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Square Enix compares Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3; talks DLC, sequels and future

In an interview with CNET Japan, Square Enix president Youichi Wada talked about his company's future strategy and the state of the game industry, saying all segments (software, hardware as well as the arcade business) are performing very well.

Asked about the three new consoles, Wada explained, "The Wii is the antithesis of the Xbox 360. (Xbox 360) is strictly for hardcore gamers. The attachment rate for the Xbox 360 is much higher than for the Wii. People who buy the 360 really like games... I think the current trend is that most people aren't buying the Wii as a game machine, but as a toy... It seems that Sony isn't sure what it wants to do. Is it making high-end electronics or a game console for gamers? I want them to clearly define their console."

Wada disputed his interviewer's suggestion that Square Enix had recently released a lot of sequels and remakes, "It's not that we are not investing in new franchises. It's necessary to do new games, franchises and remakes. With remakes, we're trying to expand the outlook of that world. If you look at our profits, franchises are 60 percent of our business, while new IPs are 40 percent. There's a misconception that we rely only on Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, while these titles only make half of our business. It's just that people keep asking for new installments."

In addition, Wada also talks about downloadable content, the future of the retail business, Square Enix's position in the game center business, Taito (a Japanese arcade developer owned by Square Enix), and the company's future.

[ Notes: The original source is Japanese. See RPGFans.com and alternative sources for different English summaries. Translated quotes are lifted from Kotaku. ]

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hardmetal5987d ago

He said: "It seems that Sony isn't sure what it wants to do. Is it making high-end electronics or a game console for gamers? I want them to clearly define their console."

I say: It's both!

achira5987d ago

i think the same way. it can only be positive, if it is both.

WilliamRLBaker5987d ago

so....if they concentrate only on a high end electronic device *which its not* then a game machine falls by the way side....if they concentrate soley on a game machine then the (laugh) high end electronic device falls by the way side...

dhammalama5987d ago (Edited 5987d ago )

I agree with you on that. I disagree, however, that it is not a high end electronic device? How is it not?
- It has an advanced optical drive
- a cutting edge processor
- wireless connectivity
- full hdmi and 7.1 audio out
----------------- gigabit internet connectivity
----------------- a harddrive
----------------- and connectivity for virtually all types of memory cards and external storage.

So, uh, where is it that it falls short of being a high end device? Eh, willyboy?

Edit - I think it could be classified as a high end electronic gaming device with extensive multimedia features.

Bladestar5987d ago

It can only be good for Playstation fans... but not for 3rd party developers... you missed the entire point he was trying to make...
"The attachment rate for the Xbox 360 is much higher than for the Wii. People who buy the 360 really like games"... do you think 3rd party developers care or benefit from Sony trying to make a system that can do it all... or from Sony blu-ray business of selling movies? 3rd party developers making games only care and should care about how well their games sell... And when they don't let his comments confused you... the fact that he mentioned software attach rate the wii and the PS3 on the same paragraph is a fact that they are paying close attention to the software attach rate.... also, when he says, "(Xbox 360) is strictly for hardcore gamers."... Square for the most part only make hardcore games... what do you think Final Fantasy is? a casual game?

Also, don't think for a second that if Square jumps in... japan will not be forced to do the same... The PS3 life depends on 2 3rd party companies; and this is one of them.

Cyrus3655987d ago (Edited 5987d ago )

Yeah I'm suring there looking at attach Rate, but FF series usually sells the best in Japan, and whether you want to admit it or not. It won't come out on 360, cause frankly 500 K Total 360 sold in 2 years is not enough. Even if you think 360 will sell another 250 K in another year before the release of FFXIII. The only way this could ever happen, Msoft Cuts a HUGE check.

Hell I'm sure they are (Square-Enix) hoping that FFXIII or Versus, etc. sell in 1 week atleast 500K, considering PS3 version of Dragon Warrior 6 sold about 175 K in 1 week, and PES Sold in japan in 1 week about 150 K, and we all know FF series has a bigger following and demand.

There more likly to jump to Wii than they will on 360, if anything. But your right there looking at how well recent "Hot games" are selling on PS3 vs. IE how well Hot Shot Golf 5 sold in it's first week and to date, PES, etc. which has sold just as well as Mario Galaxy for exame, Yet Wii has 3 x the base units. And obviously has sold better than anything on 360 in japan.

Bombomb5982d ago (Edited 5982d ago )

has confused and Split the market, It has a game console competiting with the other markets it competes in.

-If you can get a PS3 why bye a Sony Blu-ray player?

-This leads to NON, I repeat NON gamer s buying the PS3 for other purposes.

