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Xbox 720: XBW uses penultimate issue to 'tell you everything we know'

8-page "everything we know" feature will suggest specs, appearance and AR features.

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SITH4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

The artist representation, looks like a curvy ps2 when it is standing up. Next gen consoles better have SSD. Otherwise get ready for long load times.

OneAboveAll4191d ago

HA! SSD he says. Do you want your consoles to be $600? Because SSD is expensive.

bozebo4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

Well, MS started this gen with 20GB drives. There are some small capacity SSDs which are quite cheap, MS could get a good deal on the related tech and bundle them with 360s then charge crazy amounts for a sensible (as in like 100GB) SSD for a "premium" package. That is how spending more to have SSDs would actually make MS money, people won't feel as big a need to upgrade a HDD if it had one instead of a SSD because it should have plenty of capacity right at the start of the generation.

Load times will be vastly quicker even without the next gen having SSDs anyway.

There is going to be a very fine line in their pricing though. They will have to sell at a bigger loss than previous generations unless it isn't top of the range hardware (I suspect neither the PS4 nor 720 will be pushing any boundaries, but the difference between the two consoles could be large)

badvlad4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

ssd is not expensive look at samsung ssd 840. But i dont care about the harddrive its the ram memory that needs to be big. 8 is not enough i think

Mikefizzled4191d ago

Why would they sell gamers a storage with a considerably shorter life span and considerably more expensive? Or are you just trying to look smart talking about SSD's?

MikeMyers4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

Don't expect SSD in the new system. It's all about getting the most value at the lowest cost this coming generation and SSD drives still start at about $80. I do expect Microsoft to go back to providing a hard drive with every system, but it's highly unlikely to be a SSD. A faster disc drive will also help load times. They will probably do something like Nintendo is doing and that is offer different models at launch. Cloud services will also come into play.

I think that model shown looks rather cool. They should call it Xbox Durango.

bintarok4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

Hmm..so this confirms the new Xbox coming out next year. The magnesium case looks kinda cool.

Hopefully the Orbis is coming out afterward, if not prior.

edit: the shape reminds me to AppleTV and the chrome frame makes it look like an obese iP4. The minimalist approach does the sexy look.

Autodidactdystopia4191d ago

ssds have becomewaymore reliable and cheap.

so those arguments dont really hold water.

it would be a great feature.

an ssd would improve everything from boot-time load-times browsing librarys install times literally everything depends on the hdd.
and an ssd is the answer to all that.

who knows if they would use them but it would cut load times in 1/4 for levels 4 times the size in data.

my argument here is that is IS a good idea, question is will they use it or not.

AAACE54191d ago

If online gameplay isnt free on this one ill pass.

Conzul4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

Both Sony and M$ should go with SSHDs. Nearly as fast as SSDs, same storage capacity as HDDs, and quite cheap.

For example, the Seagate Momentus XT($90 newegg). I have one in my PS3. It has sped everything up by ~25%-35%, just imagine if Sony or M$ specialized their systems with such a drive.

wishingW3L4191d ago

40, 60GB SSD are cheap and they would speed-up games like crazy, it would be like playing games from a cartridge. You can put an SSD on the PS3 but the system does't make use of all its capacity/features so it ends up being just as fast as a 5000RPM HDD. But the X720 will have newer motherboards with higher speed bus and connectivity and it will be able to take full advantage of it.

Kushan4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

SSDs aren't so unthinkable. Unlike tradditional Hard Drives, the same amount of storage in an SSD will get cheaper over time. HDD's hit a "limit" whereby the cost of components just can't get any cheaper. That's why both the 360 and PS3 have upgraded the HDD space sold over time, because it's actually cheaper to do so.

Now Flash memory is different, it always gets cheaper and cheaper so over time the same amount of space WILL cost less money. SSDs are just flash memory (with a controller) packed into a HDD-sized shell. It's not unthinkable that Microsoft may bundle say 16Gb of SSD-like flash memory to be used purely as a cach for games to load faster, faster than a normal HDD can allow.

ajax174191d ago

7,200 rpm would be a pretty nice standard though...

Mounce4191d ago

I would think that the best alternative is this.

SSD + Cloud.

SSD for important files that need loading but also dependable Cloud storage and server-based data storing methods.

SilentNegotiator4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

SSD is no where near being cheap or reliable enough. And one year probably won't bring them to that point. Not when downloading games, DLC, etc is becoming bigger and bigger.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

Seeing how wiiU is selling I am thinking that MS might want to have you buy exteranl HDD's.

