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Satoru Iwata: Customers Understanding The Wii U "Will Take a Little Time"

Nintendolife: ''With a New Year and Nintendo's upcoming announcement of its Q3 financial results, Satoru Iwata and his team have plenty to think about. 2013 will be an important year to continue momentum on 3DS with big releases, and more importantly to grow the Wii U audience as much as possible.''

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PopRocks3594550d ago

I'm thinking the Wii needs to fade into history for all of the confusion to completely dissipate. Maybe I'm naive, but it might be a smart move on Nintendo's part to cut down on manufacturing the Wii console.

exfatal4550d ago

I've heard they stop producing games for the wii so im sure the other companies will follow suit soon, so at least Nintendo has their full attention on the wii u.

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Pixel_Enemy4550d ago

Tell me more marshabilly5!

deafdani4550d ago

Why would they? The Wii is still selling pretty well, and every Wii sold turns a ridiculous profit for Nintendo. That's the same reason why they haven't discontinued the DS, despite the 3DS having been in the market for a year and half or so.

PopRocks3594550d ago

Correction: They actually have discontinued the DS and DS Lite models. Only the DSi and DSi XL are being manufactured right now while the 3DS and 3DS XL are also manufactured.

I'm not saying to cut off the Wii entirely, I'm suggesting Nintendo may want to ease up on Wii manufacturing so as to move the Wii lineup over and make more room for the Wii U. That way they still make some money off of the Wii while the Wii U becomes more noticed as a unique system.

Pixel_Enemy4550d ago

It's also called "install base" Why make a game for a console that just launched and has a TINY fraction of the install base as the previous console that is still selling?

deafdani4550d ago

Ok, sorry, I meant the DSi. My bad. Point is still the same.

And no, what Nintendo is doing right now is what makes the most business sense. If they do what you suggested, then they would be shortening the Wii's lifespan for no reason at all. Better try and sell as many of them as they can, while the Wii U's install base grows bigger over time. It's better to let the Wii disappear from the market naturally (out of consumer disinterest), than to cut it dramatically, or even try and sell less units like you suggested.

Same goes for the DSi.

PopRocks3594550d ago (Edited 4550d ago )

Hasn't the Wii's lifespan already been shortened to the point of near death anyway? The last big Wii release from Nintendo was a Kirby collection and as far as I know the Wii has no more releases coming this year.

I already suggested not to cut the Wii dramatically. In fact my suggestion is just as much in line with what you're saying and to make it a gradual thing.

"I'm not saying to cut off the Wii entirely, I'm suggesting Nintendo may want to ease up on Wii manufacturing..."

EDIT: But the basic point here is that the Wii U is the new console and a part of the general public don't recognize it as a new console. Why not slow down on Wii production in favor of the Wii U when there are plenty of Wiis in stock in many stores?

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dedicatedtogamers4549d ago

Iwata is being very condescending as an excuse for the WiiU's mediocre performance. Nintendo as a whole has been very condescending over the last few years. When the Wii and DS launched, Nintendo never said stuff like this. They simply asked us to TRY it. They put the systems in our hands. Now, with the 3DS and WiiU, Nintendo is lashing out against consumers and saying "oh, you're not buying it because you don't understand it".

No, Nintendo. No. You are wrong. I understand the 3DS. I understand the WiiU. I simply DON'T WANT IT.

Perhaps if Nintendo spent more time trying to understand their fans, instead of trying to force us to understand THEM, their sales would be better.

MasterCratosKong664549d ago

if it was normal circumstances i would understand, but the wii u is literally HARD TO UNDERSTAND. they never did this with the wii because everyone could pick up and play the wii very easily. the upgrade from older consoles to new consoles is usually a no brainer but i have a tough time explaining this to other people. i haven't met anyone so far who was able to really get the picture without spending an hour playing the thing first and then deciding whether they like it or not. that being said nintendo should be doing everything they can to help that process with marketing

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doctorstrange4550d ago

"It's like a giant DS for your TV"

exfatal4550d ago

"Its like a giant HD ds for your tv"
fixed for ya.. and whats wrong with that? i'd always wanted to play my ds and now 3ds games on the tv somehow, and now they have the next best thing lol

doctorstrange4550d ago

Never said anything's wrong with it, I like my U. Just don't see why it's such a hard thing to convey.

Clarence4550d ago (Edited 4550d ago )

I don't see it getting better for the Wii u anytime soon. The PS3 and 360 are outselling it. Just think how tough it will be when Sony and M$ release their new console?

EddieNX 4550d ago

Mmmm you must be stupid right ?

Well let me explain. The 360 and ps3 are now really really cheap and have tons of games ready even the wii is still selling well for the same reasons...

When the 720 and ps4 launch they're not even gunna sell faster than wiiu , after all Wiiu is outselling the launch of the ps3 and 360. They will be in the same boat as wiiu - Expensive , Not that many MUST HAVE games , And people will think ''why should I upgrade from the 360 I bought last year when the 720 is just a 1080p 30FPS version of my 360.

When PS4 and 720 Launch all you're gunna get graphically is 1080p 30-60FPS Xbox 360 graphics with more AA and some tacked on DX 11 features. The common gamer won't vare for the difference.

After a year of being on the market those consoles will start to display WOW graphics and games and they will start selling really fast as the ps3 and 360 and wii finally stop selling all together...

jmc88884549d ago (Edited 4549d ago )

Exactly. Which means compared to a Wii U, it will be modestly better graphically.

