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Battlefield 4 demo ran on an AMD Radeon HD 7990 ‘Malta’ Video Card

Battlefield 4 demo ran on an AMD Radeon HD 7990 ‘Malta’ Video Card

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majiebeast4479d ago

Seen alot of devs switching from Nvidia to AMD does anyone know why? Is it because of the Ps4,720(not confirmed),WiiU using AMD parts?

ProjectVulcan4479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

Battlefield is technically an 'AMD' supported series. That is, DICE partner with AMD graphics, and not Nvidia's TWIMTBP programme.

There was no switch.

All you are seeing is AMD ramp up their 'gaming evolved' brand to counter Nvidia's long running TWIMTBP PC program. It isn't really about the consoles, BF4 is AMD gaming evolved branded.

It is ironic really, because Battlefield 3 clearly runs better on Nvidia equivalent hardware- GTX680>7970ghz, 670>7970, 660ti>7950 etc on BF3 where other games the situation is mostly reversed.

The engine seems to favour Nvidia architecture. Wouldn't surprise me if BF4 does as well.

Hydrolex4479d ago

Nvidia is a good when it comes to making graphic cards but they are greedy and no one likes greedy people...

Winter47th4478d ago

This is unfortunate, AMD has THE worst driver-support out of the two, sometimes taking months to support a newly released game in their drivers.

DarthZoolu4478d ago

nvidia hardware does perform slightly faster but it cost a lot more, definitely not worth the cost difference compared to performance. Also AMD cards can do other stuff like bit minning. AMD Graphics Cards usually have a lot of headroom for overclocking which usually puts the performance on par with nvidia or better. driver support being better for 1 company or the other is an old fanboy argument from about 8 years ago that is no longer true.

fatstarr4478d ago

Nvidia has been beating Amd/Ati's ass for years just recently with the dual gpu cards did Ati/Amd get back into the picture.

in the end of the day it wont matter what you run it on as long as its up to the job.

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greenpowerz4479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

Financial reasons with console makers and all the related parties wanting the least hassle free experience with the console tech and makers.
http://n4g.com/news/1217454...

^^Talking only some game related parties... Not the end of the world PS3 fan doom end of the world, I hate'em rhetoric.

These new cards are powerful allowing impressive effects in BF4 although the rest of the game is familiar. Must see Multi player on any console before i judge.

Even the card I showed in my link won't match what was shown.

ginsunuva4479d ago

Where are devs "switching" to AMD, and what does "switching" even mean? They develop a game for all pc gpus.

I assume you mean you see AMD SPONSORING more devs lately? Yes, AMD is struggling in the gpu market, so they've been paying a ton of money lately to get their logo at the beginning of games instead of the common Nvidia "Way it's Meant to be Played." Just compensating for lower quality gpus, and the games they sponsor, funnily enough, run better on equivalent Nvidia cards anyways.

wishingW3L4479d ago

they sometimes take advantage of certain aspects of a GPU that aren't on the other brands. Game developers most of the time optimize better for Nvdia but now that the Wii U, PS4 and X720 all use AMD GPU that will change.

Why do you think Nvidia has been talking so much crap about the PS4? Because now the focus for developers will be AMD.

FantasyStar4479d ago

I think it has nothing to do with which GPU is better and all about AMD trying to get their name out: which means free AMD cards for DICE to work with. After which it all snowballs from there. Sponsorship leads to endorsement, which then leads to bandwagon popularity and finally GPU sales at the retailers.

AMD's special Get 2 free games is surely helping their cause.

ProjectVulcan4478d ago (Edited 4478d ago )

It won't change. It won't matter all that much for the PC space what particular GPU is inside the consoles. RSX and Xenos are very different in the current consoles and it impacted zero on the PC market.

PC goes its own way technologically and carves its own path in terms of hardware, its the consoles that end up with PC hardware in them, not vice versa.

Nvidia has a significant market share developers aren't going to just forget about that when they make a game for PC.

Also within a couple years generally the architectures can change so much that there is only minor similarities.

PS4 might have a modern architecture in 2013 but within 2 years AMD (and Nvidia) will have probably altered their designs so much it is only vaguely similar to what is in a modern PC GPU. Within 2 years of 360 launching the dominant performance architecture (Nvidia 8800) was nothing like Xenos in 360 or RSX in PS3.

