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Will the XBOX 360 Successor Simply be Named 'XBOX'?

Joel Taveras writes, "If you’re familiar with the going ons at Microsoft, then I’m sure you’ve heard a little something about Windows 8. It’s a new direction for the company and something that Microsoft hopes will bring true convergence to their products and services across every category. The Xbox brand is playing a major role in this company-wide transformation, and I think that a minor (unannounced) update made on their Windows Phone platform today may revel some small yet significant info about the Xbox brand moving forward."

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Relientk774220d ago

There is already an Xbox, it came out in 2001. Isn't that confusing, then theres 2 Xboxes

nrvalleytime4220d ago

Mind blown.

Suggestions for the new console:

Xbox 2x.
Xbox 520 - the middle years
Xbox x Xbox = Xbox squared
Future Xbox
Xbox Now
N4GBox

guitarded774220d ago

It will be XBOX ______ (insert something). Microsoft has too much invested in xbox.com as far as players being able to access their accounts and make purchases. Also, XBOX is not just a name, it's a brand which they make a lot of money on. They will not take a chance with a billion dollar brand by naming it something stupid.

dalibor4220d ago

I like the sound of Xbox Zeta or Xbox Sonarus. It will be interesting if they stick with Durango but I doubt it.

Nexgensensation4219d ago

Xbox
Xbox 360
Xperience
Console X
Micro X
X-soft
Xinect
Xube( sounds like Cube )
The new M$ Xrossover!
jinx?

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TheFinalEpisode4220d ago (Edited 4220d ago )

No no no that was Xbox, this is XBOX!

MerkinMax4220d ago

So you scream the name? That will definitely be a successful marketing strategy.

ConstipatedGorilla4219d ago

I know you're joking, but I would just call it Xbox. iPad is just iPad again and nobody got confused. It's not like the old Xbox will be on the shelves to confuse customers with.

colonel1794220d ago

My guess is that it will call Xbox 8 to go along Windows 8. If not, it might be called Xbox Play or something like that which unifies MS line up of gadgets.

Definitely not Xbox 3, because of PS4. Even thought I am 100% the next PS won't be called PS4, but PS (something).

Laxman4220d ago

How are you 100% on that?

colonel1794220d ago

Because of the Vita. They could have easily called it PSP 2 and keep the tradition, but they chose not to. The same will happen with the PS4. There is no way they will call it PS4, because of marketing strategy.

Also, if MS names the next Xbox with some number, like Xbox 8, it would make the PS4 "lesser". That's the same reason MS didn't name the Xbox 360, Xbox 2.

Mr Tretton4220d ago

I'm in agreement that game companies are dropping numbers unless they have symbolic quality, in which most don't.

I can see an 'Xbox 8' but using it as the symbol for infinite. Sony will not release a PS4. That's an easy bet. They need to release a catchy name (like 'Wii') where it just becomes that, rather than a PS 'something.' Everyone knows the PS brand. But a catchy hip name will do wonders like it did for Nintendo.

Qrphe4220d ago

Plus the number 4 is Japan's unlucky 13.

InactiveUser4220d ago

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

There will be a PlayStation 4. The home console brand is plenty strong and well known enough to overcome any 3rd grade "OMG 8's bigger than 4" talk.

You mention the Vita deviating for the traditional naming scheme. And how exactly did that work out for the Vita?

Did Vita work better than PSP2 vs. the 3DS? Nope. It (the Vita) is still being outsold by the PSP and being destroyed sales-wise by the 3DS.

Vita getting destroyed by a 3. Wii beat out two 3s hardware sales-wise. And you draw a solid conclusion that they 'need' to go with a name instead of a number from the real world examples showing both completely opposite ends of the spectrum?

I don't think Sony is dumb enough to not call their next console the PlayStation 4 (PS4).

People want a PS4. They'll be looking and googling for a PS4. Nobody knows what the heck an Orbis is or any other name. They'd have to waste a ton of time and money to get the name recognition that PlayStation 4 already has.

PlayStation 4 makes PS5, PS6, PS7, etc. stronger and stronger in name recognition from the start.

InactiveUser4220d ago (Edited 4220d ago )

@Japanese superstition of the number 4.

Don't start that lame nonsense again.

グランツーリスモ4
http://www.gamechoiceclub.c...

