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Dear Wii U Developers: You Don’t Need to Use the GamePad Touch Screen

GenGAME writes: "I think Nintendo’s made a major misstep in its message for Wii U. When they unveiled the new Wii U GamePad, they spoke a lot about its capabilities – its dual-analog control with clickable sticks, its + Control Pad and ABXY configuration that has perfect parity with the “classic controller” configuration, added ZL and ZR triggers for maximum input options, and of course, its 16:9 touch screen.

"What I came away with was: “Okay, so this controller offers people tons of options for how they want to develop and play their games.” But what third-party developers seem to have come away with was: “Okay, so now we have to figure out how to implement that added touch screen in some kind of interesting way, just like we did for Wii motion controls last generation.”"

animegamingnerd4105d ago (Edited 4105d ago )

just wondering does nintendo make them have to use it in some way then if so just do something pointless with it like touch it to switch weapons or just put a map there

morpha4105d ago

Ive heard that Nintendo offer incentives to make your game use more of the wiiU's unique features.

animegamingnerd4105d ago

so pretty much nintendo offer's to come up with a way to use the gamepad if you can't think of a way?

Old McGroin4105d ago

"Ive heard that Nintendo offer incentives to make your game use more of the wiiU's unique features."

Really? Can you post a link to where you saw this?

MikeMyers4105d ago

They don't force them but as a publisher you would probably want to. People are going to buy a Wii U for the exclusives and the difference gameplay mechanics surrounding the Gamepad. They are not going to buy one to have experiences similar to last gen. hardware and new systems on the horizon that will likely push beyond what the Wii U can do technically.

However they should not force those gameplay features. That is what suffered on the Wii, not every game needed motion controls tacked on.

Thatguy-3104105d ago

Think that's the case. Or maybe developers know their games won't sell a lot on Nintendo consoles compared to sonys and Microsofts and that's why they won't bother putting resources for another port.

CaptainN4105d ago

Nintendo does not require anyone to use the Gamepad.

PopRocks3594105d ago

I think it isn't fair for the Wii U to be skipped because developers don't think they can make use of the touch screen. That's what Off-TV play is for. Core Wii U owners will gravitate toward that content with or without the specialized functionality. Cap com is releasing an updated version of Monster Hunter 3 and that won't even have Off-TV play. Why can't other debs try this? Especially if porting the game is relatively cheap?

MEsoJD4105d ago

I don't think the touch screen is the main reason developers are skipping. It's more of lack of faith in the audience that have Wii-U's. Third party sold like crap on the Wii and I'm sure their hesitant to invest. Hopefully support will get better.

OmegaSlayer4105d ago

That's it but Nintendo fanboys won't ever accept it.
WiiU had the chance to lunch with 2 of the biggest franchises of this gen: Call Of Duty Black Ops 2 and Assassin's Creed 3 and they totally bombed.
The sales are low and the attachment rate is bad.
WiiU has 2,6 millions consoles around and it sold 1500000 BlOps2 and 110000 AC3 that means 5.7% attachment rate for BlOps2 and 4.2% for AC3 compared to PS3 72,3 millions consoles, 11,82 mil BlOps2, 4,54 mil AC3 => BlOps att.rate 16.3% , AC3 att.rate 6.2%
This is what devs see, not the touch pad.

G-cis4105d ago

considering those games also avaiable on PS360 and launching AFTER the ps360 launch,im not surprised that it bombed

PirateThom4105d ago

G-Cis

Black Ops II launched 5 days later in NA on Wii U. Surely anyone with a Wii U pre-order would have waited.

Even with that, the release of both those games was less than a month after the other versions, anyone with a pre-order would, likely, pre-order games.

It's exactly the same problem the Vita has. Why would developers make specific Wii U versions when no one is buying them?

PopRocks3594104d ago

I made my original comment because both Crystal Dynamics and Gearbox shared the same sentiment about the gamepad.

@OmegaSlayer

That's a pretty mature remark about fanboys. /s

Keep in mind, it's cheaper to port to the Wii U according to Ubisoft. With that in mind, you would not need to sell as many copies to make a profit. If Black Ops 2 sold 150000 as you stated, multiply the numbers and it should come out to more than the development costs (also according to Ubisoft being less than a million).

