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Why Sony shouldn't release the PS4 in 2013

Rumors are floating around that the next Xbox and PlayStation might release in 2013. Many say Sony needs to release their console along with Microsoft to avoid falling behind. Here's why Sony might be better off pushing their launch into 2014.

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KangarooSam4152d ago

Because they need to focus on bringing up the Vita.

And I also just got my PS3 and would like to see it have some more support, that may be biased, though :P

Ezz20134151d ago

ps3 will get support for a long time after the ps4 don't worry .. this is sony after all

darthv724151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

if you just got your ps3 then you should look at the big back catalog of titles as a sign of support.

i understand people wanting to look forward but if you just recently got into these systems, go back and get some of the best they have to offer and start there.

you wont be disappointed.

LOGICWINS4151d ago

The PS3 will be supported for AT LEAST another 5 years.

Belking4151d ago

Yep, but it's because they have too. They can't afford not to.

Ezz20134151d ago

@belking
no they don't ...but they will since that what they always do
ps4 will be out and ps3 will still get support for a long time

i wanna ask you
will you be happy if MS dropped xbox360 for the nextxbox ?!

MikeMyers4151d ago

Nobody knows how much support the PS3 will get post PS4. You cannot rely on past practices because we are in different times now. For one thing the PS2 dominated the charts for years and was the highest selling console of all time. This generation we had 3 strong players.

As far as Sony having reasons not to come out with the PS4 next year I can think of a few.

1. Put more focus on Vita
2. Still lots of room for the PS3's price to come down
3. We are still seeing great games on it
4. Sony needs to generate revenue with the existing hardware. New hardware might be sold at a loss once again.

Outside_ofthe_Box4151d ago

***"Yep, but it's because they have too. They can't afford not to."***

I sense a stealth jab here.

What do you mean that "they can't afford not to?" If it's profitable, why would you drop support for it even you could afford to drop it?

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Maddens Raiders4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

Simple. Because the PS3 is fantastic atm and has a lot on offer going into the short and midterm.

To the guy below using the logic, that SNE needs to release it [PS4] in concert w/ MS's machine, so they won't be "behind in sales" is like Ferrari saying, "we're going to release a new Italia in 2013 in order to keep pace with Cadillac CTS sales."

This will never happen for many reasons. This is not the mindset of a quality manufacturer who sets out to build the best for their customers to enjoy for many years. You just do it.

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xflo3604151d ago

Truth is theyHAVE to release ps4 in 2013 or they will get left behind again. xbox720 is coming next year so sony have no choice also they cant give nintendo too big a start or nintendo will win before its even started!

UnholyLight4151d ago

So because you only just got a current gen console us guys who've had one for 6 years should wait longer? Ooookay then lol

KangarooSam4151d ago

Jesus Christ! I said "I may be biased" it was a god damn joke.

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jar1554152d ago

I agree fully. The Vita needs to get on track in 2013 or it's going to die off. Sony needs to rally the Vita or else they'll be launching one system as another dies a very early death.

5eriously4151d ago

I cannot fathom the Vita comment at all. I see the Vita as an extension to the PSx and not as an replacement. Sure the Vita is a console on its own but I for one will buy it to extend my PS3 not to replace it. I just hope that Sony lives up to the promise that the portable devices like Vita, Xperia and other devices will still integrate with the fixed consoles when the PS4 and beyond are released.

R6ex4151d ago

Vita is last-gen.

Smartphones are outperforming the Vita.

Sony should learn from Samsung, and release new and more powerful hardware every year. That's why Samsung is beating Apple at its own game.

Riderz13374151d ago

They don't have a choice...They can NOT let Microsoft release the Xbox first again. Look at year on year sales, the PS3 has sold more than Xbox but because Xbox released a year before it's still ahead.

LOGICWINS4151d ago

Who cares if the 360s ahead? As long as Sony sells enough hardware to keep delivering on enjoyable exclusive games, it doesn't make a difference.

Riderz13374151d ago

Shareholders see that Sony is in last place. Doesn't look good.

LOGICWINS4151d ago

Shareholders care about profit. When Sony eventually makes that profit, they will receive shareholder approval. Sony doesn't NEED to "beat" Microsoft, they just need to do well.

Ducky4151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

Assuming that both MS and Sony are competing for the same market, if one gets an early start then that is significant.

While there are some that can afford and will buy both systems, the reality is that in a lot of cases consumers will pick one. A sale earned by MS is a sale lost by Sony and vice versa.
The platform that releases early often ends up being purchased by those looking for a new system, which means they're less likely to buy the other new system that gets released a year later.

Neither MS and Sony NEED to beat the other in releasing first, but the one that jumps out of the gate first will likely have more initial success... while the other will likely endure half-hearted ports until it picks up speed and builds a comparable playerbase of its own.
So releasing first is something desirable.

xflo3604151d ago

actually it does matter, look at sonys losses for last year!
Its time for sony to wage war!!

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dabri54151d ago

The year start is not the only reason. Yes it helped, but because of hardware shortages, the first year is never a huge boom in sales for any company. Sonys high price gave them even lower sales the first year - two years of the console being out. That combined with the year head start gave MS the huge lead.

Ezz20134151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

ps3 is not in 3rd place any more
ps3-hits-70m-to-go-neck-and-n eck-with-xbox-360
http://www.computerandvideo...
both are tie in 2nd place

i think ps3 by now already passed the xbox360 numbers

Belking4151d ago

Hate to break it to ya but xbox is almost at 73 million. They just sold over 1 million last month alone.

animegamingnerd4151d ago

i think sony's top priority is to get the vita on track or else it will be a failure they are already losing a lot of money from their other divisions so releasing a PS4 that is a huge leap and cost at least over 500 dollars spells trouble

Pillsbury14151d ago

Sony does not have to, those that will get a ps4 will get one regardless of when 720 is released. I can see that people are impatient to wait for next gen, I too want to see where Sony will take our gaming to the future.

Hicken4151d ago

I don't think they HAVE to, but I don't see any reason why they WOULDN'T. People seem to be under the impression that they can't support their current systems and pour resources into the PS4 at the same time.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7222h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18816h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio6h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga8h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21837h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga6h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus231h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10111h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-30m ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead52m ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 7h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken18h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 3h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 3h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 3h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola23h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 2h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 2h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 18h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 16h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 13h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 6h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 8h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 4h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 16h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 2h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 1h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 17h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 14h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 16h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 16h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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