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Nintendo Should Become A Pure Software Developer

"Nintendo have put themselves in a precarious position in terms of hardware releases. With the Wii and now the Wii U looking to be well weaker than their generational counterparts, Nintendo are forcing gamers to buy more than one console to appreciate a good variety of gaming. " | Explosion.com

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animegamingnerd4100d ago

did people forget why sega had to become software developer?

Gazondaily4099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

Completely disagree with the article. The Wii U hasn't even gotten off the ground yet and people are making knee jerk reactions of gloom and doom. By this logic and the PS3's rocky start, Sony should have thrown the towel too.

Like it or not, it is Nintendo that pushes the boundaries as far as innovation is concerned. The industry needs the likes of Nintendo to add something fresh and to innovate in terms of hardware. Nintendo's departure from the hardware game would be a COLOSSAL loss for the industry.

nukeitall4099d ago

Nintendo often has a strategy that ensures survival even if their platform tanks.

That said, it is just too soon to judge the Wii U out. Similar to how Nintendo turned the 3DS fortune around and look at them now.

FriedGoat4099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

That "innovation" is what has totally put me off Nintendo, I loved the N64, I loved the Cube and everything before it, The Wii on the other-hand just wasn't for me, every game I played seemed like a dumbed down version of its predecessor. I liked galaxy and G2 don't get me wrong, but I preferred Mario 64, I'm still waiting on a sequel.

Its things like warioware, have you played the wii version? It has like NO content at all, after playing twisted on the GBA Warioware wii is like less than a quarter of the game. The control schemes actually tended to ruin the games for me, skyward sword is one of the only Zeldas I have stopped playing, mainly because there was no exploration and it just generally was nowhere near the quality of past Zeldas.

The 3DS is the same, had one since launch, the games are like 30+ quid and not even 5 hours long (kid icarus being the exception.) I feel really screwed over by Nintendo for my 3DS purchase, £250 for something that just attracts dust.

I do know one thing, If the WiiU does do badly it will be good for us, because Nintendo will start focusing on games again instead of attracting casuals and moms wanting to get fit.

2pacalypsenow4099d ago

used to be the same for Ps3 , with time it will pass

OccludedGamer4099d ago

Careful Septic that's a lot of sense your making there, it's borderline dangerous round here.

Seriously though, I don't blame the gamers for the reception the Wii-U is receiving. I blame the journalists. Gaming media is the cause.

Unless the standard for gaming journalism is raised then we're gonna be stuck with these sorts of crappy baseless opinions springing up all over the place.

I'm not even on about the writing skills, that's not even the issue. I would happily read an article with bad spelling etc. provided the author took the time to make a well thought out article with a genuine point.

squarecircle4099d ago

How do you expect it to get off it's feet when there are 2 more technically powerful consoles on the horizon which everyone is waiting out for?

PS3 could afford a price cut and was one of the last to launch, which meant it had time to recover without other consoles looming over it.

The Wii U is in neither of those positions the PS3 was in. It can't afford a price cut or that would mean they need to sell 3 or 4 games with each console to make a profit and they have 2 highly anticipated machines on the horizon; which everyone is waiting for.

Gazondaily4099d ago

Nintendo doesn't need the power. So what if the other two consoles are technically superior; it doesn't undermine Nintendo's ability to deliver great games.

AAACE54099d ago

I used to think it would be good for them to drop consoles, but seeing the direction the games industry is going... we need them more than ever!

Because of ms and sony. Lots of developers are gone. Cost are up on consoles and games. Pc's require a lot more power just to say they have the superior game. We have less choice in variety of games and releases per year. And that will only get worse in time as developers wont be able to afford development and investors will only want to put their money on AAA games and very few new IP.

Nintendo keeps things in reality. By trying to show us that you dont need a super powerful console to have fun!

ahronith4099d ago

This whole talk about Nintendo consoles dont have enough power...By that logic the PS2 should have tanked. And Septic, i agree with you 100%

herbs4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Anyone who disagreed with what Septic stated in his first post doesn't have a good grasp of the gaming industry strait up.

