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3 Days After Wii U’s Announcement, It’s Future Already Looks Bleak

NightmareMode delves into why the Wii U's future doesn't look too bright. From a single Wii U controller per console to the system's proprietary disk format, we break down all the system's flaws and ponder the questions Nintendo has left us with.

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iamnsuperman4718d ago

The biggest concern Nintendo has is are the third party support going to use the hardware in a different way. With a lot of people owning either a PS3 or 360 the third part support would need to have enough level of functionality (especially in the first two years) to make people instead of picking up a £40 spending money on this. I know exclusives sell systems but is Mario, Zelda and other going to do it. They have the functionality but in early console selling period third party games matter (not going to release all exclusives day 1)

darthv724718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

its would be easy to make something just like the other guy but this isnt how nintendo works. Never has.

It is almost like we are expecting the systems to be the same like when you go to buy a tv or movie player. You have all these brands and you know the basic functionality is the same so you base your choice on name or experience or features.

Playing a game should not be about anything other than putting the game in and pressing start. Nintendo went back to that simplicity with the wii but changed the manner in which we played with their controller.

Keep in mind their controller was the focal point for the wii. So now the controller again is the focal point for the wii-u. As if they upgraded the box like any other company that comes out with the next version. It playes the same as before but now it has a new remote to learn all the stuff it can do.

Wii-u is the evolutionary hop as opposed to the revolutionary jump when it comes to the actual console. Every system is basically viewed like that but its controller is the revolutionary jump like the wii-mote was when it came out.

theaceh4717d ago

Man... the wii-mote was as revolutionary as the lambada or the macarena.

Lyle914718d ago

Why would the disc format make the future not look too bright? It's the exact same as a Blu-ray, except this way they don't support their rival.

The one good point he made is that tech demos don't support consoles. A lot of actual games are now being shown though, so that problem is going away. I'm also sure that tons of more games will be shown at the Tokyo Game Show and next years E3.

Kanji084718d ago

The lack of blu-ray means it's not going to play disc-based HD movies. More and more, game consoles are expanding to entertainment hubs. And while online streaming is definitely the future, right now blu-ray is a big deal. To skip over it seems like a pretty significant oversight.

On it's own, it's not that big of a deal. Obviously the 360 manages to survive even on the archaic DVD format. However, as I'm sure some 360 owners would like the system to support blu-ray, so too will people want blu-ray on the Wii U. Is it a fatal flaw? No. Does it matter when it's another fault in a long list of faults the console seems to have? Yes.

Lyle914718d ago

Well I don't consider the Wii U to have a long list of faults, especially considering we don't know anything about it (which may be it's only real fault), I do see where you are coming from. To me though, Blu-ray will never be as big as DVD was, and online streaming will probably do very well on the Wii U.

Active Reload4718d ago

" And while online streaming is definitely the future, right now blu-ray is a big deal. To skip over it seems like a pretty significant oversight."

Whoever thinks this is some type of fanboy. Anyway, they don't have to have games on a Blu-ray disc, obviously. And I'm rather sure theres some research that would probably say streaming is more popular than Blu-ray. Having a Blu-ray drive for movies is another solution, if they so choose, and they haven't spilled the beans on what all is exactly under the hood.

darthv724718d ago

movie playback is not a concern for nintendo. Hasnt been for some time. The only system to get "official" movie playback via disc was made by panasonic and it was a gamecube hybrid.

Nintendo is all about games and if the disc they chose was the failed HDDVD then so be it. I always thought the format was suitable for games when it lost to bluray. MS could have used it for that from then on but stuck to their guns and has now revised their dvd discs to suit games more so than movies.

Why we are under this idea that every system has to have the same or similar features is beyond me. Looking back, systems all played carts and they were of different capacities and shapes and sizes. That didnt stop developers from making games for those platforms.

I mean really, game data is game data and if nintendo used a 5.25 floppy for their system is fine with me so long as the developers are able to use it for their intended purpose. And by that, I am referring to the type of medium not the capacity.

D2K4718d ago

The key word is 'right now' BLU-RAY is a big deal. There was a time that DVD was a 'big deal'. There was a time that CD was a 'big deal'. The problem, not being able to watch a movie on a video game system has never had anything to do with success or failure. And please do not bring up the Dreamcast because not having DVD is not what killed it. The fact that people bootlegged the bejabbers out of the Dreamcast is what killed it.

The Nintendo Wii without DVD or BLU-RAY capability at all has sold 86 million units. The PS3 with BLU-RAY capability has sold 50 million copies.

