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Sony And Microsoft First Party Match-Up

Eskimo Press: As always when a new generation of consoles is upon us, there is a lot of excitement surrounding every aspect of the next-gen platforms. Everything from hardware specs and controller, to online service and apps, factor into our decision of which console to support. However, being gamers, what will always matter most are the games. System exclusives are one of the biggest selling points for any new console, so let’s take a look at how Sony and Microsoft measure up in regards to first party development studios.

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Walker4078d ago (Edited 4078d ago )

Sony Wins . Flawless Victory !

Sako4078d ago

They certainly are looking stronger as of now. Microsoft's going to have a hard time catching up with the massive hype that Sony's got going

b163o14078d ago

It's over before it even begin. Gears,HALO, and ummmmmmm, ummmmmmm oh project Gotham? Vs. GodOfWar, Uncharted, Killzone, GranTurismo, QuanticDream, just to name a few

HarryMasonHerpderp4078d ago

I reckon Microsoft will be announcing some great games for the next Xbox. Some sequels some new IPs. I know right now it's hard to see that happening but Microsoft seem like they're really into giving Sony a hard time. They won't let Sony just walk away with the crown. That would be too easy (of course I could be wrong).
I'll be getting a PS4 first though because I've never been let down by a Playstation console, plus Sony's developers are all brilliant and produced most of my favourite games this current gen.

MikeMyers4078d ago

Well if we look at history Sony winds hands down in this category. I hope Microsoft has been busy these last few years expanding and creating new games otherwise the next Xbox might fall flat since the PS4 seems to abolish a lot of issues the PS3 had.

DOMination-4077d ago

This article is garbage. Just saying "oh it seems MS are just concentrating on kinect apart from 343" is not going to cut it.

MS have 22 studios to Sony's 12. Why not talk about what they are rumoured to be developing? Or is researching too much effort? It would have been a good article if you bothered.

Sony have had this locked down in recent years but MS are coming back strong. Both will have great first parties.

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GiggMan4078d ago

I think (hope) @Walker was referring to the thumbnail picture chosen for the article. At least that's the first thing that I though of when I saw it.

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AngelicIceDiamond4078d ago

I like how everyone assumes MS lost their core audience. Why, because Sony has about 4 extra hardcore titles per year all of the sudden the PS3 is a hardcore platform?

@B1 Gears, Halo, Project Gotham, Fable Vs Gow, Uncharted Killzone, Grand Turismo and Quantic Dream

Hey genius, Sony's still pumping out a 8 year old franchise (GOW). A 6 year old franchise (Uncharted) a 15 year old franchise (GT) and a 9 year old franchise (Killzone)

And 1 newer Ip. In which allot of those games are just as old as MS's games?

Failed.

b163o14078d ago (Edited 4078d ago )

Journey, LBP, Infamous, Resistance, MGS4(still looks better then any 360 game), and Starhawk.

Approval!!

Sony's known for not watering down franchises, that's why are classic Ip's last so long. Something MS doesn't understand

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PsnGammer214078d ago

Well Sony is for sure going win when Microsoft only has three relevant exsclusives. That being halo, gears, and forza. Thing is though really only two since forza is a knockoff of grand turismo...

Count4078d ago

You can't even spell Gran Turismo properly. Do you even PLAY Gran Turismo?

No, of course not.

Yes, they have 2 exclusives that are relevant to you. This does not mean they won't have other exclusives that will be relevant to other people. So who cares?

A knock off of Gran Turismo, you mean the knock off of a lot of other racing games out there?

Why am I trying to educate you?

Kurt Russell4078d ago

He misspelled Gamer in his own name too, you might as well try digging a new window in the wall with your own head :)

Don't feed the trolls!

Hicken4077d ago

People can't even discern the difference between "off" and "of." They use "of" instead of "have." And you're worried about "gran" versus "grand?" At least those have the same meaning.

And no, he meant a knockoff of Gran Turismo, as that's LITERALLY the reason Forza exists.

Count4077d ago

Oh so, Gran Turismo didn't rip off anything from the racing genre as a whole? ? Is that what you're trying to say? Don't be ridiculous. Of course it did!

Calling Forza a Gran Turismo knock off is the worst argument you could make against the game. It's a double edged sword. It works on Gran Turismo as well.

