

Thatguy-3104062d ago

Won't be Nintendo that's for sure. Wii was just a runaway success so I don't see why people are delusion that they will be successful again. I mean they won't do bad I predict that they will sell 40-50 million.

fatstarr4061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

what were you saying from 2006-2010 when the ps3 didn't even have 70 million sales? you were one of those in delusion? hoping for the ps3 to touch the 150 million sales that the ps2 had?

are you still in that delusion?

Nintendo will always be successful.
but to define Nintendo success you have to come up with some subjective skewed hypocritical definition.

______ console sells 1.5 mill in 3 months successful
______ console sells 2 mill in 3 months. not successful

if 1.5 million is a success, what backwards assed universe would 2 million not be a success?

its only not successful when Nintendo does it, let another company do 1/2 of what Nintendo did / done it would be a mountain of praise.

No one comments that the ds sold more than the ps2 and in less time... what do you say to that?

Nilemonitors134061d ago

It is because they love it oldschool. I still love nintendo, no nintendo no pokemon

Phil324062d ago

I didn't understand your report, as this article deals with the industry (i.e. how broken the business model is and how Nintendo screwed up royally), and really nothing to do with culture.

NYC_Gamer4062d ago

The industry tag is used for news dealing with the gaming industry not opinion pieces

Phil324062d ago

Ah. Thanks for teaching me that!

Heisenburger4062d ago

Nintendo always wins... until it doesn't.

MultiConsoleGamer4062d ago

Created by the greatest electronics genius in gaming history.

And despite its embarrassing flop its still not a billion dollar failure like some other high profile products I could mention. It's also not the most defective piece of hardware in gaming history, like another product that will go unnamed.

We could also throw hints at various Atari and Sega products, but I'm sure you already get my point.

LOL_WUT4061d ago

Maybe to Nintendo fans because to the core gamers they tend to fall behind everyone else.

lilbroRx4061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

Nintendo fans "are" core gamers.

They have higher standard than pretty much anyone I can think of. Go look at the average game that a Nintendo fan owns and you will rarely see one that looks both looks and plays exactly like the other.

They like variety in their gaming and they like high quality.

jameson123454062d ago

That is a valid point. With the Unreal Engine 4, the money it takes to make these games will be harder and harder to make back. There also seems to be a set ceiling to how much money these AAA games can make. Look at Call of Duty, it isn't really smashing the records anymore, just slightly moving past them. It's a cycle of diminishing returns.

gpturbo814062d ago

most people dont understand the money side of it. glad you do.

zebramocha4062d ago

@ jameson That's because the development cycle for pc to console in not efficient,know with the ps4 and presumably the next box this shouldn't be a problem.

Ck1x4062d ago

The cost and development teams needed to make games in general is going up, it has nothing to do with console specifics... To make these big budget titles and to get them out on time takes extremely large teams of people, even if the game is PC only these games still are expensive to make.

RFornillos44061d ago

i agree. and wasn't it epic games who mentioned that developing games for next gen will cost more than the present conditions? why do you think 3.4 million for the new Tomb Raider is still not enough to recoup sales?

although they say that next gen games will still be priced at $60 a piece, it wouldn't surprise me if they price it higher to $70-$80.

my belief is that the reason Nintendo is not announcing any price drop for the console now, is their taking their time to make that announcement once the PS4 and NextBox launches. they'll probably drop the deluxe version to $250 by then and new games would probably be reduced to $50, and if you're a parent comparing a $250 HD console with a $400-$500 console (supposed price points for PS4 and Xbox 720), chances are your wallet will be the one doing the talking.

Minato-Namikaze4061d ago

I'll probably pick up a wii-u when it's sub $100 like I did with the wii. Price isn't the main factor when I buy a games console, games are and nintendo has been lacking the last couple gens (outside a couple mainstays and surprise hits).

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno8d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."