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Microsoft reacts to next-gen Xbox rumours

Microsoft has released a statement in response to rumours about the next-generation Xbox.

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nrvalleytime4096d ago

Typical press language - non affirmation and non-denial. I know this probably isn't the case, but surely they cannot be greedy to the point of banning used games - it's a market that has thrived since first beginning in yard sales, and a move like that would only serve to alienate a fan base.

IAMERROR4096d ago

I find this highly unlikely to happen, MS was one of the major publishers to not do Online passes for their games. If MS and/or Sony do this it would only hurt themselves. Forget all these rumors, let's just wait a few more weeks :)

Shadow Flare4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

MS didn't do online passes because they already make you pay to play online. Can you imagine paying for the game, then paying for Xbox live to play the online part of the game you've already bought, and then paying for an online pass to play online which you've paid for to play the online part of the game you've already paid for?

To be honest I'm surprised Microsoft didn't do online passes

IAMERROR4096d ago

Exactly what I mean, they could've done it. lol
rumors be getting outta hand MS betta hurry up :P

MikeMyers4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Why would Microsoft confirm or deny it when they can sit back and laugh at all the reactions on the internet? Do you think they care about all the negativity they have received over the years since they announced they were getting into the console market? People thought the Xbox 360 would be a failure, not be supported beyond 4 years like the original. They thought Kinect wouldn't sell. They thought the lack of AAA exclusives would be the death of them.

People will always paint a negative outlook on them (Nintendo and Sony are not immune to it either on forums). Now here we are with them selling roughly 76 million systems and still selling over 8 years later. If the rumors start hurting their stock then yes, they may say something. But right now there's no need to.

According to the internet nobody should be buying Call of Duty games. Look how much influence that had.

AAACE54096d ago

I remember a time when companies like ms used to say "we dont comment on rumors and speculation". I guess either times have changed or there is some truth to it.

Dont think im bashing... because its said that sony was planning something similar with ps4.

Hopefully this will send a message to both companies so they can switch their strategy.

EVILDEAD3604096d ago

'Why would Microsoft confirm or deny it when they can sit back and laugh at all the reactions on the internet?'

@ Mike

Well Said.

If companies respond to every bogus rumor then it rewards these hit seeking blogger for spreading misinformation.

Even if Sony spills the beans in Feb, all eyes will still be on MS at E3 and that's a position that they would want to be in.

It's Feb and no one will even care about these silly rumors in July.

The story of the internet gaming world...

Evil

pandaboy4096d ago

The always online and no used games policy was probably leaked on purpose by microsoft to test public reaction. Reaction deems it a mistake.

hazardman4096d ago

Not really because when you buy it new it already comes with the pass. The people who buy used are the ones paying for online pass. That's why I believe if you can, buy new, plus it seems like developers are adding little extras for buying new/preordering.

Ju4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

MS is behind...I don't expect Sony to fully reveal the PS4 in February. They will just realse so much info that people get really hyped to see the "real" thing at E3.

I cannot see how MS can counter that other then also releasing some information before E3...Sony will have a massive presentation there, too, just to make sure MS won't sail away with the show.

They sure doing this Feb event because they are very serious about this this time around.

Never count out MS, that's for sure. But things really point to a MS-Sony reversal compared to PS3360...

1nsaint4096d ago

@MikeyMyers @EVILDEAD360 why would MS sit back and laugh? They are gonna lose a ton of sales based on all the reactions here on n4g, other gaming sites and youtube videos that discussed this topic

Megaton4096d ago

You do realize XBL Gold is an online pass, right? You have to pay their fee if you wanna play anything online.

_FantasmA_4095d ago

No online pass? What do you think Live is?

kariyanine4095d ago

@Shadow Flare can I imagine it? Sure I can, every third party game on 360 that had an online pass already did this.