Accept they will be over priced xbox branded 100GB HDD's for $99.

Anonagrog4191d ago

The costs of SSD's are shooting down so fast at the moment. If we assume xmas time next year as the earliest release possibility for new consoles, a lot can happen in that time.

@Mikefizzled, regarding SSD life-span.

The life-span limits you mention are so out of reach for most people that they aren't worth worrying about. I mean, the Samsung 830 256gb hdd, for example, has a suggested write cycle limit of 3000 cycles. That's 256gb*3000 = 750 terabytes. That'd let you write over 200gb to it every day for 10 years before you should expect it to start faltering. That's in the worse case too.

Dovahkiin4191d ago

@badvlad

Are you joking? 8gb of ram is all it will need for years to come. Skyrim on PC only allocates itself 2gb.

Research.

cannon88004190d ago (Edited 4190d ago )

Lets just hope that everything will work out just fine for all the next gen consoles; hardware wise, software wise and sales wise.

SITH4190d ago (Edited 4190d ago )

Funny, multiple websites are reporting next gen consoles will have SSD drives. And $600, you mean like the ps3 was when it launched high speed?

I have two ssd drives in my alienware they were not expensive.

http://i1114.photobucket.co...

You might want to find a new hobby next gen light weight. Or find a better job.

GrumpyVeteran4190d ago (Edited 4190d ago )

Moron. You can buy a Sandisk Extreme 120GB SSD for less than $100 now. They are no longer expensive and soon will be reaching the point of being inexpensive.

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grailly4191d ago

you can put it in yourself if you really want ssd

FlameBaitGod4191d ago

Mikefizzled

What the hell are you talking about ? SSD have no moving parts which make them last longer than traditional HDD's. Educate yourself before posting pleas.

DoomeDx4191d ago

Do your SSD Research..

You do know that SSD's dont have a very good lifespan.
If you use your Console (with SSD) for more then 4 years, you will notice some impressive slow downs.

SSD's are using Cells..The cells can run out and the SSD will die.

HDD's on the other hand..have the advantage of lifespan.

What do you prefer?

Speed, or lifespan? Besides the diffrence in gaming with an SSD is minimal. So SSD's would be useless for a gaming console.

Extra money, for a very tiny gain.

Kushan4191d ago

SSDs are rated for the same lifespan of HDD's these days. Early SSDs were different, modern ones are much better at handling that sort of thing.

Conzul4191d ago

The difference in gaming with an SSD is NOT minimal. That's just plain untrue.

Loading screens literally cease to exist, amongst other benefits.

vishant1014191d ago

SSD's are built these days to replenish their cells. they now have higher life capacity but i would prefer a cross hybrid of HDD nd SSD where only certain game data is ported to SSD when u play that game.

atticus144191d ago

If they have plenty of Ram SSDs wont be needed really. But SSDs are due for some more price crashing, but vendors are still trying to get rid of old stock first.

With all the digital content they want to sell you however I think they will want a bigger hard drive. Unless they choose to gimp it at first with small sized SSDs so the fanboys will constantly upgrade hardware with each refresh.

I wouldn't mind small SSDs if they allowed external storage though, because it makes the speed of SSDs standard for all game developers to work with from day one on all systems

Syntax-Error4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

The developers already have the kits and so far I've read that AGAIN, the xbox kit is superior to the PS4 dev kit. PS4 is has done away with cell according to insiders. Article doesn't make sense especially when they said the speculate the name is going to be simply XBOX. The first one is just called XBOX, so how do you distinguish the two? If someone walked in a store and said can I get a Playstation, iPod, Nintendo,or Samsung Galaxy...the clerk is going to ask DUH, WHICH ONE?

Ben_Grimm4191d ago

Do you really think retailers sell the 1st xbox? C'mon now.

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hesido4191d ago

Whatabout a hybrid system?

A small fraction of the harddisk could be ssd to reduce cost but provide performance, and only the active game would use it for streaming frequently used assets, and the SSD portion could be flushed after the game.

However I would like an 8x bluray drive instead of SSD. That'd be pretty good.

BuLLDoG9094190d ago (Edited 4190d ago )

Why would we need ssd's ?.
I bet you believe them articles too saying next gen game production costs are going to multiply....

BF3 maxed on ultra settings @ 1080p on pc, we'll be lucky to get hardware capable of getting close to that level of performance, games that have already been made over a year ago needing no ssd or crazy high production costs, no need "next gen" either..