The biggest thing that will impact the PC gaming space will be the fact they share a CPU instruction set (x86) and that impact can only possibly be positive for everyone concerned.

animegamingnerd4479d ago

yeah spot on the PS4 and wii u are using AMD parts while the 720 is also rumor to so nivida has nothing to with next gen

StraightPath4479d ago

the question is will ps4 and the next xbox able to run it same as on PC with ultra settings? seriously graphics were damn amazing.

cayleee4479d ago

PS4 and Xbox will essentially be low end PCs by the time they launch, you are setting yourself up for dissapointment if you think you will get ultra settings, be happy if they manage medium.

Scroticus4479d ago

You're getting 720p at 60fps, so Ultra without AA is possible. Don't expect full AA and AF.

Nick_5154479d ago

Yes, they will. When the PS4 and 720 release, differences in games between them and the PC version will be minimal. It will stay like that for a little while, at least.

CheexInk4478d ago

The answer is no. Ultra Settings for a game like Battlefield would require a high-end gaming PC to keep it running smoothly. Most PCs won't be running ultra and certainly no consoles will be running ultra.

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Arai4479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

"Gaming Evolved" thing from AMD, they are pushing more and more to be involved with big releases.
It's a good thing really as their GPU drivers are optimized time and time again to give more/better performance.
Plus those games usually end up being bundled with their GPU's, which is win/win for both AMD/developers.

Lior4479d ago

Does it matter what they played it on i have SLI 680 any game on ultra will run a smooth 60fps no matter what the game is really

TXIDarkAvenger4479d ago

Both are great companies. I'm pretty sure those consoles are using AMD because they are cheaper. Nvidia costs more but is slightly better than AMD. Not a huge difference though.

stragomccloud4479d ago

Has nothing to do with consoles.
It's because AMD beat Nvidia to the punch with Directx 11 cards, and got a big head start because of that and the lower price point for AMD cards. This goes way back to 2010.

awi59514478d ago

Xbox will be Amd and Ati all the way! Sony has just learned Microsoft's lesson from xbox 1. Nivida sucks balls at cutting deals they will screw you in a heart beat. They forced Microsoft to buy their crap GPU at full price for the whole lifespan of the console with no price savings going to microsoft. So Thats why Nividia is cut out of the console market this gen.

imchuckbass4478d ago

You're only seeing AMD in the PS4, 720 and WiiU because they're cheaper. No other reason.

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Muffins12234479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

Ugh....i think my next gpu will be AMD because it seems they're gonna get allot more support because there supplying both next gen consoles.I have a gtx680 and my cpu is intel so my next cpu i get will be AMD which i will get maybe this year, my next gpu i will get will be like in 2015 and AMD

FlameBaitGod4479d ago

I'm going with AMD this time cus I saw how much of an ass Nvidia is.

Cryptcuzz4479d ago

I might be doing that as well for the very same reason.

I really hope AMD does well in the next few years and take back some of the GPU market share from Nvidia.

It is only good for everyone that AMD does well, since competition drives innovation and lower prices.

Modestmex4478d ago

That's stupid! Nvidia cards and drivers are better so nvidia will be for me don't care bout this console amd, nvidia shit its stupid.

MuhammadJA4479d ago

I'm also going with AMD in my next upgrade. Seeing how it's so cool to hate Nvidia on N4G and since they're also going to be inside the PS4, they're automatically better.

My life is good!

ILive4479d ago

Could this possibly be that it could look just as good on the ps4? If so, amazing.

chcolatesnw4479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

7990 = 7970 x 2
ps4 gpu = ~ 7790

no amount of optimization would get a 7790 within even a 60% gap to 7990 LOOOOOL

expect about 25% of the stuff you saw in the video to be on ps4, ie, 720p 60 fps with low-medium settings.

GiantFriendlyCrab4479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

who told you that ps4 would be equipped with 7790?, stop talking shit

IcyEyes4479d ago

People like you looks so hateful ... Its so hard enjoy instead hating and trolling ?

Have a good day, you really need it.