So when a person is looking to pick up a console, they'll see most likely $249-299 or so for Wii U or $399-549 for PS4/720. Anyone that doesn't see that as a potential problem during the greatest depression mankind has ever known should go balls to the wall buying subprime mortgage derivatives.

As time goes on all three consoles will scale up as the new features of the GPGPU are utilized and programmers put more time, focus into the console as well as become more experienced with it.

The other thing they forget is that the new consoles won't see as many titles the first couple of years as the 360/PS3 do. They'll suffer from the same 'new console' problems that the Wii U and all other consoles of recent eras before have suffered from.

Basically when a new console comes out, it costs more money to produce games on that console, yet there is a far smaller audience that can even purchase the game. That's why you see some devs every generation that stick with the previous generation for a couple of years. They wait until the consoles have sold enough units to justify making a game on it.

It's why you saw some PS2/xbox games coming out on those systems and not on PS3/360. No one said it meant doom or bad things for the 360/PS3. But for the Wii U, suddenly it's a 'brand new problem' that 'only the Wii U' will suffer from.

It's hilarious. If it wasn't sad that is. How many times does the same stuff need to happen, over and over again before people remember it?

The facts are the PS4/720/Wii U initially will have good support, but many devs will choose to wait until enough units are sold so they don't go bankrupt making a game that can't possibly make it's money back. See Crysis 3 on the Wii U.

Crytek lost alot of money for EA with Crysis 2. It sold well, but the costs were astronomical. Crytek makes very technically advanced games, but EA is their master, and masters have no problem closing down devs like Crytek if their games don't make money. It wasn't about Wii U not being able to run it, it was that they didn't want to lose money making a special port version for a console that only has a couple million units worldwide sold by then roughly.

I highly suspect that the 360 and PS3 will continue to be big sellers when the PS4/720 comes out. Because it plays good games for cheap. As time goes on the Wii U will be competitively priced against those while basically being almost as good as a PS4/720 for probably about half the price.

WiigotU4550d ago

Clarence the cheaper systems are selling with more games out now and ore new games coming soon. The more epensive system with no games out is def going to out sell them.

My niece just got a 360 kinect bundle that she didn't pay for that I used my store discount to absorb the cost. I bet you a thousand that she and thousands of other kids and adults will not be getting a more expensive system.

While everyone is dogging the wiiu where will you be when your new systems don't hit high numbers and sales look bad?

megamanX24550d ago

"I don't see it getting better for the Wii u anytime soon. The PS3 and 360 are outselling it."

are u a moron? how many years have those other systems been out for now?

thaimasker4549d ago

You do understand that the PS2 outsold the PS3 And 360 in its first year to right? You have no Idea how the market works.

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JohnnyAkiba4550d ago

In "little time" real next gen consoles will be released. xD

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils2d ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent751d 8h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils1d ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai3d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning773d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher2d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor2d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde2d ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z1d 16h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey861d 11h ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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The 'Stop Killing Games' initiative is close to its final deadline

Ross Scott—also known as Accursed Farms on YouTube—has been fighting tooth and nail for almost a full year to help spearhead game preservation. Starting after it was announced that Ubisoft's The Crew would be shutting down, permanently ending support for the game, Scott launched the "Stop Killing Games" initiative.

That makes a twofold deadline for the Stop Killing Games initiative. Or, at least, one headed up by Scott: The UK petition, which ends July 14, and the EU Citizens' Initiative, which ends July 3.

M3talDiamond6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

If you live in the EU then Please sign this or our game ownership rights and game preservation is
at stake. I know there isnt much time left but please consider signing the petition

-Foxtrot5d ago

I never knew Ross Scott was doing this

I love Freemans Mind

Inverno4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

People whine and in the end don't do a thing. Then whine more when they get screwed some more smh. If this makes it then it'll be monumental for consumers. That Pirate software guy was no help either smh.

GazCBG4d ago

The EU Date is the 31st July not the 3rd

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Xbox June Update: Copilot for Gaming Available on Mobile, Aggregated Gaming Library, and More

There are many exciting updates this month for Xbox. Copilot for Gaming is available now for early preview on mobile and will be coming to PC soon. Xbox PC app introduces a wave of new updates: Aggregated gaming library gives players quick access to games from Xbox, Game Pass, and other leading PC storefronts, and with publisher channels players can browse their favorite franchises. Updates for the Xbox Console includes customization for Most Recently Used, free-to-play benefits, Game Hubs, and dialog improvements for game saves.

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darthv727d ago

"Players can now hide system apps, pin favorites to the list, and reduce the number of tiles displayed. This update is part of our ongoing effort to make Home more personal, flexible, and responsive to feedback."

This is welcomed, i like a less cluttered home screen.

Profchaos7d ago

Not everything needs co pilot ms

1Victor6d ago

Gotta be a slow news day when a 18 hours and 3 comments (now 4)makes it to the front page🤷🏿
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Well anything that adds and help gamers is a good thing even if some don’t need it there’ll be more that will use it.

darthv726d ago

Well its MS news... those are usually pretty dry, unless it has something to do with another game being ported to PS. then its top of the pops.

Obscure_Observer6d ago

"Well its MS news... those are usually pretty dry, unless it has something to do with another game being ported to PS. then its top of the pops."

Oh look no further than the "Upcoming layoffs at MS" topic. It will easily top the Hottest of the week.

Special guests like Mr. Dead might also show up. You just watch.