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Pachter: Bayonetta/Monster Hunter Fans Will Buy A Wii U Regardless of Price; Talks Wii U Success

Zelda Informer writes: Pachter seems to be really pleased with the Wii U after all the surprises Nintendo gave us yesterday, but we know PS360 Bayonetta fans were more than displeased. So what does Pachter have to say about all this?

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JellyJelly4252d ago

A real analyst would say that the possibility of Bayonetta 2 going multiplat and being released on the 360/PS3 in the future is highly likely. It's most likely timed exclusivity to push the Wii-U at launch. Most people will probably hold off for a while and see what happens.

iamnsuperman4252d ago

Isn't Nintendo acting as the publisher????? They may not own the franchise but I suspect that a deal for Nintendo helping with the financial side of the game would be exclusivity. (Similar to Mass Effect 1 not being on the PS3)

NewMonday4252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

that is why most people will hold off and see what happens.

but Nintendo only have one year before the real next gen starts.

if only they spent another 100$ on the tech and dumped the screen fad they could have won, but they insists on driving full speed into a brick wall

Hisiru4252d ago

@JellyJelly
I will have to say it again because it seems people is living in the dream world:
This time nintendo is INVESTING MONEY in the production of the game. I am sorry to say you that but the game was announced as an exclusive, the team already confirmed Nintendo will help them make the franchise even better.

You won't see this game on another platform, it's a deep collaboration between Nintendo and Platinum Games. Deal with it and stop making excuses.

It's funny that people is always saying "I have no reason to buy a WiiU" and when they get more reasons they give more excuses.

Also, PS4 and x720 will have great exclusives as well. I suspect there will be reasons to buy every console. No need to make excuses.

000014252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

im not quite sure why people are thinking its going to head to xbox or ps3, its like micosoft publishing mass effect and sony publishing mgs4, its just one of those games thatll be exclusive. people just need to get over it. buy a wii u or dont buy a wii u, but im tired of people bitching over one damn game.

stragomccloud4252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

@new monday. I still can't believe that people disregard the Wii U as a next gen platform. I guess then we could infer that when the PS2 was out last generation, that it was in fact 2 generations behind. Because compared to the Gamecube and the Xbox, the hardware was laughable. Yet it still held its' own. I do not believe you will actually look into the architecture of Nintendo's new system to find out out just how much more powerful the thing is when compared to current gen offerings, nor will I try to explain. Needless to say, the next offerings from Microsoft/Sony will not be nearly as powerful as people are expecting when compared to Nintendo's next gen platform.

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krautgamer4252d ago

NINTENDO publishes Bayonetta 2.. no way it´s gonna end up on another console

gaffyh4252d ago

Ninja Gaiden Sigma says hi.

vallencer4252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

@gaffyh

Ninja gaiden sigma is also a different game. They got away with it by changing the game around and adding a bunch of new and different stuff in it.

gaffyh4252d ago

Actually, it's a remake of Ninja Gaiden 2, which was published by Microsoft.

DigitalAnalog4252d ago

Sony also published Heavy Rain. But you won't see Heavy Rain: The Beta Chronicles on the 360 in the near future now would you?

Baka-akaB4252d ago

I dunno why people keep mentioning Microsoft and NG .

Nintendo as a publisher always had a way tigher grip .

Microsoft had no qualm about letting NG and mass effect go

gaffyh4252d ago

@digitalanalog - Probably depends on whether or not Nintendo actually owns the IP. Because Sony owns Heavy Rain IP, meaning it cannot be spun-off or released on anything else, without their permission. That was not the case for Mass Effect or Ninja Gaiden obviously.

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Aceman184252d ago

no i didn't like the game that much when i played it on 360, and i've never played any of the monster hunter games so i will not be buying the wii u on launch because of these two games.

i'll stick to my original plan to buy it 6mths-1yr after launch.

Getowned4252d ago

Monster Hunter is a good game but (IMO) you love it or hate it. I wont buy a console just for monster hunter. I can't believe anyone would buy a console just for the fact it has Bayonetta 2 XD!! that made me LOL

"why are you buying a WiiU"
For Bayonetta 2!!!
(!) O___O ... "uhh..."
Bayonetta OWNS!!
"ok than, have fun" O_o;! *Slowly walks away*
* waits for the real next gen console(PS4 & 720) *

stragomccloud4252d ago

At Getowned.