DomceM4098d ago

lol. Old hardware is innovation? nah. Nintendo is one gimmick ahead of everyone else. wish they just made a normal console with good hardware and their ips.

Wii mote was a gimmick and still is.

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FlyingFoxy4099d ago

You can't use the Sega argument here with the Wii U, Dreamcast was ahead of it's time for at least a year and then some. games were much better looking than N64 and it had plenty of perfect and better arcade ports as well as a handful of very good exclusives.

Wii U is only a bit better than last gen which started a long time ago, so it's a completely different kettle of fish here. Sega had to go into developing software because the hype of PS2 killed off the DC, not because it was a bad system.

Zodiac4100d ago

Want to play PlayStation games? Buy a PlayStation.

Want to play Xbox games? Buy and Xbox.

Want to play Nintendo games? Buy a Nintendo console.

If people want to play a certain companies game, but won't buy the hardware, then you probably don't want to play it that badly.

Nintendo is not going to stop production of hardware because the consumer would rather play Zelda on the 360.

Sure, they would get more money by going third party/publisher, but the companies put a lot of pride into these consoles. Sure, the industry is all about money, but then people forget why they went into the industry to begin with. They love to play and make video games.

The only way for Nintendo to leave hardware is if they go bankrupt, which is probably not going to happen with over 15 billion dollars in cash reserves.

PopRocks3594099d ago

"If people want to play a certain companies game, but won't buy the hardware, then you probably don't want to play it that badly."

I think this part of it sums it up best for me. I mean hey, I already get labeled as a fanboy all too consistently on this site, so I may as well be honest.

I don't mind buying Nintendo hardware for Nintendo games, mostly because I know what I'm getting out of it is a fun experience for myself. Other people have typed back to me how it's a waste of money for one reason or another, but as long as I'm enjoying myself and I'm satisfied with the end result how is it a waste?

It's not like Microsoft and Sony are forever cutting edge with their hardware either; the PS1 and PS2 were the weakest consoles of their generation and PCs almost always outdo new consoles within a few years, sometimes months.

You would not ask for Sony and Microsoft to make their games on PC for this reason (though Microsoft has occasionally tried to take a bite out of the PC crowd before, but nothing too ambitious).

FriedGoat4099d ago

lol Microsoft has tried to take a bite out of the PC crowd before? Microsoft was a PC only company all but 12 years ago.

And Sony still publish games on the PC, Planetside for instance.

Oh_Yeah4098d ago

Gears of war, halo, fable, Alan Wake, crackdown, they're all on pc..The only exclusive AAA franchise that Microsoft didn't put on pc is Forza And pc's are always more powerful than consoles...chu smoking on?

ahronith4099d ago

Zelds on 360...that just sounds wrong.
*throws up in mouth a little*

jacksheen00004099d ago

The problem is Nintendo lack the resources to make quality games.

All Nintendo really have under their belt is Retro; which I m afraid to say isn't enough manpower to crank out games in a timely manner.

Now we all know that the Wii U is a underpowered gaming console, but to say its was the fault of the weak CPU/GPU is not realistic thinking.

Realistically, what seem to be the case here,is They're stubbornness to take on the gaming with very little game development resources was suicide.

All this could have been prevented a long long time ago. They're strict low cost policy seems to get them in trouble every single time.

Sadly, They can't seem to let go to the fact that going beyond the outter limitation to spend more money is key to stay on top of business market.

Next time, Nintendo stay away from making any bold statements in the future.

Nuff said!

animegamingnerd4099d ago

what you mean they lack resources to make quality games have you seen the scores both mario galaxy's got and what about monolith many people consider xneoblade to be one of the bets RPG'S this gen

jacksheen00004099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

xneoblade and Mario galaxy are both excellent game.

But what I meant is Nintendo don't have the manpower/enough R&D divisions to support all of our gaming demands, both causal and core.

Recently, Just about every game released by Nintendo so far is either Mario, rehashed(games/DLC), causal games, mini games, etc.

And the only way I think Nintendo is going to dreamcast their way out of this sh_t hole is buy more game studios or hire more experienced DEv. Hiring THQ employee was a good start.