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metroid324105d ago (Edited 4105d ago )

Can i say only 2 developers have said they wont do a port due to wanting to impliment panaramic viewpoint and touch ect which is fair enough all it means is you'll end up with quality over quantity,and the devs who's making the next Metro said horrible cpu,guess what Xenoblade2 WiiU says hello its proper Nextgen in every aspect and there was zero cpu problems ie theres alot more power at hand,Xenoblade isnt pushing WiiU to the max but its prob KING of graphics at present on consoles,DICE/4A games you havn't been told you've been shown.

Ezz20134105d ago (Edited 4105d ago )

nothing was showing on wiiu
is next gen nor even close to gfx king on consoles

the reason why the wiiu is not on fire with sales
because it didn't show any thing that scream next gen games or gfx that even beat the top 3rd party titles on consoles let alone 1st part studios from sony/MS
and the lack of 3rd party support on wiiu is not helping too

Benjaminkno4105d ago

Do we really need an article about it?
Redundancy to its finest.

legendoflex4105d ago

Haven't you been reading the reports of developers skipping Wii U because they can't think of a way to use the GamePad? Clearly they don't get the message.

Benjaminkno4104d ago

I think that's hogwash.
There are numerous control schemes.
They're either just coming up with excuses or just lack vision and should skip WiiU anyway.

zerocrossing4105d ago

Just use the touch screen for inventory, checking your map or puzzle mini games.

I didn't know devs were being forced to use it, if they really don't know what to do just implement off TV play.

CouldHaveYelledUiiW4104d ago

Exactly-

I guess they are worried about losing money by not using the WiiU touch screen but they may also be losing money by not using the WiiU at all.

WiiU has 3 other control schemes for them to execute-

if their company can't afford the R&D to think of something EPIC just make a normal game without the "New-Shiny".
Core and Real Gamers won't care. (Some of them may even thank you).

Drainage4105d ago

I like how zombiu used the side of the screens as extra buttons.

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Tomb Raider devs offer a peek at their new ‘unified’ Lara Croft

Polygon: "Tomb Raider developer Crystal Dynamics launched a new website for the franchise on Wednesday — Valentine’s Day is also Lara Croft’s birthday — with another peek at the impending “unified” design for its action heroine. New artwork of Lara sporting a post-Survivor trilogy look that evokes her classic design supports the theory that the Lara we saw last fall in Call of Duty is basically the character’s future appearance."

Christopher70d ago

Ah, back to jungle romping in a camisole and short shorts.

CobraKai69d ago

Love it. This look is iconic. Her reboot look was so generic.

VenomUK69d ago

What you talking about? This is the reboot Lara but in the original costume.

CobraKai69d ago

Yeah. And? The original costume is the important part buddy.

Vengeance113870d ago

Crystal Dynamics really going hard with the man face. They sure do hate feminine looks!

Vengeance113870d ago (Edited 70d ago )

If you honest to God think that face is feminine, says alot about you pal. Go outside and see what actual women look like. Go google Unified Lara Croft Man Face and you'll see you're in the minority thinking this looks good. This is highly masculine.

Christopher70d ago (Edited 70d ago )

***Go outside and see what actual women look like.***

Do you honestly believe I'm some freak hidden away from the world and don't have a mother, never dated, my wife isn't a woman, my daughter isn't a woman, and I work exclusively with men, some who choose to wear dresses sometimes?

***you're in the minority thinking this looks good. This is highly masculine. ***

Right. I'm in the minority. It must be me. Not online people making statements like yours.

isarai70d ago

Take your own advice Vengeance, good lord 🤦

Vengeance113870d ago

"men, some who choose to wear dresses sometimes? "

lmao, do you work at the circus? Definitely somewhere where clowns are present.

frostypants69d ago

@Vengeance maybe take your own advice and stop staring at anime all day. This doesn't look masculine at all.

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MrDead70d ago

A quick Google as to why this comment was made... Oh a twitch streamer Melonie Mac went right wing so all the brain broken little kids are following her crazy man face rants.

tracedinblood69d ago

I used to follow her, but she started getting real weird when she consumed more and more meat and talked about it on a constant basis. Her eyes bulge out of her head now and she makes the most unhinged arguments while claiming to be holy.

Meat is fine, but don't forget your veggies.

banger8870d ago

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this looks like a dude in drag.

Vengeance113870d ago

Right! Glad to see atleast 1 sane person in here.

FunAndGun69d ago

Don't be ashamed you're attracted to her.

Barlos69d ago

Yeah, it kind of does tbh

Mr_cheese70d ago

Women come in all shapes and sizes pal, femine doesn't mean being put on a pedestal in looks.