Dee_914095d ago

I think react is the wrong word .... more like Microsoft says basically nothing about next gen rumors.
I mean I dont expect them to say anything but the article is misleading

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showtimefolks4095d ago

IAMERROR

i guess when you pay $5-60 each year that in a way is for online pass, sad thing is MS releases maybe 2-3 great exclusives so if they did have online passes gamers might have saved $20-30 bucks lol

I don't think any publisher has the balls to block used games sales, but you better believe that they will raise the price for online passes to maybe $15.

gamers think they have every right to buy and sell used games

publishers believe they have ever right to make as much money of their IP's as they can

who wins? Publishers, thing is if you like a game than you gonna buy that no matter what, i try to wait for price drops but than i do buy new so the money goes to the publishers/developers

MikeMyers4095d ago (Edited 4095d ago )

1nsaint,

How can they be losing sales on a product that has yet been announced? If the rumors are true then yes, they could lose sales. However as of right now they are just that, rumors.

Like I said earlier, unless Microsoft's stock suddenly takes a tumble they won't worry about what people are saying on forums in response to rumors. It could also be a ploy to get fan reaction but that seems likely since consumers won't want to just give up something for nothing. Either way there is no product yet, therefore no lost sales. In fact there isn't even any pre-orders because nothing has been announced yet.

Gaming1014095d ago

Never underestimate the greed of corporate executives, as they bow to every stupid demand of faceless, greedy shareholders.

insomnium24095d ago

@mike

" People thought the Xbox 360 would be a failure,"

I never saw such talk in such a scale that it could be mentioned like that

"not be supported beyond 4 years like the original."

People said MS would drop support after new gen launched like they did to xbox. This remains yet to be seen after new gen arrives at retail.

"They thought Kinect wouldn't sell."

Noone though it wouldn't sell. My gosh. People knew MS was going to put 0.5 billion into marketting the damn thing so who in their right mind thought it wouldn't sell. People said it would be a bs device for gaming and this has proven to be true.

" They thought the lack of AAA exclusives would be the death of them."

It might be difficult to get the hc-fans on board next gen after the switch they did with x360. Fool me once shame on you....etc. This too remains to be seen.

MikeMyers4095d ago

insomnium2,

The point is forums are not the deciding factor to what actually happens at retail.

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HITANDRUN4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

No, they confirmed that they wont have used games blocked, they said sony has that technology not them.

They actually adressed both issues, people here has a problem understanding whats been said.
They confirm it was a rumour of always online and that they dont have tech to block used games.

The technology to block pre-owned games seems to be in line with what Sony is planning for the next PlayStation.

user39158004096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Many disagrees, lol. I guess the comprehension level here in N4g its extremely low, They did confirmed it, either they cant comprehend english or want to start more rumours.

What part of they dont have the technology to block used games this website forum dont get? Only sony has that technology. Read the article 10x until you are able to get it.

Army_of_Darkness4096d ago

" What part of they dont have the technology to block used games this website forum dont get? Only sony has that technology. Read the article 10x until you are able to get it. "

what article are you referring too?? cause clearly that information is not on this one...

ziggurcat4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

hate to burst your bubble, buddy, but sony's not going to do that either. tretton has publicly stated that he is opposed to blocking used games, that it is anti-consumer.

and before you say, "bu-bu-but they filed a patent!" - sony filed an identical patent prior to the launch of the PS3, and last i checked we can play used games on the PS3.

patents don't matter because most of them don't even see the light of day. that particular patent is no different.

also whenever a company states that they don't comment on rumour or speculation, it's pretty clear that they're hiding something. i don't think MS would implement such a thing, but that type of comment usually isn't good.

@ nlvwithgms: please point out the part in the article where MS says that sony is the only one to have that technology... oh, wait... you can't because the only thing they said in response was that they didn't comment on rumour or speculation.

jmac534096d ago

@ziggurcat: Microsoft never responds to rumors or speculation whether it's a good rumor or a terrible one. They always have the same response. Which is why this article is pointless.

