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Sony has Learned from Their Mistakes, the PS4 will Start Strong

Playeressence's Furious Francis discuss how the PS4 will hit the ground running next generation. Plus, how Sony can avoid the pitfalls the PS3 had against Microsoft and Nintendo's Systems.

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mochachino4097d ago

Biggest problem with PS3 was lack of quality online, difficult hardware, and price.

So yeah, Sony has learned from their mistakes and is in a good position to excel this gen.

Theyellowflash304097d ago

I thought the online was pretty good. Then again I'm not huge on Xbox Live.

Skips4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

I thought the online was pretty good too. Even before PS+ happened. After PS+, PSN (or SEN) has been the best in terms of getting the most bang for your buck for online entertainment on consoles IMO.

ON A SIDE NOTE: Did any of you guys receive $10 for the PSN store via message from Sony for being a "loyal customer"?

saladthieves4097d ago

Considering they were just launching the PS3, I would say the online portion of it was not really a problem. It was more of the cost of the hardware and lack of huge lineup of launch games. Besides, it was unfair to compare it to Xbox Live then, which had years to mature.

Fast-forward on today - and I can easily say that the PSN is more than a contender to Xbox Live, especially when you factor in PS+. I am honestly glad I subscribed. If Sony just continues to give us gamers what we want (GAMES), I'm going to keep buying them. It's okay if they branch out a bit, but as long as their focus remains in delivering good quality games (unlike Microsoft), I'll keep on subscribing.

360ICE4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

It didn't have ingame XMB at release. You had to quit the game to read messages. No, it did not have good online at release compared to Xbox. It was free, though, which is a plus. And after a couple of updates the online is very decent indeed. PS Plus is fantastic.

Gazondaily4097d ago

The online was terrible, what are you on about? It was very basic at its core. Quitting to the dashboard to read messages? What was up with that? No XMB overlay?

Seriously, how do you people not remember? And it paled in comparison to Xbox Live.

deafdani4097d ago

I think he meant at launch. The PS3's online today is a beast, but it was VERY different back in its first year. Back then, it sucked balls compared to Live on the 360.

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Bathyj4097d ago

None of those thing really mattered in the end. Xbox releasing a year early has been the only real difference.

If you dont agree then think what PS3's sales would be to XB if it had released on the same day.

And remember everyone always says it was a year late, but it was a year and a half in Europe which is Sonys most popular territory.

Gaming_Guru4097d ago

I would agree, especially since the first generation xbox 360's had no HDMI and were breaking down like crazy the one year allowed them to recover in time for the PlayStation 3.

As with the online, it's the same as it was from launch, it's just that developers add more features now, unlike with Xbox Live having everything set up by Microsoft.

NastyLeftHook04097d ago

lack of quality online? hey journey is a awesome goty online game.

ozstar4097d ago

If its not cheaper than Wii U and 720, they've made the same mistake.

Quote me on this.

Hicken4097d ago

It doesn't have to be cheaper. It just shouldn't be markedly more expensive. As long as the base model isn't some $150 dollars more than the top model for the competition, they'll be alright.

Assuming it's worth the asking price, of course.

Theyellowflash304097d ago

It needs to be reasonably priced though. $399 is the sweet spot for a lot of core gamers. Casuals will like it around $250 before they jump on.

K1SSMYAZZ4097d ago

What makes people think that Microsoft is not themselves on the point of bringing out a better console?

I believe Microsoft was and has always been til this day one step ahead of Sony. Every single move they made Microsoft has intelligently counter it.

So once again, Sony is behind as always, which is why they are planning to hit first compared to last time when they were full themselves.

FamilyGuy4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

So wrong here.

The 360 had no hdmi, no wifi, no mandatory hard drive, still uses dvd9 for its games, battery powered controllers instead of rechargeable ones aaaand rushed their product to market causing tons of returned models which hurt their reputation big time. Microsoft is and has always been way behind sony, no where near steps ahead. They played catch up by adding the features the could in the Elite model.