Grow up lad.

SimpleSlave69d ago

You really going hard with the man face. You sure do hate feminine looks! Cuz if you honest to god think that face is masculine, says a lot about you pal.

Go outside and see what actual women look like...

Fixed it for you, bud.

On a serious note, you do need some help. Unplug, actually go outside, and soak up the sun. You'll be surprised of how much of a none entity you have turned into. Neither a man nor a woman, but a 4chan slime.

Seriously, seek help.

H969d ago

Don't worry everyone agrees with you but they don't dare say it

thesoftware73069d ago

I think she has many masculine features, but wouldn't it make sense for what she does in game?

This is not PS1, it's a detailed model of a very built woman, who has a tough as nail edge...so yes, she has masculine features and she looks cool to me, I think the 3 Remakes were excellent, and can't wait for the next one.

Why are people looking for attraction in video game characters anyway?

H969d ago

@thesoftware730 honestly I can say the same thing to you guys?, Why do you look for realism in fiction, I can't understand that at all, people like seeing something that looks good, we all like Ryu looking like Arnold times 2 because it's cool, not because it's realistic or anything, same thing for women

RaiderNation69d ago

@Christopher he only knows what women look like from OnlyFans and Pornhub.

DrDoomer69d ago

She does kinda look like the very rational Finnish alcoholic IT cross-dresser.

isarai69d ago

Sounds like you know that category quite well.

xHeavYx69d ago

@Vengance I wonder what you look like. It would be so ironic if you were this chubby guy with an overly round face.

ZeekQuattro69d ago

I'm getting strong neckbeard vibes from him just looking at those comments. If you think average or plain Jane women look like men something is mentally wrong with you.

outsider162469d ago (Edited 69d ago )

"Go google Unified Lara Croft Man Face"

Lmao!!! Who..i mean seriously who..in their right mind would actually go the trouble to even type "Man" after Lara Croft. Jeeze..some you people need help really.

YourMommySpoils69d ago

I slightly see what you mean, but it's just concept art, so that will probably be improved.

isarai69d ago

Why would she wear an obscene amount of makeup to go out and plunder ruins? This proves even more you guys need to go touch grass and see the real world instead of E-girls

SyntheticForm69d ago

@isarai

I like your selective realism.

You could also ask why a woman would go and plunder tombs and ruins alone if you're going to go that route.

"This proves even more"

You have no better argument than I do; it's preference vs preference. I've been married for 16 years and my wife agrees - thinks Lara's face is cold and masculine.

thorstein69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Why would she put botox in her lips that make her look like a circus clown? That look is hideous.

Women don't look like that except in AI. No wonder you're single.

SyntheticForm69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

@thorstein

Lol. Slow down and take a breather, then keep reading.

SyntheticForm69d ago

Lara always looked feminine. She looks decidedly masculine here.

https://x.com/MediaRaider19...

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smashman9869d ago (Edited 69d ago )

With all due respect (which is none at all) vengeance ur so off on this lol.

thesoftware73069d ago (Edited 69d ago )

@Vengeance

My man, she raids tombs, she scales building, mountainsides, trees, and anything else she can, she shoots guns,, fight hordes of men/women, animals, and dinosaurs, walks, runs, swims, and, swings on vines/ropes.. What do you want her to look like? Barbie?

So, I agree with you about her masculinity, but have no problem with it, for all the reasons above. Additionally, if you played the remakes(I highly enjoyed all 3)..you would see her actual physical appearance change from game to game, gaining muscle and more masculine features, the dev even had an interview talking about her change..this Laura that you see in this new artwork was always the end game.

Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, and then Shadow, all the same Laura as she gets more experienced, to finally become the iconic version, with the 2 guns and short shorts.

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-Foxtrot70d ago

Great artwork but please…this unified timeline shit sounds awful

It won’t work

Classic Lara and Survivor Lara have completely different origin stories meaning they are two separate timelines you can’t unify together

I really don’t want Survivor Lara anywhere near Classic Lara.

thesoftware73069d ago

Survivor Laura in the remakes was a better character imo lol.

But, they can infact retcon, and unify everything. Take note of the remakes, they were always leaning into Laura becoming the, 2 guns, short shorts wearing version, just a more fleshed out, better written and more believable version of the old one.

-Foxtrot68d ago

How? She just whined and whined

Then you think after her progress near the end of the first reboot game the sequel would continue that but she goes back to her old self

The same then happens in the third game but now she’s arrogant and a bit of an arsehole at times especially to Jonah.