If you have any PROPER criticism to make against Forza, then I am welcome to hear it. I don't think the game is perfect. Of course it has flaws. However, I don't expect some guy who more than likely has never played it to tell me what they are.

You know, you say it's a knock off of Gran Turismo, but that's all you say. You don't say WHY it's a knock off of Gran Turismo. Do you know why? Either because a) you don't know what you're talking about or b) because it will work against your favor and you know it.

What I meant with the ''you can't even spell Gran Turismo properly'' is: That for a game that he happens to endorse so much, he sure can't bring himself to remember its name.

Dragos754078d ago

The sad part is that is all they need. People may not like those three but they are heavy hitters and sell like crazy. Can't really say the same for all of sony's.

clintagious6504078d ago

Sony has the edge in this department though i believe if ms FOCUSED more on spending money on new IP's they could dish out great games aswell but its sad that they havent tried in the last couple years, kinda hard for me to be excited for their nextbox with the way they been treating the core base.

Sako4078d ago

Totally agree. They've been way too focused on app development/integration into live. They really need to show some exciting games at their reveal if they want people lining up at launch

IK IR Y IP T4078d ago

don't count microsoft out yet the last time i checked just one of microsoft's exclusives (gears of war 3) out sold all of sonys first party exclusives combined that is a fact !

majiebeast4078d ago (Edited 4078d ago )

Fact that came out of your ass?

Let me try
Aliens are real that is a fact! Why? Because i said so!

On topic
Microsoft has some talented studio's like 343 and Lion head studios even though Lionhead lost Molyneux and the guys that now formed Media Molecule. They dont have a developer at the caliber of Naughty dog or Santa monica studio's now thats a fact!

Urusernamesucks4078d ago

Or an opinion, but of course anything like that is considered a"FACT" in this site -_-

Sako4078d ago

It is true that although the Xbox has had fewer high-profile exclusives, they've done quite well in comparison to the Playstation 3's numerous AAA games. But I think that series like Halo and Gears of War are starting to stagnate a bit and need to switch things up to keep fans playing. Halo 4 was a solid game, and certainly took some steps in the right direction regarding storytelling and such, but it still relied heavily on the solid foundation of Bungie's games

BladerunnerZX4077d ago

It looks like the Gears of War franchise has ran out of steam and while Forza is a good game it is no Gran Turismo.

Microsoft really only has Halo as a true AAA system seller.

Fishy Fingers4078d ago

Usually leave the sales talk to others, but I find that incredibly hard to believe, especially with games like GT5 selling 9+ million copies.

But hey, if you say it's a fact, I guess it must be... Eh.

dafegamer4078d ago

gears of war 3 sold the same like uncharted 3, mmaybe even less cause u3 was in the top 10 charts for 2 months. also gears of war 3 doesnt outsell god of war and gran turismo at all

Tontus4077d ago

Exactly, Uncharted is almost as big as Gears of War and Gran Turismo is almost as big as Halo. Of course both UC & GT are heavily bundled series whereas Halo & Gears aren't but they're still comparable to M$'s biggest.

Then Sony has the massive God of War franchise which is bigger than every M$ franchise but Halo, I think people forget that God of War III went on to sell 6 million units with no bundling and awful advertising, it's also in an unpopular genre and had no multiplayer. Word of mouth and fan power alone is why GoW is so huge, I doubt Halo would be much bigger if it weren't for M$'s fantastic marketing team (I guess being a FPS helps too).

Then there is Sony's other big franchises like the 3-5 million (per game) selling LittleBigPlanet, the 2-3m (pg) selling Killzone, 1.5-2.5m (pg) selling inFAMOUS, the 2-4m (pg) selling Resistance. Don't forget Heavenly Sword, Heavy Rain, Motorstorm etc which all manage 1-2 million.

Other notable M$ franchise's are Fable and Forza which are quite big at 3-5m (pg) but like UC & GT they're also heavily bundled and Fable 1 & 3 is available on PC. To be fair even Gears of War isn't first party, if Epic wanted to they could go multiplatform.