They followed both Sony and Nintendo's footsteps by releasing a interactive camera peripheral and then chasing the casual market. MS is only good at throwing glitter in the eyes of consumers, it may sparkle at first but all they really did was blind you.

Gazondaily4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

@Familyguy

You're right on many of the points but MS was WAY ahead in the online arena, there is simply no arguing against it. Even to this day, the PS3 cannot do what the 360 was doing pretty much day one.

Also, MS was ahead in its UI and ideas such as achievements etc.

Your last paragraph is just nonsense in my opinion. MS followed both Sony and MS?

I'm sorry but was it Sony that, having seen what the Wii was doing, did a last minute botch job that was the SixAxis without the rumble feature. How well did Sony implement that? And look at Move. At least MS committed to their piece of hardware; again what did Sony do? They copy Nintendo and then do a half-arsed job with a piece of hardware they devoted most of the E3 show to.

Let's not forget the huge mistake that was the CELL processor and how the vast majority of multiplat games suffered on the PS3.

The glitter appears to be in your eyes mate. Whilst I'm not suggesting MS was ahead of the curve, I think they were far more clued up this gen.

andibandit4097d ago

mochachino you're forgetting

Launch Lineup.
Marketing.

BullyMangler4097d ago

and dont forget they lack comfort . fart! ..

Karpetburnz4097d ago

The biggest mistakes Sony made was the huge price and lack of advertising. apart from that I think It was great.

It seems Sony has learned a lot from their mistakes and they wont let the competition get the lead so easily again. Now that the PS4 will most likely be released before the next Xbox, Im positive Sony will lead next generation.

Muffins12234097d ago

why did you get disagrees D: what you said was true!

1upgamer994097d ago

I will bet that the ones who disagree with your comment did not have PS3 at launch, because you are correct. Those who disagree are more than likely owners of PS3 at least 6 months after launch.

Clarence4097d ago

Never had a problem with online. I was happy with my PS3 right of the box.

Qrphe4096d ago

I'd say lack of games was a bigger issue than online quality.

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miyamoto4097d ago

I hope Kaz get rid of the bureaucracy inside Sony for speedy implementation of his plans for PS4 and PS Vita.

first1NFANTRY4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Yes Sony has learned their mistake and i hope the MEDIA has too. They where quick to rule out and call the ps3 a failure before it even got a chance to prove itself. Fast forward years later and it's quite evident the naysayers have all eaten a massive amount of crow.

It's funny how the MEDIA has changed their tone this time around and are ridding the hype train for the ps4 reveal. Guess they've come to realize just how important it is for the industry and their wallets for Sony to remain in the gaming industry.

As of right now i think most rational gamers would agree that sony are the only console makers giving the hardcore audience what they want, CORE GAMES!!!

saladthieves4097d ago

As of right now, they are giving me what I want (games) and they are delivering in so many variations of exclusives and genres.

The only problem I currently face (and probably others here as well) is every time one of their exclusive comes out (and they are many), I don't have the cash to keep up, AND still get to play other games (3rd party titles, etc). This has been eased with their awesome PS+ service.

Some herp people say having too many exclusives is not a good thing derp. I'd take many exclusives over less to no exclusives any day of any gaming generation, thank you very much.

insomnium24097d ago

I agree with everything you said except I don't think the media has learned anything.

They hype now for teh hits and once Sony reveals anything it will go straight back to doom no matter what they announce. The amount of hits is just too good to pass up on with doom Playstation/Sony-stories.

I would really like to be proven wrong about this but I won't be holding my breath over it. I saw how s*it went down with PS3.

Godmars2904097d ago

Should be "If Sony Has Learned From Their Mistakes." Thought really, beside failing with 3rd party support, advertising, they didn't do much wrong.

PopRocks3594097d ago

I would assume they would learn a thing or two after the PS3. Anyway, why is this article in the Wii U section?