First game - Become the Tomb Raider

Second game - Become the Tomb Raider

Third game - Become the Tomb Raider

They are completely different timelines they can’t be merged, even the origin stories are totally different

It’s just a bad idea

Make a new universe or continue the original one

isarai70d ago

As long as she had dual guns, and doesn't whine all the damn time. They really dropped the ball with the new lara, had such a good start and didn't know what to do with it.

Christopher70d ago

She wines a lot less in the 2nd and 3rd game (she's pretty solid on her goals in the 3rd), but, yeah, lots of whining in that first one. It's not that she whined, it's when she whined at times. At some point, you have to recognize you're not in Kansas anymore, but she still had some moments pretty late in the 1st game.

thesoftware73069d ago

She was new to Tomb Raiding in the first remake...she progressively became more confident, muscular and experienced in each game.

So the "whining" sort of made sense...even though I would call it inexperienced.

OtterX70d ago

Yea, I actually really loved the moment in 2013 Tomb Raider where Lara truly transforms into the badass, blows the fort doors down shouting "That's right, run you bastards! I'm coming for you all!"
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

I thought hey, there we go! She's become the Tomb Raider!

......bbbuuuuut then she reverts back to the whiney-ness immediately at the start of Rise of the Tomb Raider all over again. I never made it far enough for her to return to that confident Lara again, but the character evolution was just terrible IMO. Inconsistent.

Lexreborn269d ago

Whining wasn’t my issue with Laura in new games. The issue I had was the extreme homicidal aspects of her, she went from “surviving” treacherous scenarios in the 1st one to just straight up going to action murdering trinity.

Even to the point of flooding an entire town to “stop” trinity. She murdered a crap ton of innocent people.

And she also wouldn’t listen to reason from anybody else for the sake of her goals. I could never fully attach to her and it’s why the 3rd game is still unfinished for me.

I also remember when they were supposedly designing gameplay that gave you options for stealth but 0 scenarios in the game truly allowed you to progress without killing a wave of enemies. So that was just flat false advertising for me.

outsider162469d ago

Yeah she whines alot. You'd think by a third game..her whining would lessen but nope. Only reason i put it up with that..is because its a reboot and you know..before her roots.

No excuse now...

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BrainSyphoned69d ago

The Call of Duty version?! Surely there is a Fortnite version they can use instead to really nail the feel.

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Months after declaring Tomb Raider unaffected by layoffs, Tomb Raider dev hit with wave of layoffs

Gamesradar writes: "Embracer Group's bloodbath continues as Tomb Raider dev Crystal Dynamics reports layoffs

Tomb Raider developer Crystal Dynamics has suffered a wave of layoffs just months after insisting that the ongoing staff hemorrhage at parent company Embracer Group wouldn't affect the new Tomb Raider game or the studio's collaboration with The Initiative on the Perfect Dark reboot."

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-Foxtrot218d ago

It's sad that I'm more excited for the remaster trilogy than the new game.

Snookies12218d ago

Nothing sad about that, the original three were amazing games! Can't wait to explore the Croft manor again and find all the secrets... It's been ages, so I barely remember the games these days.

Rebel_Scum217d ago

lol secrets. You know the first thing you’re gonna do is lure the butler to the freezer and shut the door on him haha.

Mr_cheese217d ago

I can remember the secrets so clearly! Haven't played them since I was a kid but tha mansion just stays in my head

CobraKai217d ago

Im only disagreeing because it’s not sad. Im excited as all hell for these. I can’t even remember if i played 3, but 1 and 2 are still ingrained in my mind. I love remasters and im actually excited to play these in a clean looking “ps1” mode…. i guess that would be a “pc” mode.

-Foxtrot217d ago (Edited 217d ago )

I’m not sad as in “I don’t want the remasters” I’ve wanted them for years. I’m super excited.

I’m sad with how they’ve handled TR over the years, I should be super excited for their next modern release but they have nothing but the remaster trilogy.

And I’ll say it…I didn’t care all that much for the reboot trilogy, it just didn’t feel like Tomb Raider at all. Like a new IP with Tomb Raider slapped on where you “become the Tomb Raider” for 3 games

CobraKai217d ago

Yeah. I agree. I think i got burned out on “realistic” Lara, thats trying so hard to catch up to Nathan Drake, that i miss the old adventures of Lara. The Lara that would be in a bath robe with a shotgun.

crazyCoconuts218d ago

"Crystal Dynamics made the difficult decision to part ways with 9 Brand/Marketing and 1 IT employee today due to an internal restructuring..."
Small layoff, hardly news worthy.