Having the ability to watch a disc-media in no way, shape, or form has anything to do with a console's success as the proof is in the numbers. As a matter of fact, the 360 was behind the PS3 in overall console sales and with the advent of the Kinect (a VIDEO GAME feature) it surpassed Sony.

With the explosion of Netflix, Pandora, Hulu Plus, and other movie services who needs a BLU-RAY player IN the video game console? I don't buy a game console to watch movies. I buy a video game console to.......

Wait for it.....WAIT FOR IT.....

PLAY VIDEOS GAMES!!!!!! What a novel idea eh? Having BLU-RAY is convenience, not a necessity. Anyone who thinks not having BLU-RAY in the Wii U will have any part of it failing is either a fanboy whom want it to fail and is grasping at straws to find something to back up their biased opinions, or an COMPLETE idiot. Period.

Kanji084718d ago

@Darthv72: Movie playback might not be a concern for Nintendo, but it's definitely a concern for the growing population who expect their game consoles to be more than devices to play games on.

@D2K: While DVD playback may not have killed the Dreamcast, it definitely lead to the initial success of the PS2. Just like the PS3 led to Blu-Ray winning the format wars. You are a fool if you think these two don't go hand in hand.

And while you might buy game consoles only to play games and nothing else, I'd say the average 360 player who spends 40%+ of their time watching shows and movies disagrees with you. Or the 36% of Netflix users who watch content on their PS3s.

Again, is not having Blu-Ray a massive, catastrophic failure for the system? No. Is it a flaw nonetheless? Yes. Simple as that.

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JsonHenry4718d ago

The biggest fault so far is they didn't mention anything other than a new disc type for the actual console itself. This has to be one of the most vague product unveilings in history.

Lyle914718d ago

With the Wii at least they showed some actual gameplay from launch games. Now we'll probably have to wait until the TGS for that. Hopefully someone can dissect this baby and give us some real details.

D2K4718d ago

Uh no. Actually when the Revolution was first unveiled at E3 2005 they did NOT show any games or describe the Wii-Remote AT ALL. It wasn't until TGS 2005 that they unveiled the Wii-Remote, and it wasn't until E3 2006 that we saw the games in action.

So actually, people got more this time around when Nintendo first unveiled their new system than when they did at E3 2005.

Peaceful_Jelly4718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

we know that the Wii U will only support 1 Tablet per console, it will not have a centric online service and it will cost more than $250... Things aren't looking so bright if you ask me. For the time this console is out the PS3 and X360 will be cheaper, offering better online service and wider game catalogs.

And from a multiplat perspective devs are not going to go out of their way to make one version superior than the other even if the Wii U turns out to be more powerful than the other consoles. Developers always try to make all versions equal so people doesn't feel like they are paying $60 for an inferior version.

Mini Mario4718d ago (Edited 4718d ago )

"we know that the Wii U will only support 1 Tablet per console"

I actually thought i read it supports two and and possibley 3ds's (in other articles).....unless i read wrong?

NESpower4718d ago

FUD...nothing to see here.

8bit_Nes_Rambo4718d ago

Agreed. Nintendo is doomed ver 2.0. Remember how they said the Wii would fail? Yeah, how did that one work out? Next to nothing is known about Wii U, it's still an unkown quantity and way too early to be passing judgement on it's success or failure.

VampiricDragon4718d ago

The future is as bright as ever.

This is just another troll who doubts nintendo. Then nintendo burns them

and then they come out with an article why its succeeding.

Not to mention its only 1 wii u controller for NOW. The system doesnt come out for over a year. They will figure it out

Kanji084718d ago

"Already, I know a lot of you will say it’s far too early to make the bold claim my headline infers. “The console isn’t coming out for another year at the earliest. A lot can change in 12-18 months.” you will say, and I agree. What we know about the Wii U now is not indicative of how the system will fare when it’s finally released. However, that doesn’t mean we should ignore what we currently know about the system until it’s launch."

Way to read the article there, big guy. Oh wait, no. You didn't. You took one glance at the headline, your fanboy mentality kicked in, and you decided to rant about how any negative remarks about Nintendo must be a troll. The piece is concise and well thought out. It addresses that there are things we don't know about the console or things that could possibly change in the future. Perhaps a little reading will suit you well in the future.

Butt0n_m4sher4718d ago

well said my friend, few people in this thread seem to have read the article which brings up valid and developed opinions.

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno6d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."