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Ninja Theory: Capcom Didn't Want To Make Devil May Cry 5

Capcom didn't just want to make another Devil May Cry sequel according to DmC studio Ninja Theory

Devil May Cry 5 was never in Capcom's thinking when it decided to return to the over-the-top action franchise, according to Ninja Theory co-founder Tameem Antoniades.

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jc485734206d ago (Edited 4206d ago )

Capcom is too greedy. just because DMC4 didn't sell to their expectations, then they decide to find other methods to revive it. They want to break it even with 7 million per game.

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AsheXII4206d ago

its not about being greedy, if they were they wouldn't be investing in this reboot and starting over from scratch. Its about franchise exhaustion.

thaking1554206d ago (Edited 4206d ago )

Or the fact that they weren't adaquate in progressing the story along in which that's why they kept making reboots (hense DMC 3&4)

Congrats Capcom you officially graduated to the levels of BUMS!!!

You lost alot of fans when you took Devil May Cry and did not progress into a sequel for DMC5 but made another Prequel (this time for real rebooting it unlike the attempt you made with DMC 4 and Nero) and the making of RE 5 and made it worse with RE6. The Lost Planet games had potential and that went down the toilet, haven't made another Onimusha game since Dawn of Dreams (how everything is going at Capcom, PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE YOU WILL SCREW IT UP SOMEHOW like all other games from the GEN)

Seriously, Devil May Cry still has the fans and yes may needed to get refreshed a bit but that's why you test out different gameplay mechanics and try something new. "Oh wanted to reboot but keep the gameplay/combat ummm ok, that makes alot of sense.... Not!

Devil May Cry 5 is what everyone was waiting on and with Ninja Theory taking the helm everyone including me was on board because at the very least they can do stories very well (I admit that one! I would've been fine with them or Santa Monica aka GoW developers doing the game) but rebooting when the game still has a story says oh we don't know where to go with the story now and we've lost vision of the franchise. Give the rights back to it's back to the original creator, because he can for SURE progress the story along and bring some relevancy back to DMC.

Blaze9294206d ago

They need to make a new got damn Onimusha...

bayonetta4206d ago (Edited 4206d ago )

Ninja Theory :
"What was very clear was they didn’t want to make Devil May Cry 5. They didn’t want to make something that looked like the previous four, " Antoniades said during NowGamer's recent visit to the studio. "They wanted a new entry point into the series with a different perspective, which is why they came to us."

DmC is a prequel which reboots the series with protagonist Dante depicted as a young man - but Capcom was less comfortable with rebooting the gameplay mechanics.

"Whereas Capcom Japan gave us quite a lot of leeway on the story, setting and starting the franchise again, if you like, on the combat they were very hands-on," Antoniades explained. "Combat, enemies, bosses, they were very hands-on. They visit us maybe every six to eight weeks or so. They bring Itsuno-san, who is the director of 2, 3 and 4, and they’d sit with our designers and animators and pore through every detail of combat and mechanics.

"That was kind of the division of responsibility, if you like. We were charged with reinventing the world and the character, and they were in charge of ensuring we understood the philosophy of Devil May Cry combat and effectively make a Japanese combat game within a Western story."

Jinkies4206d ago (Edited 4206d ago )

"and they were in charge of ensuring we understood the philosophy of Devil May Cry combat and effectively make a Japanese combat game within a Western story."

Well Capcom failed their job since NT obviously don't have a clue about DMC. I mean Half devil, half angel....REALLY.

Hufandpuf4206d ago

Alternate reality, and it's a game. Who cares if they mix it up a little.

Croash4206d ago (Edited 4206d ago )

Well Jinkies, it appears you do not even try to understand what you read.

Let's take another look at that quote.

"We were charged with --> reinventing the world and the character, <--

and they were in charge of ensuring we understood the
--> philosophy of Devil May Cry combat <--

and effectively make a --> Japanese combat <--

game within a --> Western story <--."

Half devil, half angel?
Yes, really.

(Edit) Or as Hufandpuf's avatar would say :
Quite really ;)

MilkMan4206d ago

Games is gonna sell millions, just like Resident Evil 6 did. Hell, I hated DMC 1, 2 and 3 and 4 I liked Bayonetta much more than these, but this new DMC has peeked my interest. So Ill give it a spin.

Tontus4206d ago

It probably won't sell millions even if it's fantastic. DMC4 on all platforms struggled to reach about 2.5 million and this game won't reach near that due to it being a reboot, a different developer, legs will be cut short by the approach of next gen and this game has A LOT of competition next year.

I've never liked the DMC franchise mostly because I hate Japanese games (their films are good though) but this new DmC looks great so I hope it does well, if not Ninja Theory are probably finished since all of their past games have flopped which would be a shame.

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Ninja Theory trends on X as gamers fear for studio following Tango Gameworks closure

Following the closure of 4 studios, many are now worried for the future of Ninja Theory once Hellblade 2 is released.

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Sonic18811h ago(Edited 1h ago)

How is it going to sell well when it's also releasing on gamepass 🤔

Sephiroushin1h ago

Meant better to sell the studio and not closing it 🤦🏻 not to sell more games….
and games are sold anyways, you can buy it on xbox (not recommended if you got gamepass) but many pc gamers prefer to buy on steam than deal with the xbox app or pc gamepass!

On a side note to OP, the sales of studios wont happen though, especially when they want to retain the IPs, and well nobody is gonna buy a studios without its IPs; the other publishers that want a certain dev from the studio that are closing on their team can try to grab them as soon as they see they notice of the studio.