Tacoboto217d ago (Edited 217d ago )

With Aspyr handling the rereleases, what exactly would these CD marketing people be doing with no game release scheduled for any time soon? More yoga sessions on Twitch?

Sciurus_vulgaris217d ago

Marketing is being cut simply because Amazon will market the next Tomb Raider title, while Microsoft will market Perfect Dark. Crystal Dynamics will probably be fine due to development contracts with Amazon and a Microsoft. Unfortunately, I can’t say that rest of Embracer Group has any long-term stability.

Knightofelemia218d ago

Embracer has left one hell of a mess and Tencent will be swimming around picking at the scraps.

RaidenBlack217d ago

ffs, Embracer is already looking to sell Gearbox ... Volition studio was shutdown
now, CD got affected and even affect Eidos aswell?
Better sell Gearbox to Sony
And CD & Eidos to MS
than shrink these studios to bare minimum

Starman69217d ago

Sony should buy crystal dynamics 😎🤟

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Why Fans Hope Lara Croft's New Look in Call of Duty Carries on to the Next Tomb Raider

Activision has unveiled a new-look Lara Croft who’s set to hit Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and Warzone as part of Season 5 Reloaded, and the design has certainly set tongues wagging within the Tomb Raider community.

Terry_B240d ago

Because unlike in the reboot games..she is sexy there again.

TricksterArrow240d ago

Not sure, can’t see her body at all and I can see she is wearing a sports bra that the average incel would cry “censorship”. I she simply resonates more with the image most people have of Lara.

BlackTar187240d ago

people who use the word incel are so funny.

TricksterArrow240d ago

Hehe, well, incels are a joke

z2g240d ago (Edited 240d ago )

Yeah cuz it’s cool to objectify women these days… wait. No it’s not. .

SyntheticForm240d ago

It's only cool when women can monetize objectifying themselves, right?

Stanjara240d ago

Speaking like a real incel.
Been to Porhub today yet buddy?

TwistedXenos240d ago

@Stanjara What's wrong with Pornhub, are you living in the 90s?

Christopher239d ago

***It's only cool when women can monetize objectifying themselves, right? ***

Yes, this exactly. Kind of the same way it's not rape when they give consent. The fact you don't get this bothers me.

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Pyrofire95240d ago

She looks like an ass. Like shes a mean person.

Stanjara240d ago

This is the Lara that we love.

CrashMania240d ago

Really good model, make it happen whoever owns the TR rights these days.

ROCKY28239d ago

Embracer "layoff" Group - due to buying all the companies and making zero money so they will re-GROUP and layoff... piss poor EU money bags that failed with their investments and now will hurt amazing talent within those companies

RaidenBlack239d ago

I kinda like the Lara's model in Rise of the Tomb Raider

-Foxtrot240d ago (Edited 240d ago )

Hopefully we get this Lara next

The sad thing is…to see Lara again and she’s being exploited for Call of Duty of all things

crazyCoconuts240d ago (Edited 240d ago )

Between this and Homelander super heroes and such it's looking less like COD, more like Fortnite with constant sell out sponsorships. These are essentially goofy ads woven into a FPS with a presumably serious tone. Not a fan

-Foxtrot240d ago (Edited 240d ago )

Yeah I noticed that

It's even bad for Fortnite because that's all it's really known for now, the big crossovers

I mean there's Niki Minaj , 21 Savage and Snoop Dogg which were added as in game characters to celebrate 50 years of hip hop. Now did Call of Duty really need to celebrate 50 years of hip hop?

fsfsxii240d ago

Still has the best FPS gameplay of any game on the market, i don't like it as much as you, but it has to be said.

Snookies12239d ago

@fsfsxii - Hmmm, VERY debatable. Not saying you're completely wrong. But Counter Strike and Rainbow Six Siege are a thing.

gold_drake240d ago

lets not forget Nicki Minaj.
the character everyone has been waiting for to play as /s

ROCKY28239d ago

exactly - no longer a USA company - now a sack of shyte Embracer 🤣

Vengeance1138240d ago

Even this version is really downplaying her hotness with that "safety" modesty tank top underneath her teal shirt to hide any potential cleavage. Also drastically reduced her chest size.

Angelina Jolie Lara Croft is what to aim for, that is as on brand as you can be.

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