-Then leads to the user-base being skewed and you wander why games do not sell well or have not.

-I bet you 20% of PS3 owners don't play much games. I have seen so many no gamers recommend the PS3 just for movies, it's insane.

Now if you buy a Wii or 360, while the 360 can do DVD movies you know it's games first then anything Extra MS throws at ya, Divx and such.

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Prismo_Fillusion5987d ago (Edited 5987d ago )

From the interview, it seems as if he's saying that if the path each system is taking doesn't change...they'll start to develop much more for the 360 and much less for the other systems.

The flaw with that is that I think many of the "hardcore" 360 owners aren't into JRPGs nearly as much as the "hardcore" PS3 owners. (hardcore in quotes, because I think the term is overused and meaningless in most cases)

Also, I'm sure the PS3 will sell many many more units by the time the SE games start coming out on the system. And hopefully Wii owners support SE by buying the new FF:CC game (I really think they made it just to test the Wii waters).

ceedubya95987d ago

Its all about the name. You stick an unproven RPG on the 360 or any platform for that matter, and yeah, they probably won't sell well. But if you stick a Final Fantasy out there, then people start looking. JRPGs aren't guaranteed to sell by the truck load. But Square-Enix is a well known name in the RPG world amongst hardcore gamers. You have to remember, there were actually people out there that had original xboxes that also had PS2s. So to say Xbox players aren't into JRPGs as much is a bold assumption. It could just be that in the past, there wasn't much quality in that area to choose from (if any).

PS3 Limps on and on5987d ago (Edited 5987d ago )

I think this was true before. But now Sony it getting their game on.

I look around and I see Warhawk expansion coming for PS3 in December, I see Unreal Tournamnent III bringing some seriously online play for PS3 in December.

Prices are getting better. I say the PS3 is a gaming machine. The PS3 knows what it wants to be now and 2008 will further prove it.

Are you gonna hold it against PS3 because it allows people to have high defintion playback? It it a high Defintion console, to have the best experience, HDTV is recommended.

I'm sorry but PS3 is headed in the right direction now. In a way they were almost lucky that they fell off their horse so early with horrible sales. Got them grounded back to reality.

ruibing5982d ago

To think a week ago, your attitude was like this towards the PS3.

gamesblow5987d ago

this is very old... He said the same thing back in Sep, right before TGS... so, either he's on repeat or this is old. Take your pick.

PS3 Limps on and on5987d ago

I've heard the exact same thing before. It's either an old interview or this dude feels really strongly about this and says it all the time.

Either way I think PS3 got the message.

ruibing5987d ago

He wants Square Enix as one of the top 3, it will be difficult with JRPG. I mean I love them to death, but friends of mine who are into DnD and western RPGs don't think as highly of them for some reason. They've tried to make shooters before with Dirge of Cerberus and it didn't play out so well.

I think they should concentrate on quality instead of a goal like this, or they'll soon forget where their roots are. I really will curse the day when they made a western RPG.

goldenxbox5987d ago

Japanese RPGs have effemenine males all the time, and weird schoolgirl ridden plots !!!

Blue Dragon was the best original JRPG I've played in a while with a story to match !!!!!

Western RPGs are still preferred much more, especially Fable !!!

Fable destroys Final Fantasy and kicks it twice over !!!!!!

You can do everything in Fable, you can run around down a linear path with guys who have leather fetish in Final Fantasy !!!

Your friends are smart people, they see the superiority of WRPG !!!!

That is the western based format, with the most WRPGs of all rather than a Japanese system crowded with JRPG !!!!!

And I still love Blue Dragon, but love my Sacred 2 even more !!!!!

power of Green 5987d ago (Edited 5987d ago )

Social gaming is key" its just not hardcore gamers its the world arcade scene thats very popular with harcore and casual social gamers alike(Lots of hybrid AAA's don't hurt either).

Square Enix needs games that are somewhat grounded(western taste) and they need to show the West they want to please us instead of making half assed attempts for the west. Support Western markets even on western hardware thats the first step I'v read something like this before they wan't to expand.

Their Japanese arrogance is greater than their innovation(no ones going to buy games on pedigree and legacy anymore).

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Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX

This could be fun as they make great tables. Go big or go extinct. Prime your senses for a neural handshake and step into the cockpit of a Jaeger. It is on you to cancel the apocalypse when Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX on May 16.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 1h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning774h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga12h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218311h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan6h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus235h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv724h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10115h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos14h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-4h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac13h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10113h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic11h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein1d ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno20h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k419h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson18h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu19h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson18h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -