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Microsoft: Kinect Sells 20 Million Units

Matt Barlow, the general manager of product marketing at Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment Business, in an interview with GamesIndustry International has announced that its hand-free controller, the Kinect, has shipped 20 million units worldwide.

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Abash4207d ago

Werent the sales at 18 million last holiday season? The sales for it have slowed down immensely, hopefully this shows that the audience has no interest in such peripherals

Godmars2904207d ago

Never underestimate PR spin.

darthv724207d ago

it will always be reflected on as an afterthought. it happened with sega cd and 32x and has happened with move and kinect.

Basically, if it doesnt come with the unit from the beginning, it doesnt get looked on as something the consumer will likely get later.

UNLESS they had the intention to get one regardless. So now all new systems sold with kinect i would think are selling better than the kinect by itself.

At least that way you know you are getting a system and kinect that are designed to work with each other out of the box. There are still many of us older gen 360 users that have yet to buy into it because of the price and the possibility that if after getting one, our systems will die.

Yeah, i have that thought now and then.

Godmars2904207d ago (Edited 4207d ago )

The Sega add-ons were attempt to extend the system's life. Failed because they were too specific. Move and Kinect were attempts to copy the Wii. One though semi-useful with its own and adapted games is generally dismissed, while the other has been promoted as a lifestyle with a half billion dollar ad campaign behind it. Its a decent remote but many of its games just don't work.

All that aside I was offhandedly commenting about Abash pointing out that after a year of reporting Kinect as a success with 18 million sales in its first year, some PR shill is going to try and tout 2 million sold a year later as a success and not a sales stall.

And what was that about thinking?

ItsTrue4207d ago

Can someone actually tell me what PR stands for??

zebramocha4207d ago

@its pr stands for public relations.

darthv724207d ago

but wouldnt kinect and move be consider a way to extend both platforms as well? Granted they are simply trying to capitalize on the wii craze but still the idea is there.

To branch out and grab a portion of the market that people ignored. The segs cd example was an extension to the platform but it wasnt so much a change in the way things were played. It was essentially a 2ndary platform within the primary.

kinect and move were after the facts as neither were a primary focus when the platforms launched. Now that will likely change this next time around with more move integration and more kinect integration.

But just as saturn became segas disc only platform on the heals of the sega cd...everything has to start somewhere.

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dedicatedtogamers4207d ago

The thing I want to see (but the info is never available) is I want to know how many STAND-ALONE Kinect units sold compared to units that were sold with a system bundle (i.e sold to a soccer mom for the holidays).

THAT would be interesting to see. I imagine the numbers would be incredibly lopsided.

Megaton4207d ago

Its sales practically halted after launch holiday. Evidence of what many had suspected; channel stuffing.

Christopher4207d ago

Pretty much. They've sold about 3m in the last year. I think that's indicative of what people want out of the 360. I think software sales over the last year have also spoken well enough as to the overall desire of Kinect games.

camel_toad4207d ago

That's 20 million mistakes and that includes mine.

CyberCam4206d ago

And with M$'s new patent, they can spy on 20 million people that made the mistake of inviting M$ into there homes to watch them in front of their TV's.

Good Luck with that!

camel_toad4206d ago

@cybercam

Microsoft likes to watch.

testerg354207d ago

So selling almost to 1/3 the user base is not good? Interesting...

camel_toad4207d ago (Edited 4207d ago )

I didn't say they had poor sales. I was implying that buying one was a mistake that I also made myself.

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Blankman854207d ago

Quite the slow down indeed, then again Kinect has a proven record of selling crazy numbers over the holidays.

NYC_Gamer4207d ago

The slow down is because there isn't much quality software

guitarded774207d ago

I don't know who disagreed with you, but they must have some mental issue. Unfortunately, there isn't much quality software for Kinect. My wife and her friends like the Dance Central titles, which are good in quality, and she likes the Zumba games for working out. I enjoyed The Haunt, Child of Eden (which I ended up just playing with a controller for the most part) and portions of Star Wars Kinect. Kinect Sports games are okay, and I still want to play Fable The Journey when I get some time and the game on the cheap... but for as long as Kinect has been out, there are few games worth playing. If it was just more accurate, I think more developers would make games for it. One problem is the accuracy makes many games a technical mess at times, making review scores plummet and less reason to invest in new software.

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greenpowerz4207d ago (Edited 4207d ago )

The price was almost the price of the 4gig console and half of the prem model. Kinect cost $150 far too long hense the most recent drop in price. I see PS3 fans in here attacking Kinect but won't give PS Vita the same logic.

As for the $99 xbox payment plan MSFT won't do a real drop(don't have to) so this is the next best thing besides the retail drop perhaps testing this plan out for the possible expensive xbox 720(Kinect is seen as over pricedby consumers for what it is despite it actually being worth more than we're being charged based on tech and R&D)

That is still alot of Kinects, install base ratio wise.

I see people in here talking about a number that always seems to be the same just like the numbers Sony releases for PS3.

HappyTrigger4207d ago

All this talk about slow down and I can't help but feel surprised that the Kinect even managed to sell 20 million units.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7722h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE19h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware73018h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor15h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos15h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor15h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos15h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 17h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 17h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 21h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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