AdvanceWarsSgt4099d ago

Intelligent Systems is chop liver now??? They just released arguably the best Fire Emblem in the franchise, created and developed the awesome Advance Wars series, and have made good-great games on all of Nintendo's handhelds.

Adnan_rules4099d ago

nintendo dont make quality games? sony and microsoft dont compare to sonys first party franchises

RFornillos44099d ago

"The problem is Nintendo lack the resources to make quality games."

yes, that's the problem of Nintendo. they don't make quality games. they only have 3 or more games in the top 10 video games of all time in most listings and reviews, with the 2 or 3 in the top 5, one of which is the no. 1.

shame nintendo, shame. next time, aim for 10 out 10...

Kos-Mos4099d ago

Why do you still comment after your nuff`said ????????????????????????

jacksheen00004099d ago

Simple.

If someone ask me to explain my commit further to get a better idea on what I m trying to say, than I do it.
Anything out side of that I will simple just ignore it.

does that answer your question?

VikTheStampede4099d ago

LOL, what? XDD

If anything where nintenod falls behind in its hardware, they more than make up for it with its fantastic software.

Realplaya4099d ago

Yu have a point but I don't think they have a lack of resourses. The mario games are ok to me Nintendo is the king of 2d and 3d platformers but what hurts them is they jumped on the HD bandwagon so late that there basically playing catch up hell they even admitted it. With that said they now are gaining experience I will go on record and put this out there what ever mario game they create next will look sexy amd play like a beast.

deafdani4098d ago

You really have no idea of the ridiculous amount of game studios that Nintendo owns, do you? They're easily one of the biggest game publishers out there, if not the biggest.

Your argument isn't grounded in reality at all.

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WeAreLegion4099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

I understand the "If you want to play Nintendo games, buy a Nintendo system." mentality, but there are so few games on the Nintendo platforms that I want to play. I can't justify paying so much for a system when there are only a few games I will play. My Wii U was a gift, so I will never sell it. I just wish there were more quality games coming out for it. :/

TechnicianTed4099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

I can understand that. I didn't buy a ps3 until 3 years after it launched, because there was nothing on it I wanted to play until then. And the price was way too high.

At the end of the day though it's all down to preference. The Nintendo systems have always had games on them I loved that the other systems didn't offer.

Not everyone is going to have the same tastes, it doesn't mean a system is bad because you don't like the games on it, it just means you don't like the games.

I'm sure things will pick up for the Wii U, it's just got off to a very slow start. Nintendo won't give up on it though, it will just take time for the libary to build up.

TruthbeTold4099d ago

Well, since you never buy Nintendo consoles, and your Wii U was a gift, then hopefully between the Wii games you've missed, and the games for Wii U that you like, you'll have plenty of good gaming to supplement whatever your other favorite(s) are.

Look on the bright side. :D

schlanz4098d ago

Its called time.

Give it some time.

The ps3 didn't start rocking until mid to late 2009.

Better example perhaps is the 3ds, it started off awfully weak but is now shaping up to be more than a worthy successor to the sublimely awesome DS. Systems dont become must-own overnight.

WeAreLegion4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Good responses, guys! I did actually own a Wii and have played most of the great Wii games. In fact, I just bought Metroid Prime 3 yesterday. It's one that I loved, but never finished. :) The Weird thing is...for me, the PS3 was a hit from day one. I played RFOM online for months! Motorstorm and the great PANEL games helped, as well. I'm easily pleased by Sony, it seems.

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millzy1024099d ago

i don't see it as forcing me, ive been playing nintendo longer than playstation and xbox, does that mean there forcing me to buy there consoles for there games, no. i like nintendo games so i buy nintendo hardware, i like sony games so i buy playstation and i used to like xbox games so i had an xbox, its about what i want as a gamer/ consumer and like the dude said above if people want to play nintendo games but not on nintendo hardware then they don't to play them that much. i never own just 1 console i like to have them all anyway.

besides nintendo would go purely hand held before 3rd party.

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno4d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."