Kur04479d ago

PS4 GPU is actually between a 7850 and 7870.

miso_Jeff4479d ago

LOOOOOL @ your troll math

Arai4479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

PS4 GPU is between 7850 - 7870, Xbox720 is 7770.
For the rest......troll on! /sarcasm

Twinzclipz4479d ago

Dude Sony have their engineers so they can custom the GPU so don't talk earlier if u don't know how this game will looks on Playstation , i mean this game is available on PS3 and XBOX 360 too and if u pick a pc with 256mb or 512mb of ram i'm damn sure ur pc will explode even with low settings u can't play it at 30 fps at least 5 fps.

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Omeganex99994479d ago

Are all PC fanboys buying top ends cards that cost more than a full PS4? Because I see a lot of people bitching 'cause their hypothetical 3000$ systems are already better than something that will probably come out at less than 1/8 of the price. I don't see PC fanboys thinking about the fact that those shitty 400$ systems will have the same games they will play on their PCs though.

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gazgriff2k124479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

i believe the PS4 and nextbox versions of the are going to be on par with pc. i.e if its 1080p 60fps it will look almost identical to a pc running a 1080p 60fps

Eyesoftheraven4479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

The Xbox 360 version of Call of Duty was on par with the PC version and those were very nice visuals back then. Really the only difference was with PC you could run higher resolution & framerate than 360.

Scroticus4479d ago

Already been declared 720p at 60fps. Still going to be pretty, but not AS pretty.

sourav934479d ago

@Scroticus When did DICE ever mention anything about BF4 running on next gen consoles at 720@60fps? That was a rumour. In fact, DICE actually hasn't mentioned anything on resolution when it comes to the next gen consoles.

awi59514478d ago

Yeah thats just so wrong its funny. Used PC gpu's are very cheap on ebay and any of the low to mid range cards will kill a console in visuals. Because our old parts are still really fast because GPU's get changed out so fast the games arent even ready for them.

I remember when the PS3 and xbox 360 launched. I bought a 180 dollar amd gpu to go in my PC and the huge jump in graphics that me and me friends saw was just insane. That card was mid range to high i guess brand new but it would max any game out there on ultra.

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ABizzel14479d ago

It's a slim possibility but possible. If you play the PS4 version you won't be able to tell unless you run them side by side. My guess is the demo was running in 4K max, and the PS4 wil be 720p or 1080p high, so it'll look good, but not like that demo.

torchic4479d ago

4K UHD?

damn, you're smoking some really good stuff there.

Modestmex4478d ago

Lol what's wrong witch chu boii!!

ABizzel14478d ago

@torchic & Modestmex

The simple fact that NVIDIA Titan can run BF3 in 4K, max settings, @60fps, which would suggest that the HD 7990 used in the BF4 demo is even more likely to run BF4 in 4k at the same resolution, fps, and settings.

GiantFriendlyCrab4479d ago (Edited 4479d ago )

ill be getting soon either the 7870 or 7950 in Crossfire, best and cheapest soultion to will destroy gtx670

shackdaddy4478d ago

Crossfire sucks to deal with though...

WUTCHUGUNNADO4479d ago

Definitely won't be maxing this out with a single 680gtx... good to see I'll get more work out of it though.

WUTCHUGUNNADO4478d ago

I like that the disagree's mean some optimism from you guys but I'm not so sure I'm going to hit that 1080p/60fps mark with everything maxed if their showcasing it on a 7990. If you take it literally then yeah it'll be able to max it out but what would the frames be like if it's meant for a dual gpu setup?

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer12d ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole12d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK11d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent7511d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM11d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif11d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer11d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin11d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer8d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent7511d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer11d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM11d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer12d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused12d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher12d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning7712d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay11d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer11d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D & 9900X3D 3D V-Cache CPUs Now Available

AMD launches the Ryzen 9 9950X3D for $699 & Ryzen 9 9900X3D for $599, offering the best-in-class gaming & content creation CPU performance.

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mkis007111d ago

X3D really turned around AMD's cpu prospects. I wont touch intel now, vs 10 years ago I wouldn't imagine going anywhere near AMD cpu's for gaming only.

ZycoFox111d ago

Zen 1 was merely "meh" IMO, it had major RAM compatibility issues, only really worked with Samsung memory from what I recall, and performance was ok at best, the 8700k launched the same year and was top dog even when Zen 2 came out. Though Zen 2 was much better.. it just lacked a bit in gaming, good all rounder chips though for other applications.

