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Microsoft and Sony are Closer to Going Third-Party than Nintendo – Lets get the Facts Straight

Playeressence's Furious Francis cross examines Michael Pachter and Cliff Bleszinski's claims that Nintendo will go third party in the future, just how well did the PS3 and Xbox 360 do financially?

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LackTrue4K4077d ago

Nintendo is just upset that no 3rd party developers are taking them Seriously with there Wii U!!!
Lol.....

Theyellowflash304077d ago

Since when has Nintendo Needed third parties? Nintendo needs to get there first party games out to sell units.

AnotherProGamer4077d ago

They always needed third party like the reason PS2 sold more than the gamecube was because of the huge PS2 library

Theyellowflash304077d ago

Sorry, I meant to say Nintendo needs first party software now. Just like the 3DS did when everybody said that system was doomed. Nintendo is getting some good third party games in March with Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Need for Speed Most Wanted, and The Amazing Spider Man.

Roper3164077d ago

they need to get their 1st party to make more the just Mario, Zelda & Mario spinoffs. They need their 1st party to make some games aimed at just a adult gamer along with the all ages games. jmho

phntom4077d ago

@Theyellowflash30

You mean "Port Hunter 3", "Port Speed Most Wanted" and "The Amazing Spider Port". C'mon dude, MHTri is a good game but there are so many ports of it, that I doubt it will sell a lot on WiiU. NFS and ASM are didn't even sold well on PS3 and Xbox, what makes you think they will sell on WiiU?

Merrill4077d ago

Nintendo was at their best/strongest with all out 3rd party support. The Super Nintendo days were their best, by far... In my opinion, of course.

user39158004076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

All consoles need third party games, we buy consoles to play games on them and the more you have the better.

Francis might be mad due to comment posted, but the truth is they are right, wiiu its doing awfully, even Nintendo drop the forecast, shares went down, they reconfigure wiiu business with handheld and 100s has been let go from their positions.

Do anyone need more sign that nintendos wiiu its in trouble? Even Nintendo president admited and said we are not doing as we expected and the reason we low down production.

BEST NNTENDO CAN DO ITS KILL THE CONSOLE ALREADY AND EITHER come up with a console to challenge next gen or kill the wiiu and keep the handheld business. Just stay handheld and stocks goes back up because its your healthiest market, and go third party to the other 2 console.

I dont see any other way to place it, a little too late. Just make a new console with wii and wiiu compatability to satisfy does that bought games for it and just simply make the new console a beast.

Call the new console WII 2 Super WII Beast.

Larry L4076d ago

I know this will be an unpopular view, but I personally always wished (well....since I've moved on from being a Nintendo gamer, SNES was the last Ninty console I owned and loved) that Nintendo would actually go 3rd party themselves like Sega. Sega got forced into it pretty much, and imo they don't heve enough great IPs to be a HUGE 3rd party dev. But Nintendo could actually CHOOSE to be 3rd party, and their IPs are good enough where I think they could actually make MORE money putting those IPs on other (better) hardware.

I have no interest in going back to Nintendo, at least not in the foreseeable future. Their new iterations of their classic IPs don't do it for me. But they could get their fill of my money by releasing Nintendo Classics on PlayStation. I know it will never happen, but if I got my wish I'd be able to play the original Marios, Punch-Out!!, A Link to the Past and so on, on a console I actually own....Vita would be IDEAL. Judging by how much I enjoy MegaMan 1-3 on Vita, all those game would be better than ever.

Like I said, I know it will never happen (unless Wii U hurts Nintendo even more than I think it will), but realistically, it's the only way Nintendo would ever make money off this old-school gamer again.

Qrphe4076d ago

They needed them during the N64 and GC days. The lack of them was the reason they took a different approach with the Wii in the first place.

Mounce4076d ago

Well I'm still hoping that there's a day that the Nintendo fanbase realizes that all Nintendo has been doing with their software lineup, is milking Mario games 5x harder while pumping out the same IP over and over and over and I re-ask this over and over, what was the last IP Nintendo themselves made, my last recollection is Pikmen(Originally on Gamecube...). What new franchises had Sony made or Microsoft made this generation? or the last? fucking TONS.

Nintendo takes 'Risks' only by handing out their IP's to other studios to try to spice up their IP's in ways that they themselves cannot do without fearing that the milking of nostalgias' tits will infact go dry....hence why Metroid Prime happened and thankfully did well. The second attempt didn't seem to be met well though with Metroid: Other M. Mario games are no longer being passed around and Zelda, ever since Mario Hotel and many other disasters, or SAYYY....Link: The Faces of Evil, Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon on CD-i -_-...

"Lets get the facts straight?" rofl.

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3-4-54076d ago

It would cost Nintendo money to Drop the Wii U and stop producing consoles more than it would save, given what they have invested in research and the actual manufacturing.

Moonman4077d ago

Nintendo has Watch Dogs coming and hopefully GTA V. They sell more first party than anyone! 3DS is already over 30 million sold even before Pokemon X and Y..lol. They have over 10 billion in the bank!

silly fanboys.....

2pacalypsenow4077d ago (Edited 4077d ago )

IF GTA V is current gen it won be on the wii U why waste time and $ in development when everyone will be playing it on Xbox 360/Ps3 and maybe Pc/Ps4 /Next Xbox

DarkBlood4077d ago

in that case why waste time making it for ps4 and next xbox when its just about the same amount of effort to put it on the wiiu?

that is why you fail :P

HammadTheBeast4076d ago

They won't put the effort in yet for a PC version cause they're so busy with PS3/Xbox 360, what makes you think that they've even thought of other consoles?

HarryMasonHerpderp4077d ago (Edited 4077d ago )

This guy just seems like he's mad about the comments by Cliff when he shouldn't be because Cliff has been talking crap for a while now. Just ignore him.
I'm pretty sure Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will be making hardware for many years to come.

PeaSFor4077d ago

to resume, the guy who did this blog is simply butthurted.

dee-ecks4077d ago

Nintendo will go 3rd party looooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooong before Sony does.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7219h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle6h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18814h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio3h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga6h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21835h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga4h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan18m ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

purple1019h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos8h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac7h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic5h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 5h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken15h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 1h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 1h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola21h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle23h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 16h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 13h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 11h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 4h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 6h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 2h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 13h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9023h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 15h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 15h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 12h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 14h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 13h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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