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Game Studio Closures, Entertainment News, Disney, And More Skewedcast

The full Skewedcast crew back for this episode and Gareth, Justin, Michael, and JoeyZ at Skewed and Reviewed break down the latest entertainment news qith a focus at 40:00 on the Microsoft Studio Closures and how it impacts the game community and what can be done to help offset this negative trend.

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What is the point of Xbox?

Xbox has repeated the same terrible mistakes for over a decade. The reason is simple: its priorities are back-to-front.

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purple10123h ago

ohhh man, the press really did not like those last closures, their having a field day bashing xbox,

anyway, ive got to nip off to the shops now, i've run out of microwave popcorn.

Jingsing8h ago

Apparently the last 10 years wasn't enough to get the gaming press to notice but as soon as they touch Bethesda it is full on nuclear war. A lot of people in the gaming press seem to have this irrational hard on for Fallout and Skyrim despite the fact they are low quality poor buggy games.
I've grown tiresome of the unbalanced fandom in the gaming press for fantasy games and their ability to just forgive crap so long as it's a fantasy game RPG game all quality concerns are not an issue for them,

anast7h ago

Popcorn has been good lately.

PapaBop4h ago

Clearly this is just a big conspiracy orchestrated by the popcorn industry, Microsoft are just their puppets, every time they open their mouths, I'm forced to stock up on popcorn.

XiNatsuDragnel22h ago

Xbox is getting rightfully roasted here

Einhander197221h ago

The only point to xbox is and always has been to take market share and money from PlayStation and Nintendo, but mostly PlayStation. It's been the goal since sweaty Steve Balmer said it himself.

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ApocalypseShadow15h ago

Yup. To put Sony out of business because they thought they were a threat to their Windows business.

solideagle3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Genuinely curious: how is Sony (hardware company) threat to Windows (operating system/software company) business?

isarai19h ago

I mean the motto "xbox, the most optional console ever made" was peaked years ago, people are just now taking a step back from deepthroating Phil to see what we've all been seeing for a long time now.

P_Bomb18h ago

I’ve still got friends that main on XB. For their sake, I hope it sticks around. They’ve put everything into that ecosystem. It’s all or nothing.

I wonder if we’ll ever get back the level of competition seen during the 360/PS3 era?

NotoriousWhiz8h ago

Seems like Daddy Microsoft is trying to shut it down. Or at least bring costs under control. On the bright side, it seems likely that acquisitions are going to stop.

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Xbox, do you even have a plan anymore?

TSA asks what is the future for Xbox.

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Chocoburger1d ago

They clearly never did, hence why they spent so many BILLIONS on other publishers as a last resort.

anast23h ago

They have a plan. It's to move everything toward streaming and mobile. This is just the next step.

Cacabunga22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

With half of the money they spent, they could have been on the very top and the gaming industry would be way bigger than it is.. encourage developers, indies, make them grow trust them and they will deliver.

Tody_za21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

What are you talking about Cacabunga? The Xbox faithful insisted that Microsoft has infinite money, and after Activision they should buy Square Enix and Capcom before Sony does. There was no chance ever that Microsoft would do this. They would use their infinite millions and Bitcoins to invest in 50 new IP and beat everyone.

Tody_za19h ago

Did I really need to add a /s to my comment...

SonyStyled17h ago

The Parent company of Xbox spent billions on publishers, not Xbox

andy8522h ago

To ruin great studios it's looking like

Skuletor22h ago

Sure, a plan to be a more hated game company than EA. Ubisoft were recently giving them a run for their money but I think Xbox have really knocked it out the park with their latest stunt.

neutralgamer199222h ago

Absolutely not, their whole plan is at odd with what MS wants

Phil wants GP to become big
MS wants to sell games and make billions

GP can’t be sustained with AAA games which take 3-5 years and 7 figure budgets. Only go put those games on GP day one. Why do you think games are coming out on other platforms?

People want a change and want Phil gone without realizing if someone new comes along they may want to change everything again so we just keep going in circles. Phil has to realize that and give clear message on the direction of Xbox

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