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Sony And Microsoft First Party Match-Up

Eskimo Press: As always when a new generation of consoles is upon us, there is a lot of excitement surrounding every aspect of the next-gen platforms. Everything from hardware specs and controller, to online service and apps, factor into our decision of which console to support. However, being gamers, what will always matter most are the games. System exclusives are one of the biggest selling points for any new console, so let’s take a look at how Sony and Microsoft measure up in regards to first party development studios.

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Walker4508d ago (Edited 4508d ago )

Sony Wins . Flawless Victory !

Sako4508d ago

They certainly are looking stronger as of now. Microsoft's going to have a hard time catching up with the massive hype that Sony's got going

b163o14508d ago

It's over before it even begin. Gears,HALO, and ummmmmmm, ummmmmmm oh project Gotham? Vs. GodOfWar, Uncharted, Killzone, GranTurismo, QuanticDream, just to name a few

HarryMasonHerpderp4508d ago

I reckon Microsoft will be announcing some great games for the next Xbox. Some sequels some new IPs. I know right now it's hard to see that happening but Microsoft seem like they're really into giving Sony a hard time. They won't let Sony just walk away with the crown. That would be too easy (of course I could be wrong).
I'll be getting a PS4 first though because I've never been let down by a Playstation console, plus Sony's developers are all brilliant and produced most of my favourite games this current gen.

MikeMyers4508d ago

Well if we look at history Sony winds hands down in this category. I hope Microsoft has been busy these last few years expanding and creating new games otherwise the next Xbox might fall flat since the PS4 seems to abolish a lot of issues the PS3 had.

DOMination-4507d ago

This article is garbage. Just saying "oh it seems MS are just concentrating on kinect apart from 343" is not going to cut it.

MS have 22 studios to Sony's 12. Why not talk about what they are rumoured to be developing? Or is researching too much effort? It would have been a good article if you bothered.

Sony have had this locked down in recent years but MS are coming back strong. Both will have great first parties.

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GiggMan4508d ago

I think (hope) @Walker was referring to the thumbnail picture chosen for the article. At least that's the first thing that I though of when I saw it.

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AngelicIceDiamond4508d ago

I like how everyone assumes MS lost their core audience. Why, because Sony has about 4 extra hardcore titles per year all of the sudden the PS3 is a hardcore platform?

@B1 Gears, Halo, Project Gotham, Fable Vs Gow, Uncharted Killzone, Grand Turismo and Quantic Dream

Hey genius, Sony's still pumping out a 8 year old franchise (GOW). A 6 year old franchise (Uncharted) a 15 year old franchise (GT) and a 9 year old franchise (Killzone)

And 1 newer Ip. In which allot of those games are just as old as MS's games?

Failed.

b163o14508d ago (Edited 4508d ago )

Journey, LBP, Infamous, Resistance, MGS4(still looks better then any 360 game), and Starhawk.

Approval!!

Sony's known for not watering down franchises, that's why are classic Ip's last so long. Something MS doesn't understand

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PsnGammer214508d ago

Well Sony is for sure going win when Microsoft only has three relevant exsclusives. That being halo, gears, and forza. Thing is though really only two since forza is a knockoff of grand turismo...

Count4508d ago

You can't even spell Gran Turismo properly. Do you even PLAY Gran Turismo?

No, of course not.

Yes, they have 2 exclusives that are relevant to you. This does not mean they won't have other exclusives that will be relevant to other people. So who cares?

A knock off of Gran Turismo, you mean the knock off of a lot of other racing games out there?

Why am I trying to educate you?

Kurt Russell4508d ago

He misspelled Gamer in his own name too, you might as well try digging a new window in the wall with your own head :)

Don't feed the trolls!

Hicken4507d ago

People can't even discern the difference between "off" and "of." They use "of" instead of "have." And you're worried about "gran" versus "grand?" At least those have the same meaning.

And no, he meant a knockoff of Gran Turismo, as that's LITERALLY the reason Forza exists.

Count4507d ago

Oh so, Gran Turismo didn't rip off anything from the racing genre as a whole? ? Is that what you're trying to say? Don't be ridiculous. Of course it did!

Calling Forza a Gran Turismo knock off is the worst argument you could make against the game. It's a double edged sword. It works on Gran Turismo as well.