Lightning7719h ago

Because they're next come next year. HB2 won't hit some impossible metric within MS so they're getting axed in 2025. Leave gaming now MS.

XiNatsuDragnel11h ago

Ninja theory might as well be gone in 2025 at this rate

notachance2h ago

Every xbox studio is in danger now because there’s just no way they’re gonna rake in big money from game sales because of gamepass, even CoD was rumored to not come to gamepass because it would canibalize their sales number.

neutralgamer199236m ago

If they are smart they don’t put COD on GP day one. It’s one of the best selling games on yearly basis

Hofstaderman7m ago

Satya will make sure that doesnt happen. As you rightly put it; why kill the cash cow?

But then again, it is MS after all.....

Rynxie2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Ninja theory games were never big sellers. I could be wrong, but I doubt hellblade 2 will sell millions. I would rather they go independent and make heavenly sword 2.

solideagle2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

heavenly sword is Sony owned IP. this will never happen as original didn't sell enough...

Wikipedia: "In 2008, it was reported that a sequel to Heavenly Sword was in-development at SCE Studio Cambridge, but was canceled due to Sony no longer seeing it as a commercially viable product"

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Ranking the Devil May Cry Series

VGChartz's Mark Nielsen: "Upon finally finishing Devil May Cry 5 recently - after it spent several years on my “I’ll play that soon” list - I considered giving it a fittingly-named Late Look article. However, considering that this was indeed the final piece I was missing in the DMC puzzle, I decided to instead take this opportunity to take a look back at the entirety of this genre-defining series and rank the entries. What also made this a particularly tempting notion was that while most high-profile series have developed fairly evenly over time, with a few bumps on the road, the history of Devil May Cry has, at least in my eyes, been an absolute roller coaster, with everything from total disasters to action game gold."

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VersusDMC19d ago

First to last for me...3,4,5,1,2.

VersusDMC19d ago

Me leaving it out should be telling of my thoughts on it. Better than 2 as a DMC game.

Still a good game though.

Exvalos18d ago

What a weird name, it's essentially devil may cry, devil may cry lol

Cacabunga18d ago

Best to good for me: 3, reboot, 1, 5

2 and 4 are trash, didnt like any of them.
5 has very good gameplay variety but i hated the foes.. it is just insects the whole time. Reboot has the best foes for me

Friendlygamer19d ago

3,1,4,5 to me, never played 2. 5 gameplay is amazing but level design was really disappointing to me, just a bunch of plain arenas, the story felt like a worse written rehash of the 3rd and the charater models looked weird ( specially the ladies ). Another problem with 5 was that there was not enough content for 3 charaters so I could never really familiarize with any of them

monkey60219d ago (Edited 19d ago )

2.
Dmc.
4.
5.
1.
3.

God DMC2 was an awful game.
And in case this isn't obvious it goes worst to best

Yui_Suzumiya19d ago

1 and DmC. The rest are unimportant.

DarXyde19d ago

Order changes depending on your focus. I tend to focus on gameplay/fun factor, so...

5, 3, 1, 4, 2.

I really didn't like 4 but commend Dante's weapon diversity. The retreading of old ground was pretty unacceptable to me.

But even then... Still more enjoyable than 2 for me

SeTTriP19d ago

This right here is my order as I thought DMC 5 was amazing and obviously 3 comes after 4 was great and 1 for the nastilgic value it holds 2 was so terrible that my local GameStop gave full refunds to people who returned it.

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Former Hellblade Director & Ninja Theory Founder Explains Why He Left The Studio

Former Hellblade director and Ninja Theory co-founder has offered an explanation regarding his departure from the now Microsoft-owned studio.

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XiNatsuDragnel31d ago

I hope he forms a new studio soon

Cacabunga31d ago

It is a good studio.. i really enjoyed their dmc game that i platinumed it.
I did not try hellblade, because it doesnt tell me much.. Enslaved was very mehhh
Heavenly Sword was good not great. Amazing graphics back in the day but so repetitive and not so engaging in the long run.

stoney10131d ago

I really enjoyed Enslaved and Heavenly Sword back in the day. Wish they'd return to that sort of game. Hellblade isn't really for me to be honest. Not saying it's not a good game, I just couldn't get into it.

Popsicle30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

That is fair. I enjoyed Hellblade but can definitely see how it isn’t for everyone.

Would like to see how Heavenly Sword would have turned out if developed today. It’s easy to forget that games like Heavenly Sword were unprecedented and in their infancy.

shinoff218330d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Enslaved has been their favorite game for me. Loved the atmosphere.

1nsomniac30d ago

Heavenly sword was a staggeringly good game!! One of the most memorable of the PS3 generation in my opinion.

Babadook730d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Heavenly sword was good. It had ambitious graphics and as a result the frame rate suffered and as a result the gameplay suffered. But the story was phenomenal. Great acting, especially Andy Serkis as the king.

Jingsing30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

"Microsoft" we all read between the lines. We have seen the exact same thing happen with many of their other acquisitions

InUrFoxHole30d ago

Jesus man! Try reading the article at least.

cthulhucultist30d ago

One thing that pleasantly surprised me, was the Switch port, as back then it was my only console. The graphics were amazing and the artistic design helped a lot to enhance the visuals.I took some really impressive screen shots while playing which I still revisit them from time to time to remind me what a capable developer (QLOC) can achieve with weaker hardware.

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