HITANDRUN4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

http://www.arabicgamers.com...

uGH.. WHICH IS WORST? Cant follow links, cant read or just cant comprehend?

Microsoft has released a statement in response to rumours about the next-generation Xbox.

Yesterday it was reported that the next Xbox would require an always-on internet connection and that it wouldn't support second-hand games.

We contacted the platform holder and it revealed that while it is always thinking about the future, it has nothing else to report right now.

"Microsoft does not comment on rumours or speculation," said a Microsoft spokesperson.

"We are always thinking about what is next for our platform, but we don't have anything further to share at this time."

The technology to block pre-owned games seems to be in line with what Sony is planning for the next PlayStation.

It's all speculation for now, but Sony is hosting an event on 20 February where it could officially reveal the PlayStation 4.

greenpowerz4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Like I said I find it odd suddenly so much pro Sony propaganda is coming out and so much anti MSFT misinformation. Sony guys are going to try and destroy the 720's reputation and Sony knows it.

Sony depends on people like shadowflare to troll the webs smearing MSFT a.d praising Sony.

All this Sony hype and anti MSFT noise originated from the leaked 720 docs/rumored specs.

What the heck is Shadow Flare even talking about?
MSFT *supposedly* doesn't allow online passes with their own games or all games? Google's your friend buddy.

cornroves4095d ago

If the statement is not in quotes, then they did not say it buddy just sayin....

BitbyDeath4095d ago

Think you are reading it wrong HitAndRun, all they said was this -

"Microsoft does not comment on rumours or speculation," said a Microsoft spokesperson.

"We are always thinking about what is next for our platform, but we don't have anything further to share at this time."

Neither of that confirms nor denys the rumour.

Mr_Writer854095d ago

That link you posted :D

If you weren't a retard you would see the part where " END. It means that's what MS stopped talking.

Microsoft has released a statement in response to rumours about the next-generation Xbox.

"Microsoft does not comment on rumours or speculation," said a Microsoft spokesperson.

"We are always thinking about what is next for our platform, but we don't have anything further to share at this time." END

Then the website reporting puts...

The technology to block pre-owned games seems to be in line with what Sony is planning for the next PlayStation.

It's all speculation for now, but Sony is hosting an event on 20 February where it could officially reveal the PlayStation 4.

Do you see any " "? No so that means MS never confirmed on denied anything.

You've had a right tard moment there.

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JsonHenry4096d ago

I think it is very likely to happen. PC games make a FORTUNE and the vast majority are tied to a personal account of some sort that makes it impossible to resell or trade. The PC is also proven that always connected internet and digital distribution has reached mainstream potential.

Combine those facts listed above with the fact that Sony/MS both get a royalty fee for every NEW copy sold and the studios also make their money when a new copy of a game is sold and you have the two parties pushing the consoles heavily interested in making sure the only copies sold are new copies and you have the perfect storm for a push to end sales of used games.

I know it seems crazy but just 10 years ago I could trade in my used PC games just like a console game. That is all over now. And the fact that the consoles are just standardized PCs next generation I think you are looking at the beginning of the end of used games if not the actual end itself.

Jazz41084096d ago

I hate to burst anyones opinion but what ms said is in quotes. The website that wrote this is the one that brought sony into this. Thats all.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

"I know this probably isn't the case, but surely they cannot be greedy to the point of banning used games"

Xbox gamers can't allow this.
Next thing they will charge for multi player.. ohhhhhhh

AngelicIceDiamond4095d ago (Edited 4095d ago )

I understand Sony filed the patent years ago before the PS3 came out but they recently refreshed that patent.

Well almost 3 summers ago Sony announce they would put online passes for its exclusive games. They went through with it. It all adds up? Why would the patent resurface after all these years? And why would Sony require online passes for its games this gen?

If the rumor is indeed true it'll more than likely won't be for third party games but Sony's own exclusives.

As for MS, well this leak was inevitable. which makes sense seeing how publishers are fighting against second hand sales.

