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The Next Xbox Could Phase Out Physical Hard Drive In Favor Of Cloud Storage

Boston (TheNextXbox) – When the Xbox 360 released, it was launched in two forms, one with a 20GB hard drive, and another without the added storage. The next Xbox may not even require a huge hard drive if Microsoft continues the push to the cloud. Playing Xbox Live Arcade games in the cloud may be the best route to take.

The next Xbox is likely going to make a big push to adopt cloud gaming across all of its platforms. What this could mean is the end of saving games, even game purchases, your physical hard drive.

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dangert124088d ago

And why would anyone want that?

morkendo234088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

if this rumor is true that could mean make it or break it for MS and recent generation of gamers ends with beginning of digital content generation. no one in there right mind want digital content only. something you cant physically own is not worth buying.

Flavor4088d ago

"something you cant physically own is not worth buying."

What a thoughtless statement. Do people physically own all those billions of songs on their iphones?

Do the millions of steam users physically own any of their games?

Do people physically own their facebook pages which they slave over endlessly? Or their reddit accounts?

Let's see how much people value physical discs when the digital copies undercut them by 50% or more. Let's see , shall we? Or are industry experts, Apple, Valve, and MS's entire strategic planning division just fools?

jmc88884088d ago (Edited 4087d ago )

@flavor, wow simply wow.

At least the media is on YOUR storage device.

Mp3's are actually much like how your stuff is saved on your own hard drive, not cloud.

Look cloud is good for BACKUP purposes, like what Steam does. But if it's solely cloud, wow, simply wow. What a bonehead call.

Also...you actually really think they'll cut prices by 50 percent or more by getting rid of the disc? Sure, I'll believe that when the U.S. Gov't passes Glass-Steagall and actually prosecutes Wall Street fraud. Actually still I wouldn't.

Actually Facebook owns your details and sell you down the river to any company or gov't agency that wants it. Facebook is one foolish thing to put all your info on. It's also a fad and worthless company. Myspace anyone?

No, your interpretation is foolish. You have your saves on your own HD AND have backup with Valve. Your games are on your hd. Steam's games aren't cloud games.

They were saying, and see if you can tell the difference, that your saves wouldn't be on your hd, but on THEIR cloud system. (and not just saves, but digital games like live arcade or your dlc..which means just like in some cases you wouldn't be able to access your saves to the last couple of levels you would be open to some of your games not being able to be accessed at all, or the DLC packs to some of your favorite FPS)

So just when you're about to start up the game and play the last level or two, you can't access your cloud files...doh.

darthv724087d ago

remember, the emphasis is on the word "could". that isnt an automatic guarantee.

Plus it was referring to "hard drive" not the physical games themselves. So in essence you would still be able to buy your physical games and be able to have your saves in cloud storage.

As far as dlc, yeah that "could" be in cloud or you "could" use your own external storage (flash drive).

I dont see an issue with them going that route provided the games themselves are on a format that is sufficient for the developers to stop bitching about. Meaning they are using 25-50gb+ media.

Lets just wait and see what is officially revealed with BOTH sony and MS.

CalvinKlein4087d ago

This will never happen. sorry, it honestly doesnt even make sense. Are we to stream every game we buy digitally from them. Id imagine it would cost them too much and wouldnt be as good as what we have now. This is stupid and if this happened it would be a day 1 FAILURE.

Gimmemorebubblez4088d ago

"could"
Aweh just keep your pants on until Microsoft unveils the 720 and stop these rumours.

LackTrue4K4088d ago

Hope this rumor is not true!!
That will almost mean you will need to be an active live member, if not... You can forget of playing you single players games too.

Rainstorm814088d ago

^^^^this is the exact problem with this entire idea, even worse people will probably wear it as a badge of honor the fact they need to have Live to play SP games.....kinda like they do now with XBL

Christopher4088d ago

Won't happen.

1. Broadband connections aren't used by all 360 owners as it is.

2. Internet caps exist.

3. Brick & Mortar retailers are the best way to sell games and hardware. Moving to a digital focus will mean they will start reducing shelf space and ad placement for their products. Imagine the whole Xbox section ends up being a display model at the end of an aisle, no game aisle or room for accessories.

JBSleek4088d ago

Great point but this broadband excuse is getting old. In all sectors. Why do we stop innovation or progress just because everyone doesn't have fast internet.

It could take decades to ensure everyone has super fast internet.

Technology shouldn't wait till everyone has something.

I agree with your point they wont and shouldn't do this but doesn't mean we should stop progress because some cant take advantage of it.

Rainstorm814088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

In this instance it would greatly decrease the XBox target audience.....just look at how many 360 have been sold and how many active gold accounts there are.

I agree we shouldn't stop progress but something like this should be an option at best

Christopher4088d ago

***Great point but this broadband excuse is getting old. In all sectors. Why do we stop innovation or progress just because everyone doesn't have fast internet. ***

Because you design based on the lowest common denominator. You do that so as to ensure the largest possible audience.

Cloud could be an alternative option, but you'd have to ensure that enough people would use it. The problem is, why would people use that over what we have now where they can trade in their games and buy at discounted prices after 3 months that put digital offerings to shame (Steam and those not tied directly to producers not withstanding).

***Technology shouldn't wait till everyone has something.***

When it comes to a mass market product, yeah, it actually should. If they do this, you can guarantee it will cost more than what we currently pay for our games and hardware because their market will be much smaller and they will have an expectation on making more money in the future than they did this generation.

jmc88884087d ago

Not every 'invention' is progress. Was the nuclear bomb progress? Were derivatives? Were photo radar? Were drones?

Everyone should realize technology can be good or bad, used correctly, or misused.

The cloud has a purpose, though it's not what is being pushed. Right now valve has it right, your game saves are backed up via their cloud.

Meanwhile if they want to cut out a hd to utilize the cloud, that's actually a step back. Now you'll have to worry about outages when you want to play games. It would mean you have to be connected or you can't save.

Actually progress is something we don't even strive for anymore, it's sad. But that's what happens when Wall Street banks and hedge funds rule the world (i.e. all 'advanced economy' gov'ts.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7215h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle2h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Cacabunga1h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218356m ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

purple1014h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos4h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac3h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1012h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic56m ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 11h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 9h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 6h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN23h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 1h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies21h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 9h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic19h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9018h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 11h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 10h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 7h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 10h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 9h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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