AMD are trying to upsell the 9900x3D to 9950x3D, pricing is weird (too close) and odd chip configuration.. it should be a lot cheaper. They did the same with the 9070 -> 9070XT.

Some funny choices going on at AMD..

FinalFantasyFanatic111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

Zen 1 was pretty great for what it was, considering that was the first time in a long time that AMD was actually competitve with Intel, it was also the first time you could easily get something with more than 4 cores/threads. The RAM issues was frustrating AF though, especially since Zen 1 performance relied so heavily on fast RAM.

If we ignore the price, the 990x3D and 9950X3D look pretty great provided you can actually make use of those extra cores/threads, otherwise the 9800x3D is better value.

PixelOmen111d ago

Zen1 was the beginning of the turn around and by Zen3 it was starting to become ultra competitive. X3D was really only the final nail in the coffin.

Jingsing110d ago (Edited 110d ago )

I guess the real question is how many compatibility issues will arise from their motherboard chipsets? also the selection of motherboards for AMD is more limited too. Which often limits what kind of form factor build you want. Last time around I avoided AMD due to their chipsets having horrid USB3 support with accessories. You tend not to see these kind of issues being talked about, it ends up just being games and synthetic benchmarks.

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Project Amethyst: AMD & Sony Collaborate on FSR 4

AMD and Sony co-develop FSR 4 upscaler under Project Amethyst, enhancing visuals and performance for future PlayStation consoles.

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Eonjay115d ago

Clearly there was a colab as every game used to demo the tech was a WWS game. And of course they alluded yo this as far bask as the Pro Tech deep dive.

This means that PSSR is probably a lightweight CNN version of FSR 4 which would make sense due to the Pro and PS6 being AMD cards. The biggest relevant difference in the PRO and the RDNA 4 cards being that the PC cards have 3x+ the TOPS.

They both deliver good results with FSR4 having a better denoiser.

PanicMechanic111d ago

I remember Cerny saying that whatever developments were made with PSSR for the prop, that tech would translate into and help develop FSR 4. Sony is making the right moves with AMD

Eonjay111d ago

Yes it feels like they helped them catch up with ML real fast.

Starman69115d ago

Can't believe how good God of war Ragnarok is on the pro 😳

DivineHand125115d ago

The question is, is PSSR going to be replaced by FSR4 on future playstation consoles and is the PS5 Pro FSR4 capable?

--Onilink--114d ago

Unlikely given that FSR4 is only supported by the 9000 cards.

I would expect the PS6 to use FSR4 since it is definitely superior to PSSR, not really much of a point in keeping investing separate resourced into PSSR, but who knows if both will be available on PS6

ABizzel1114d ago

FSR 5 would likely be out by then and probably a transformer model. I assume Sony will continue to use PSSR for branding purposes but it will essentially be FSR 5 with a PlayStation specifically solution.

The_Hooligan114d ago

In my opinion I think they will still use PSSR for the PS6 mainly because that was a big marketing point for the PS5 Pro and Sony probably doesn't want to abandon it. They might call it PSSR 2.0 or something and will probably use similar tech as FSR4 due to the partnership between the two companies. I doubt PS6 will use anything similar to the 9000 cards so won't have the same bells and whistles as the FSR4.

NoDamage115d ago

I was going to build a PC soon with a last gen and card but this makes me think I should wait to make sure I get the best experience in the next generation as well.

I guess I'm going to be all in on AMD which is the opposite of what I would normally lean towards.

ZycoFox114d ago (Edited 114d ago )

Value wise the 9070XT is a decent card if you don't want to pay for Nvidia ones.. That being said, make sure you're happy with the restrictions using some software, if you're happy with just gaming though AMD should be fine.

Probably best bet price wise is get the 9070XT and then upgrade next gen in a couple of years.. With Nvidia this new gen has been a bust, only the 5090 is a decent step up, even the 4090 beats the 5080 by a fair margin.

Hopefully Nvidia bounces back next gen.. though I expect refreshed 5000 cards before then, 5080 Ti / Super will probably be = to a 4090.

NoDamage114d ago

Thanks! I'll look into software restrictions. Never thought there would be issues there and it's important since I do some graphic design. I was thinking about the 9070 but will have to wait till a it's actually available to buy without the current nonsense.

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