Either way these rumors are ridiculous and hope aren't true, as with everything Only time will tell.

Gamer19824095d ago (Edited 4095d ago )

Activision will do this next gen you can put your money on that. You will get COD on two discs (sold separate!) one single player and one multi player. Or a subscription service. They tried it already with ELITE.

Banning used games would kill console sales and they know this if they have any sense. Imagine if existing consoles didnt allow used games right? And you today never owned a 360 and fancied playing Halo 3. Tough luck as they no longer make it new and only way you could get it pre-owned. Where as if if it wasnt blocked you could go out buy a new 360 and Halo 3 pre-owned and play. This is of course just an example. But the point is still there. Used games sells consoles too! As it gives you a back catalogue long after the devs stop making it.

isyourhouseonfire4096d ago

Why not ban used games? If I had a business and people were selling my products used, then I also would look at a why to crush that. Sure, they aren't breaking the law, but if I can be smart enough to overcome it then I'll make much more money.

Can't blame MS at all.

jmac534096d ago

Because you are taking away people's rights to their own property. Your logic says that no one has a right to resell their car because the manufacturer is not making any money off the sale. You don't see car makers going out and crushing used car sales.

hellvaguy4096d ago

Theres no "rights" invoked when it comes to software like in a video game. You get whatever rights a company sets for you.

I see the used car example as apples vs oranges. A car is perishable. A video game, for the most part, is not. Steam games follows the business model of tying your game to your account and you cannot resell it.

Now with all that said, I would prefer being able to buy/sell used games. However, I dont see it as a right guarenteed by the constitution or anything on that level.

Mr_Writer854095d ago

Jmac

Where do you go when you're used Ford car breaks down and needs new parts? A garage, and where do they get the parts from? Ford.

So while you may not of bought the car from Ford, if anything breaks Ford get you're money.

imdaboss14096d ago

they need to respond to this cuz its very serious and a lot of people is planning to jump to the ps4..microsoft is getting hit big time cuz of this rumor

_FantasmA_4095d ago

I think ppl were planning on moving to the PS4 anyways. More games, more features, more reliable hardware, free online are just some of the things that Sony offers and for a lower price than M$.

theWB274095d ago (Edited 4095d ago )

How are they getting hit on a product that hasnt been announced. Sells arent dropping...its rumors until they announce what they want to announce. When its officially unvieled and people complain is when they should be worried. Ive never seen a company fail based on a non existent product with bad rumors.

@fantasmA...if people were jumping ship it would have already started this gen. Xbox sells havent dropped and PS3 has been free for quite some time...enough time to have seen the reprocussions this gen,

Ju4095d ago

It's quite surprising that MS got nothing since all those rumors started...first time ever...press time is quite important no matter what you have to say. Wondering why they stay so quiet.

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TheLyonKing4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Basically another standard press release were they don't say they are and don't say they aren't so in essense a non message.

That was pointless.

fluffydelusions4096d ago

I didn't even click the link but I'm just going to guess instead. Something like "we don't comment on rumors" ?

Ezz20134096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

they said
*Microsoft does not comment on rumours or speculation,*

they said it different than the way you wrote it
that worth making article about it /s

BanBrother4096d ago

What would be super trippy is if you asked Microsoft; "It is rumoured you do not comment on rumours and speculation. Is that true?"

They couldn't answer that question with a yes lol.

Ezz20134096d ago

so it's an article about nothing

Foxhound9224096d ago

I hope none of the big 3 block used games. I pay 40 dollars a month for gamefly. Not quite sure what would happen to gamefly if used games wont work. I LOVE gamefly so hopefully not.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7215h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle2h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18813m ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

Cacabunga2h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21831h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga22m ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1015h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos4h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac3h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1013h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 12h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 9h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 7h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 2h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies22h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 9h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic19h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9019h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 11h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 11h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 8h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 10h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 9h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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