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The case for more honest games

Nightmare Mode's Adam Harshberger outlines some of the reasons games could benefit from more honesty in their storytelling.

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Godmars2904319d ago

There's never really been "honesty" in video games. At least not when cutscenes started to be introduced.

In square titles especially characters are often 10 times as powerful and even smarter in a cutscene than they ever are in an actual game. The Mass Effect series is just as guilty.

Irishguy954319d ago

Hmm, well in the cutscenes they can get killed in one icicle. In game they can you know, survive Supernovas

Capt-FuzzyPants4319d ago

Good point. SPOILER (just kidding everyone should know this by now) Aerith died by getting stabbed in the back. I'm pretty sure she took way harder hits than that in combat.

Tuxedo_Mask4319d ago

Did he really say FFVII and then start talking about Squall?

Someone needs to review their Roman numerals.

Relientk774319d ago (Edited 4319d ago )

He used VIII the first 2 times, and then the last time he used VII. Typo

edit @ below: Yeah, he didnt lol

Skateboard4319d ago

That cutscene is sooo badass. My first FF game and that intro made me jizz from the awesomness.

UnitSmiley4319d ago

So, why are Wrpgs so popular then? All you do is "do shit". The stories are hardly imaginative and the characters personality and attachment to the player is none existent. The game focus is literally on exploration and doing meaningless tasks that hold no true impact to the main plot line.

Yet right now they all seem to sell pretty well, though I have no freaking idea why.

Capt-FuzzyPants4319d ago

It baffles me too. I enjoy them sometimes. But I get bored with them too. It's all about character creation and I care more about somebody like Sora in KH more than someone I created.

UnitSmiley4319d ago

Yeah exactly. To me, if an rpg has memorable characters and story that you can recall even +10 years after playing it, as well as providing you with emotional attachment to what is going on, then it is a success.

Despite the good wrpg sales though, I doubt anyone will recall any character in those games. Whether it's the main character the player created, or the supporting characters that give you "tasks" to do along the way, they have no real personality or connection to players.

TheLyonKing4319d ago

Honesty is not needed, using 8 as an example doesn't help your point. Gameplay takes back seats over story telling.

I would Prefere a well written story even if it causes some anomlies within gameplay such as surviving mega attacks and summons but getting unconscious by Edeas ice attack.

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The Nordic Game 2024 (NG24) Spring conference is to host more than 150 speakers

"While the 20 year anniversary edition of Nordic Game, NG24 Spring's homepage on 21-24 May in Malmö, Sweden, is getting closer, the organizers announced that more than 150 speakers are now lined up for the show." - Nordic Game.

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I Miss When Games Came In Full Package Rather Than Broken Mess Filled With Microtransactions

The gaming industry has drifted away from offering full-fledged games to putting unfinished titles that are jam-packed with microtransactions on the market.

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Christopher1d 13h ago

It's not the fault of the gaming industry. Gamers were told what was happening, were warned about where this would lead, did nothing, and now are acting like it's the fault of publishers that they kept buying these games and investing in MTX. If only those gamers at that time felt as strongly about these things as they do Helldivers 2.

Hugodastrevas1d 13h ago

I don't think MTX target the common gamer but instead predate on the so called "whales". It's gambling pure and simple.

Christopher1d 11h ago

Oh, so it's okay to buy MTX-laden games as long as you don't spend money on MTX, which has led to even more MTX-laden games with even more predatory practices where content that used to be unlocked is now behind paywalls?

C'mon now people. You gave the corporations and inch, and they kept taking and taking. Community members told people that investing in these things alone would only lead to more and more MTX and putting more and more behind paywalls. But it's only the fault of the corporations, not the people who kept supporting it with purchases as more and more was taken away?

Hugodastrevas1d 11h ago

@Christopher that's a straw man, I didn't say any of that I just added context.

-Foxtrot1d 8h ago

Well exactly

People stand up for something which seems small to them and they get called whiners or negative. Then years later the shit hits the fan and they all go “why is this happening?” Like they are innocent.