If you have any PROPER criticism to make against Forza, then I am welcome to hear it. I don't think the game is perfect. Of course it has flaws. However, I don't expect some guy who more than likely has never played it to tell me what they are.

You know, you say it's a knock off of Gran Turismo, but that's all you say. You don't say WHY it's a knock off of Gran Turismo. Do you know why? Either because a) you don't know what you're talking about or b) because it will work against your favor and you know it.

What I meant with the ''you can't even spell Gran Turismo properly'' is: That for a game that he happens to endorse so much, he sure can't bring himself to remember its name.

Dragos754508d ago

The sad part is that is all they need. People may not like those three but they are heavy hitters and sell like crazy. Can't really say the same for all of sony's.

clintagious6504508d ago

Sony has the edge in this department though i believe if ms FOCUSED more on spending money on new IP's they could dish out great games aswell but its sad that they havent tried in the last couple years, kinda hard for me to be excited for their nextbox with the way they been treating the core base.

Sako4508d ago

Totally agree. They've been way too focused on app development/integration into live. They really need to show some exciting games at their reveal if they want people lining up at launch

IK IR Y IP T4508d ago

don't count microsoft out yet the last time i checked just one of microsoft's exclusives (gears of war 3) out sold all of sonys first party exclusives combined that is a fact !

majiebeast4508d ago (Edited 4508d ago )

Fact that came out of your ass?

Let me try
Aliens are real that is a fact! Why? Because i said so!

On topic
Microsoft has some talented studio's like 343 and Lion head studios even though Lionhead lost Molyneux and the guys that now formed Media Molecule. They dont have a developer at the caliber of Naughty dog or Santa monica studio's now thats a fact!

Urusernamesucks4508d ago

Or an opinion, but of course anything like that is considered a"FACT" in this site -_-

Sako4508d ago

It is true that although the Xbox has had fewer high-profile exclusives, they've done quite well in comparison to the Playstation 3's numerous AAA games. But I think that series like Halo and Gears of War are starting to stagnate a bit and need to switch things up to keep fans playing. Halo 4 was a solid game, and certainly took some steps in the right direction regarding storytelling and such, but it still relied heavily on the solid foundation of Bungie's games

BladerunnerZX4508d ago

It looks like the Gears of War franchise has ran out of steam and while Forza is a good game it is no Gran Turismo.

Microsoft really only has Halo as a true AAA system seller.

Fishy Fingers4508d ago

Usually leave the sales talk to others, but I find that incredibly hard to believe, especially with games like GT5 selling 9+ million copies.

But hey, if you say it's a fact, I guess it must be... Eh.

dafegamer4508d ago

gears of war 3 sold the same like uncharted 3, mmaybe even less cause u3 was in the top 10 charts for 2 months. also gears of war 3 doesnt outsell god of war and gran turismo at all

Tontus4508d ago

Exactly, Uncharted is almost as big as Gears of War and Gran Turismo is almost as big as Halo. Of course both UC & GT are heavily bundled series whereas Halo & Gears aren't but they're still comparable to M$'s biggest.

Then Sony has the massive God of War franchise which is bigger than every M$ franchise but Halo, I think people forget that God of War III went on to sell 6 million units with no bundling and awful advertising, it's also in an unpopular genre and had no multiplayer. Word of mouth and fan power alone is why GoW is so huge, I doubt Halo would be much bigger if it weren't for M$'s fantastic marketing team (I guess being a FPS helps too).

Then there is Sony's other big franchises like the 3-5 million (per game) selling LittleBigPlanet, the 2-3m (pg) selling Killzone, 1.5-2.5m (pg) selling inFAMOUS, the 2-4m (pg) selling Resistance. Don't forget Heavenly Sword, Heavy Rain, Motorstorm etc which all manage 1-2 million.

Other notable M$ franchise's are Fable and Forza which are quite big at 3-5m (pg) but like UC & GT they're also heavily bundled and Fable 1 & 3 is available on PC. To be fair even Gears of War isn't first party, if Epic wanted to they could go multiplatform.

In terms of first party games, without question Sony > Microsoft.

clintagious6504508d ago (Edited 4508d ago )

I never counted them out to begin with. MS has shown early in the 360's lifespan that they can dish out great exclusives with, Crackdown, Lost Odyssy, Alan Wake & their main franchises like Forza, Halo, Gears but for the last half of the 360's lifespan its been rather disappointing because other then halo/gears/forza there hasnt been much other then 3rd party games u can also play on other systems. They need to go back to the formula that they started with early in the 360's lifespan if they dont want to lose their core audience because if they keep focusing on kinect games & add 2 or 3 new IP's for their nextbox & think that'll be enough then they will lose MOST of their core base.