In terms of first party games, without question Sony > Microsoft.

clintagious6504078d ago (Edited 4078d ago )

I never counted them out to begin with. MS has shown early in the 360's lifespan that they can dish out great exclusives with, Crackdown, Lost Odyssy, Alan Wake & their main franchises like Forza, Halo, Gears but for the last half of the 360's lifespan its been rather disappointing because other then halo/gears/forza there hasnt been much other then 3rd party games u can also play on other systems. They need to go back to the formula that they started with early in the 360's lifespan if they dont want to lose their core audience because if they keep focusing on kinect games & add 2 or 3 new IP's for their nextbox & think that'll be enough then they will lose MOST of their core base.

Edit: Also forgot to add that State of Decay looks pretty cool for an xbl game. Whats so hard about making new IP's like this forms? I dont give a sh*t how much money kinect brings in for them, I just want NEW GAMES that cater to us core gamers. Is dat so hard for them to do? Smh.

TheEnigma3134078d ago

Uncharted 3 is closing in on 6 million sales fyi.

Drekken4078d ago (Edited 4078d ago )

I haven't been keeping up with game sales totals, but UC3 deserves the sales. Very impressive.

EDIT: I had to look it up - Uncharted (Ps3 games) have totaled almost 16.5 million units sold. Very Nice. By comparison Gears 1-3 sold 18.33 million. Gears 3 has 5.76mil sold and UC3 is 5.67mil. This guy is a troll.

kayoss4078d ago

Looking at sales number can be decieving. Halo and gears are very good game. UC3 and god of war are very good game. But when you look at the sale numbers for UC3 and god of war it may not compare to Halo and Gears. Everyone have to admit though Gears, Halo, UC3, and god of war are better games then Call of duty series. but COD outsold all of them combined, does that make cod a better game? of course not. I prefer to think that most PS3 exclusive games gear towards the more older and mature audience who are not into shooters. Where as xbox 360 games are gear toward the FPS audience. This is true when you look at the sale numbers of Killzone and resistance to games like gran turismo, GOW, Uncharted.

Tito084078d ago (Edited 4078d ago )

@ Drekken, since you're using the other old games to win an argument you already lost, didn't you forget Uncharted sales total is almost 17 million?? that's without counting Golden Abyss, & the first Uncharted sold very well for a game that didn't have online multiplayer.. Of course is a bit less than Gears,but what if Uncharted 1 had multiplayer?? also Uncharted 2 have met a lot of critical praise & lots of awards, something your precious Gears lacked in the first place!!

Karpetburnz4078d ago

Gears of War 2 and 3 cant even outsell Uncharted 2 and 3 let alone every Sony first part exclusive combined LOL

Gran Turismo 5 sold 9 million not including Prologue.
Uncharted 2 sold over 6 million.
Uncharted 3 is close to 6 million.

Gears of War 2 sold 6 million
Gears of war 3 is close to 6 million. (keep in mind that GoW 2 was released before UC2 and GoW 3 was released before UC3)

Please get your facts straight.

calis4078d ago

"last time i checked just one of microsoft's exclusives (gears of war 3) out sold all of sonys first party exclusives combined that is a fact"

lolwat?

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Jek_Porkins4078d ago

It'll be a lot closer in terms of exclusives this generation because Microsoft has beefed up their studios in house. Instead of going out and buying a ton of studios, they opened their own.

Black Tusk Studios is a name people will need to remember next generation. Microsoft also has around 20 studios now, which is impressive.

Just looking forward to the creativity that they can offer next gen.

InTheLab4078d ago

Most of those are Kinect studios.. They have 3 more studios than Sony but they're just not using them effectively. ....

Jek_Porkins4078d ago

Most are Kinect studios? Get out of here. When was the last first party Kinect game released? Fable The Journey? They haven't even been releasing Kinect first party games.

DigitalSmoke4078d ago

Lol gtfo m8
Sony has more proven development studio's then nintendo
and Microsoft combined.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7221h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle8h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18816h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio5h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7757m ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga8h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21837h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga6h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus231h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7254m ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10111h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-13m ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac9h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead35m ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 7h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken17h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 3h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 2h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 3h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola23h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 2h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 1h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 18h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 15h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 13h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 6h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 8h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 4h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 15h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 1h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 1h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 17h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 14h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 16h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 15h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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