Very true about Monster Hunter. Though in my case, I both love and hate it. lol

Getowned4252d ago

@stragomccloud

I agree I'm the same way, what I hate about it is all the scavenger hunting, also didn't care for the controls on wii no matter how I played it(controler or with a Wii mote). I did enjoy it sometimes though, and I loved killing all the harder to kill monsters. I know Monster Hunter will sell systems and if I decide to get a Wii than I will probably get it.

XD but I don't see Bayonetta as a system seller, its kinda funny that someone would buy a system for just Bayonetta (IMO)

NewMonday4252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

Monster Hunter is a big franchise but the WiiU game is a port available elsewhere

and i'm a Bayonetta fan but not buying it for 360$-410$

iamnsuperman4252d ago

I do not see Bayonetta being that big enough for a large majority of people to buy the system just for that game. The first one wasn't that popular and that was for multiple systems. Monster Hunter thing, on the other hand, is massive. Especially in the Asia regions

BrutallyBlunt4252d ago

I agree. I doubt Bayonetta 2 is much of a system seller.

stragomccloud4252d ago

Platinum games is one of my favorite developers. Sadly their games, while they do sell decently, never sell well enough to be very noteworthy.

gaffyh4252d ago

Yeah, this will probably sell decently in Japan, but Monster Hunter Tri is already available for PC and Xbox 360, so I don't see it as a big deal.

SonyNGP4252d ago

That's Monster Hunter Frontier. Tri (afaik) is only available on the Wii and 3DS.

gaffyh4252d ago

Ah right, got a little mixed up.

Sono4214252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

You're always a little mixed up...

gaffyh4251d ago

@Sono - So's your face. :p

Well I knew it had been released in some form already, never really played it myself.

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ronin4life4252d ago

By port you mean the 3ds one right?(assuming you are talking about the western market)

Monster hunter 3ultimate is a much fuller game than tri, and has a lot more content including weapons excluded from tri. It won't be a system seller by any means, but it is another solid reason to own a wiiu.

Jonmau54252d ago

Monster Hunter will sell some consoles but if the price was too high then obviously less consoles would be sold.

I think the price of the extra control pads is a real concern for them.

chukamachine4252d ago

If you bought the wii u for bayoncrappa for freaking crazy,lol.

Monster hunter is Japans game.

So yes that is clever.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4252d ago

The problem is. The new monster hunter game is on WiiU AND 3DS. They kinda shot themselves in the foot here because a lot of people have a 3ds, so why would they buy the wiiu and the game when they can just buy the game for 3ds?

Baka-akaB4252d ago

Some people dont need or want a portable monster hunter . I know you kids mostly started on psp or 3ds , but it was originally a home console game :p

vallencer4252d ago

Vashlion don't take it so personally kid.

Baka-akaB4252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

it was more a general statement , i dont know obviously about you .

But like you find odd to play monster hunter on wii U , i find it more weird to bother with the game on portable consoles (especially with the older ones like psp , that couldnt even get a decent camera , with their lack of second stick)

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4252d ago

Ahh fair enough. Personally, I prefer gaming on my pc, so I kinda get where you're coming from.

From my personal experience though, I played MH for the first time on my psp, and actually enjoyed it quite a bit. It was really fun and the controls were far from bad.

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Redempteur4252d ago

"so why would they buy the wiiu and the game when they can just buy the game for 3ds? "

Because the game has cross saves and progression between 3ds and wii U ( it's confirmed as a feature ) ?

ronin4life4252d ago

It will sell well. Not spectacularly, but well.

Look up monster hunter portable 3rd and monster hunter portable 3 hd. The PS3 version sold okay(hd), but the psp one sold incredibly((released first)

Except that the tri series is just a variant of those games(an arguably better one, but still a variant), so the fact that the game has basically been released 5 times now with wiiu can't be ignored either.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno3d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10124d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref23d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde23d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197223d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville23d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218323d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos23d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai24d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref23d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan23d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00722d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197224d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197223d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref23d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde23d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197223d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197223d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier23d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto23d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218323d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto23d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman23d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts23d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts22d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic22d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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