The issue aswell is younger gamers who grew up with all this thinking it’s normal and we all just look like old farts yelling at clouds when we’re trying to help us all, even them.

Crows9014h ago

Who woulda thought that listening to your elders could be a good idea...too late now

Hofstaderman13h ago

It all started with that damn horse armour. Back then I thought nobody was stupid to buy into that crap. How wrong I was....

CrimsonWing6912h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I like how people move the goal-post. First it’s, f*ck any game with MTX’s, f*ck GaaS games, f*ck this game with “optional” MTX’s (Dragon’s Dogma 2), Helldivers 2 is ok because it’s fun and even though it has Battle Passes or Season Passes and MTX’s it’s ok because… you don’t need to buy them? 🤷‍♂️

HellDivers 2 is the best selling game this year. Just think about that, games like FF7 Rebirth sold poorly, but a continuous game that lives off recurring revenue sells extraordinarily well. Then we’ll hear everyone b*tch about a GaaS future.

I really wonder what this industry would’ve been like if we never gave into this crap, and yes I’m saying “WE” since I’m guilty of it, but man it’s literally no closing the door once it’s been opened.

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Hugodastrevas1d 13h ago

This is what amazed me the most when playing hours upon hours of stellar Blade version 1.00.00 no bugs, no crashes, no sudden drops in frames, no screen tear, no falling from the world, just a complete package on a game under 50GB.
I think Korea will play a major role in gaming in the long run , because they're releasing banger after banger.

isarai1d 12h ago

Still pretty common to find if you stay away from the AAA publishers, in the last 10yrs ive probably only bought like 3 games combined from EA/ACTIVISION/UBISOFT. Even now i still buy games that work right out the box perfectly fine. Just recently got like 6hrs into Alone in the Dark, and not a single sign of any of that bs, really enjoying my time with it.

shinoff21831d 5h ago

There's such a misconception about every game needing a patch,this and that when in reality it's not even close. You nailed it isarai

Crows9014h ago

It's really only AAA devs and publishers that seem to have these constant problems

z2g15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

And we as gamers have to accept our role in that. Constantly never being satisfied. Constantly demanding more while paying less. Constantly demanding better frame rates, better graphics, more modes and faster faster faster…. Then review bombing the product when a demand isn’t met. Meanwhile those same demands are making games more difficult, complex and more expensive to create than ever before, on shrinking timelines that burn out employees and make their lives miserable.

You wanna know why so many games get delayed? Cuz the original release dates weren’t realistic to begin with, but you can’t tell a gamer their game is further away than they want to hear. Some dev or game designer will be threatened physically. That builds even more pressure and rushing. We are officially squeezing water out of rocks and still complaining about that how hard you have to squeeze the rock be just waiting for rain. Most of the time we take it out on the developing studio, when it’s the publisher making the calls.

All you need to do is read the comments on most websites and social media to see how toxic, entitled and petty the gaming community at large is, and realize how that transforms into impossible expectations on the parts of game makers.

Crows9014h ago

Nope. Some gamers are to blame. Never demanded anything you mentioned.

A fully finished and functioning product is a standard. It's not demanded. If someone sells you a tv that only works 60% of the time are you going to recommend it OR write a review calling out the obvious problem...it's not a demand...it's a standard.

A standard triple A publishers can't seem to hit consistently.

thorstein12h ago

You've never heard of planned obsolescence.

HankHill10h ago

I take it you like microtransactions? 🤣

Kinza5501215h ago(Edited 15h ago)

This is one battle that gamers have never won, hahaha. They were parading recently for their "win" against Sony. Where's the energy for this one, guys? LMAO!

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Gamescom Latam 2024 has just announced its finalists for the latam BIG Festival event

"The most important games event of Latin America, gamescom latam, has unveiled the finalists for its flagship award ceremony, the gamescom latam BIG Festival, which celebrates the best in the global market of games." - Gamescom.