Edit: Also forgot to add that State of Decay looks pretty cool for an xbl game. Whats so hard about making new IP's like this forms? I dont give a sh*t how much money kinect brings in for them, I just want NEW GAMES that cater to us core gamers. Is dat so hard for them to do? Smh.

TheEnigma3134508d ago

Uncharted 3 is closing in on 6 million sales fyi.

Drekken4508d ago (Edited 4508d ago )

I haven't been keeping up with game sales totals, but UC3 deserves the sales. Very impressive.

EDIT: I had to look it up - Uncharted (Ps3 games) have totaled almost 16.5 million units sold. Very Nice. By comparison Gears 1-3 sold 18.33 million. Gears 3 has 5.76mil sold and UC3 is 5.67mil. This guy is a troll.

kayoss4508d ago

Looking at sales number can be decieving. Halo and gears are very good game. UC3 and god of war are very good game. But when you look at the sale numbers for UC3 and god of war it may not compare to Halo and Gears. Everyone have to admit though Gears, Halo, UC3, and god of war are better games then Call of duty series. but COD outsold all of them combined, does that make cod a better game? of course not. I prefer to think that most PS3 exclusive games gear towards the more older and mature audience who are not into shooters. Where as xbox 360 games are gear toward the FPS audience. This is true when you look at the sale numbers of Killzone and resistance to games like gran turismo, GOW, Uncharted.

Tito084508d ago (Edited 4508d ago )

@ Drekken, since you're using the other old games to win an argument you already lost, didn't you forget Uncharted sales total is almost 17 million?? that's without counting Golden Abyss, & the first Uncharted sold very well for a game that didn't have online multiplayer.. Of course is a bit less than Gears,but what if Uncharted 1 had multiplayer?? also Uncharted 2 have met a lot of critical praise & lots of awards, something your precious Gears lacked in the first place!!

Karpetburnz4508d ago

Gears of War 2 and 3 cant even outsell Uncharted 2 and 3 let alone every Sony first part exclusive combined LOL

Gran Turismo 5 sold 9 million not including Prologue.
Uncharted 2 sold over 6 million.
Uncharted 3 is close to 6 million.

Gears of War 2 sold 6 million
Gears of war 3 is close to 6 million. (keep in mind that GoW 2 was released before UC2 and GoW 3 was released before UC3)

Please get your facts straight.

calis4508d ago

"last time i checked just one of microsoft's exclusives (gears of war 3) out sold all of sonys first party exclusives combined that is a fact"

lolwat?

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Jek_Porkins4508d ago

It'll be a lot closer in terms of exclusives this generation because Microsoft has beefed up their studios in house. Instead of going out and buying a ton of studios, they opened their own.

Black Tusk Studios is a name people will need to remember next generation. Microsoft also has around 20 studios now, which is impressive.

Just looking forward to the creativity that they can offer next gen.

InTheLab4508d ago

Most of those are Kinect studios.. They have 3 more studios than Sony but they're just not using them effectively. ....

Jek_Porkins4508d ago

Most are Kinect studios? Get out of here. When was the last first party Kinect game released? Fable The Journey? They haven't even been releasing Kinect first party games.

DigitalSmoke4508d ago

Lol gtfo m8
Sony has more proven development studio's then nintendo
and Microsoft combined.

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‘I think Xbox hardware is dead’, says Microsoft gaming veteran

One of the founding members of the Xbox team has questioned Microsoft’s multiplatform gaming strategy, and said they believe the Xbox hardware business is effectively “dead"

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Goodguy011d 2h ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN5h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga4h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid6383h ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

thorstein2h ago

The only Xbox I owned was the 360. I have gamepass for my PC.

crazyCoconuts4h ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark15h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils2d ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent751d 8h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils1d ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai3d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning773d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher2d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor2d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde2d ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z1d 16h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey861d 11h ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer6d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30006d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer6d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger6d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30006d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole6d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto6d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing696d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif6d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing696d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif6d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot6d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast6d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts6d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto6d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos6d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo5d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner5d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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