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badvlad4191d ago (Edited 4191d ago )

yay = )im getting 1 first day, as i did with the 360 hopefully it will be cheaper. I bought mine 05 for 470 euros premium.

sandman2244191d ago

I can't wait. I hope next year brings us the new Xbox.

Trago13374191d ago

Show me how Watch Dogs and Star Wars 1313 run on the thing, Then we can talk.

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Nintendo says Switch 2 will be officially announced before the end of March 2025

This is Furukawa, President of Nintendo. We will make an announcement about the successor to Nintendo Switch within this fiscal year. It will have been over nine years since we announced the existence of Nintendo Switch back in March 2015. We will be holding a Nintendo Direct this June regarding the Nintendo Switch software lineup for the latter half of 2024, but please be aware that there will be no mention of the Nintendo Switch successor during that presentation.

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

I'm excited for a switch 2 however I don't feel it will be coming this year as per the tweet in they are commuting to a reveal in this Japanese financial year in 2025.

Realistically we will get one last holiday season to focus on the switch because it would be madness for Nintendo to go into the holidays where the switch always performs well when they have announced a switch 2.

I'm thinking we see a announcement late Jan 25 personally with a release between March and June depending on when the software is ready and how strong the holday sales were if they need to boost those figures for the next earnings call or not

gold_drake1d 9h ago

yea agreed. they'll probably match it with the new pkmn game they announced

VenomUK1d 9h ago

So it begins!

Where one contender pulls out of the game, another comes back bigger and stronger.

Nintendo Switch 2 - let the games begin.

Cacabunga22h ago

A new Splatoon launch title for sure.. hoping they change the recipe and make it open world.

I think it’ll come out Q1 25. Let’s wait and see

H91d 4h ago

There's a event in June for games on the switch and they said there won't be a switch 2 announcement so no way they will announce the console after june and still release it in the same year

Eonjay1d 4h ago

So, I think they will shoot for another FYQ4 release (like with the first Switch) but I am confused by the headline:

'[...] Switch 2 will be officially ANNOUNCED before the end of March 2025' This implies that the Switch 2 isn't coming out till maybe holiday 2025 or maybe even 2026. I think they will be better served by NOT releasing when GTA 6 launches (unless there is some shocking reveal that it will run on Switch 2). Release early 2025.

Neonridr1d 6h ago

I'd say it'll be released before March 2025 tbh.

Asuka1d 6h ago

About time. I can't wait!

notachance1d 5h ago

Holiday announcement with summer launch

thesoftware7301d 5h ago

It should be an interesting year; Sony, Nintendo, and MS all have new Hardware to show.

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy8521d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted21d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere21d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook721d ago (Edited 21d ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy8521d ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga21d ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher21d ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble20d ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike21d ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv7221d ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

crazyCoconuts20d ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire21d ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer199221d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga21d ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk21d ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 72121d ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty20d ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds21d ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx1221d ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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XDefiant misses launch window, Ubi says a new release date will be announced after stress test

XDefiant was originally supposed to be out in summer 2023, but following a seemingly-successful beta test in April of that year, it was bumped to October 2023, and then delayed again to an unspecified future date. In its February 2024 financial report, Ubisoft slated XDefiant for launch in the fourth quarter of its 2023-24 fiscal year, which ended March 31.

A week before that date arrived, rumors surfaced that the game would be delayed yet again, and a few days later Ubisoft made it official.

"The game has always been community-first, with player feedback as a top priority," the development team said in the update. "While we hoped to go live by the end of March, there are still some improvements that we need to test before that."

Ubisoft said it's "finishing preparations" for a server stress test that will run for 12 hours on PC, PlayStation 5, and Xbox Series X|S. "After this short test, we expected to be able to lock a launch date and start sharing more about exciting content XDefiant has to offer in the future!"

just_looken36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

The previous news was from the team/rumors this is ubisoft themselves now saying the game is delayed again no new date set but they will have a stress test on a date that has not been set.

So the game is delayed to _____ TBD
Network stress test at ____ TBD

Ubisoft we make games whenever for whoever we just do not care

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X-2335d ago

I'm just going to be honest here and say what people seem to not want to, XDefiant success is going to be short-lived and it's because it's a game that's going to be under Ubisoft's umbrella. The development team can be absolute rockstars, but with Ubisoft steering the ship it's not going to go anywhere.

Profchaos35d ago

It could be a truely amazing game (it won't be) but with Ubisoft it will be monitized within a inch of its life.

smolinsk35d ago

The game is dead move on. It's the same with the Finals. These short period hype games doesn't last.

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