Yes, that's Gran Turismo 4, not Gran Turismo Orbis.

Sony model XBA-4 headphones:
http://store.sony.com/p/Son...

They have no issue making 4GB memory cards.
They have no issue having Android 4.0 on their phones.
Or having mp4 music players.

Sony is a 4 letter word. Whoa!!!

VAIO is a 4 letter word.

They sell batteries in packs of 4:
http://www.poundland.co.uk/...
http://www.poundland.co.uk/...
http://www.mcmelectronics.c...
http://ecx.images-amazon.co...

And VHS tapes:
http://ecx.images-amazon.co...
http://images.bestbuy.com/B...

And markers:
http://ecx.images-amazon.co...

Sony VPL-EX4 Projector:
http://www.projectorcentral...

And whatever these 8mm tapes are that look like cassettes maybe:
http://ecx.images-amazon.co...
http://ecx.images-amazon.co...

Walkman WM-4:
http://news.cnet.com/2300-1...

Not Metal Gear Solid: Orbis
http://i197.photobucket.com...

SOCOM 4
Twisted Metal 4:
http://www.gaminggeneration...

Sony LTO Ultrium 4:
http://www.image-nation.com...

Sony Xperia J with a 4 inch screen, running Android 4.0, releasing Q4 2012:
http://www.mobileburn.com/2...

etc. etc. etc.

End that lame 'Japan is afraid/superstitious of the number 4' argument.

nukeitall4220d ago

My guess is Xbox Infinite makes the most sense, as the marketing can slightly suggest Windows 8, or just 8 before making it horizontal.

Xbox Loop is also a good choice in my opinion.

Xbox Play would sound too much like Google Play and is kind of stupid in my opinion. It is now an entertainment box, not just to "play" games, but who knows what MS plans are.

PinkFunk4220d ago

@EeJLP

Ahh. I had a good laugh waking up. Consider the '4' myth debunked today.

Pillsbury14219d ago

You're kidding right. RIGHT?! Why wouldnt it be called ps4??? Of course it is!

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dark-hollow4220d ago

It won't create confusion because nobody knows about the original Xbox.....

ALLWRONG4218d ago

Accept the 24 million who bought it.

24 to 70 million is pretty good.

TENTONGUN4220d ago

yeah but that was 10 years ago and i dont think anyone will confuse it givin the fact that it was discontinued when the 360 released. i dont think nothin is wrong with calling it just xbox

IAMERROR4220d ago

Someone better call Sega! They know how to name a console!

XB1_PS44220d ago

True. Dreamcast is still my favorite name for a system. I mean come on. Dreamcast.. Dreeeeamcast. It just has that certain ring to it.

Irishguy954220d ago

8 = Windows 8

And they can stick it sideways for Infinity/ So Windows 8 and Infinity are thrown together/

Tsar4ever014220d ago (Edited 4220d ago )

How about XBOX 8/X-Infinity for it's Windows 8 os it'll be running off of.

Than there's my personal name, the NeXBOX, remove the "T" and the word flows more naturally as one word than if you keep the t, with the T it'll sound like 2 words.

Beastforlifenoob4219d ago

hahah its good if you want to destroy the marketing for that console

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PopRocks3594220d ago

I like Nextbox. No dice there?

nrvalleytime4220d ago (Edited 4220d ago )

It's too forward thinking. I'm thinking all of my above suggestions need a number so that everyone knows which version I'm buying.

Because the fact that it's new isn't enough.

...

Knight_Crawler4220d ago

I like Nextbox name too but Rogers beat MS to the name

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012...

peowpeow4220d ago

seXbox to accomodate the ability to watch porn

Pillsbury14219d ago

I like XXXbox better. ;)

Griffin48714220d ago

How about not call it a box at all?

NoFanboyRequired4219d ago (Edited 4219d ago )

If it wasnt xbox, it would be the DirectX-box. That was the original name for it, but they took the "direct" out of there for reasons.

DirectX-box because its based off of the DirectX technology.

Glad they changed it, because that just sounds retarded.

But Xbox Infinity/Infinite do sound like great names.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7218h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle5h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18812h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga4h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21834h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1017h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac6h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1015h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic4h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 15h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 12h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 9h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 3h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 4h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 12h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic22h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9021h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 13h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 10h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 12h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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