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Microsoft and Sony are Closer to Going Third-Party than Nintendo – Lets get the Facts Straight

Playeressence's Furious Francis cross examines Michael Pachter and Cliff Bleszinski's claims that Nintendo will go third party in the future, just how well did the PS3 and Xbox 360 do financially?

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LackTrue4K4093d ago

Nintendo is just upset that no 3rd party developers are taking them Seriously with there Wii U!!!
Lol.....

Theyellowflash304093d ago

Since when has Nintendo Needed third parties? Nintendo needs to get there first party games out to sell units.

AnotherProGamer4093d ago

They always needed third party like the reason PS2 sold more than the gamecube was because of the huge PS2 library

Theyellowflash304093d ago

Sorry, I meant to say Nintendo needs first party software now. Just like the 3DS did when everybody said that system was doomed. Nintendo is getting some good third party games in March with Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Need for Speed Most Wanted, and The Amazing Spider Man.

Roper3164093d ago

they need to get their 1st party to make more the just Mario, Zelda & Mario spinoffs. They need their 1st party to make some games aimed at just a adult gamer along with the all ages games. jmho

phntom4093d ago

@Theyellowflash30

You mean "Port Hunter 3", "Port Speed Most Wanted" and "The Amazing Spider Port". C'mon dude, MHTri is a good game but there are so many ports of it, that I doubt it will sell a lot on WiiU. NFS and ASM are didn't even sold well on PS3 and Xbox, what makes you think they will sell on WiiU?

Merrill4093d ago

Nintendo was at their best/strongest with all out 3rd party support. The Super Nintendo days were their best, by far... In my opinion, of course.

user39158004093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

All consoles need third party games, we buy consoles to play games on them and the more you have the better.

Francis might be mad due to comment posted, but the truth is they are right, wiiu its doing awfully, even Nintendo drop the forecast, shares went down, they reconfigure wiiu business with handheld and 100s has been let go from their positions.

Do anyone need more sign that nintendos wiiu its in trouble? Even Nintendo president admited and said we are not doing as we expected and the reason we low down production.

BEST NNTENDO CAN DO ITS KILL THE CONSOLE ALREADY AND EITHER come up with a console to challenge next gen or kill the wiiu and keep the handheld business. Just stay handheld and stocks goes back up because its your healthiest market, and go third party to the other 2 console.

I dont see any other way to place it, a little too late. Just make a new console with wii and wiiu compatability to satisfy does that bought games for it and just simply make the new console a beast.

Call the new console WII 2 Super WII Beast.

Larry L4093d ago

I know this will be an unpopular view, but I personally always wished (well....since I've moved on from being a Nintendo gamer, SNES was the last Ninty console I owned and loved) that Nintendo would actually go 3rd party themselves like Sega. Sega got forced into it pretty much, and imo they don't heve enough great IPs to be a HUGE 3rd party dev. But Nintendo could actually CHOOSE to be 3rd party, and their IPs are good enough where I think they could actually make MORE money putting those IPs on other (better) hardware.

I have no interest in going back to Nintendo, at least not in the foreseeable future. Their new iterations of their classic IPs don't do it for me. But they could get their fill of my money by releasing Nintendo Classics on PlayStation. I know it will never happen, but if I got my wish I'd be able to play the original Marios, Punch-Out!!, A Link to the Past and so on, on a console I actually own....Vita would be IDEAL. Judging by how much I enjoy MegaMan 1-3 on Vita, all those game would be better than ever.

Like I said, I know it will never happen (unless Wii U hurts Nintendo even more than I think it will), but realistically, it's the only way Nintendo would ever make money off this old-school gamer again.

Qrphe4093d ago

They needed them during the N64 and GC days. The lack of them was the reason they took a different approach with the Wii in the first place.

Mounce4092d ago

Well I'm still hoping that there's a day that the Nintendo fanbase realizes that all Nintendo has been doing with their software lineup, is milking Mario games 5x harder while pumping out the same IP over and over and over and I re-ask this over and over, what was the last IP Nintendo themselves made, my last recollection is Pikmen(Originally on Gamecube...). What new franchises had Sony made or Microsoft made this generation? or the last? fucking TONS.

Nintendo takes 'Risks' only by handing out their IP's to other studios to try to spice up their IP's in ways that they themselves cannot do without fearing that the milking of nostalgias' tits will infact go dry....hence why Metroid Prime happened and thankfully did well. The second attempt didn't seem to be met well though with Metroid: Other M. Mario games are no longer being passed around and Zelda, ever since Mario Hotel and many other disasters, or SAYYY....Link: The Faces of Evil, Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon on CD-i -_-...

"Lets get the facts straight?" rofl.

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3-4-54092d ago

It would cost Nintendo money to Drop the Wii U and stop producing consoles more than it would save, given what they have invested in research and the actual manufacturing.

Moonman4093d ago

Nintendo has Watch Dogs coming and hopefully GTA V. They sell more first party than anyone! 3DS is already over 30 million sold even before Pokemon X and Y..lol. They have over 10 billion in the bank!

silly fanboys.....

2pacalypsenow4093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

IF GTA V is current gen it won be on the wii U why waste time and $ in development when everyone will be playing it on Xbox 360/Ps3 and maybe Pc/Ps4 /Next Xbox

DarkBlood4093d ago

in that case why waste time making it for ps4 and next xbox when its just about the same amount of effort to put it on the wiiu?

that is why you fail :P

HammadTheBeast4092d ago

They won't put the effort in yet for a PC version cause they're so busy with PS3/Xbox 360, what makes you think that they've even thought of other consoles?

HarryMasonHerpderp4093d ago (Edited 4093d ago )

This guy just seems like he's mad about the comments by Cliff when he shouldn't be because Cliff has been talking crap for a while now. Just ignore him.
I'm pretty sure Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will be making hardware for many years to come.

PeaSFor4093d ago

to resume, the guy who did this blog is simply butthurted.

dee-ecks4093d ago

Nintendo will go 3rd party looooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooong before Sony does.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic188119h ago(Edited 19h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus2310h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos26m ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

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SonyStyled15h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies3h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

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jwillj2k419h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot18h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

RNTody18h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead8h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast18h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn197917h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

lodossrage1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

lodossrage1h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead2d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 19h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1d 9h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 6h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow10h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow10h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX1d 22h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney5h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno1d 21h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 19h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 19h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 5h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 4h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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