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Microsoft Has Now Spent Over Ten Years In The Console Business

Kotaku: Time flies, doesn't it? One day, you're thinking only Sega and Nintendo are capable of building quality, successful gaming hardware. The next, you wake up to find that Microsoft is building a video games console.

Warprincess1164794d ago

Ugh i wished they never joined it.

M4ndat0ry_1nstall4794d ago (Edited 4794d ago )

Me too, competition is always bad.

Edit @mezzo: I think you missed the sarcasm :(

-Mezzo-4794d ago (Edited 4794d ago )

Competition is never bad, Competition is the only reason we get AAAE games on each consoles, the eagerness to outdo you opponent has always been good for Gamers.

@M4ndat0ry_1nstall -- i guess i did :D

LOGICWINS4794d ago (Edited 4794d ago )

@Warprincess116- If it wasn't for the 360's early success, the PS3 would be still be $400 and PSN would have half the features it has now. I hope your being sarcastic, because ud have to be a COMPLETE fool not too see that it was the 360 that lit the fire under Sony ass to improve and get rid of their "ull want to get two jobs to buy a PS3" elitist mentality.

As a PS3 gamer, I'm happy Microsoft brought out the best in Sony.

Man, Xbox Live ALONE did sooo much for online console gaming. Such an ignorant comment dude. If your being serious, PLEASE go educate yourself.

Munky4794d ago

@LOGICWINS

bub + for you man, refreshing to read a impartial comment on here.

ASSASSYN 36o4794d ago

Defintely bubbles to logicwin. Well said.

Godmars2904794d ago

MS brought the wrong kind of competition as far as I'm concerned. Were more focused on undermining the competition than doing better. Are certainly in arguably worse shape as a game publisher than when they first entered into consoles.

darthv724794d ago

That statement takes me back to 1995. When people felt the same way towards Sony and the Playstation.

If anything, a newcomer brings with them the desire for the others to be better than they are.

BrutallyBlunt4794d ago

As much as I like them being here I would not like them to have control of the market. Look at Sony and how well they have done in the past to being overly arrogant this generation. Nintendo and Microsoft managed to keep them in check. Now the Platstation 3 offers great value and Sony has been very aggressive in their own 1st party studios.

Blad3star4794d ago (Edited 4794d ago )

@Godmars - "MS brought the wrong kind of competition as far as I'm concerned"

Your either too young or just dont want to remember how Sony use to bully Sega and Nintendo with lame ads (Crash Bandicott) also you know that the main reason why the Dream Cast is dead is because Sony (PSP 2) kept alot of 3rd party developers under there pocket that gen.

If your not going to congradulate MS for lasting this long as many thought they would follow the Sega fate, THEN GTFO YOU TROLL.

cliffbo4794d ago (Edited 4794d ago )

@LOGICWINS

you are an idiot long before MS joined the console war sony had the ps1 which came out in the uk for £340 as i got one day 1 and that is what it was sold for and nobody complained about the price back then.

all consoles come out expensive to begin with and sony's strategy has always been the same lower price gradually over time nobody needed to light a match under anyone's arse.

this has always been there strategy if anything it is the reverse and that is why the xbox 360 has continued to lower there price in an attempt to desperate attempt to combat the ps3's sales.

if they had not lowered there prices the argument of the 360 beating the ps3 would not exist which is why ps3 sales continue to catch up to the 360 year on year.

and as for the psn it would of had all of the features it has now if you had actually read your history you would of known that sony had been talking about these features since the ps2 days it has just taken them this long to implement them because in Europe the internet was not fast enough to support such a service that is why the xbox live service didn't become what it was until the 360 came about.

in summery it is you who needs to educate yourself and read up on your history instead of making rash judgements.

wiki is your friend

incidentally the 3DO was $700 when it released and no one complained

NiKK_4194794d ago

i'm glad they joined for the competition, because sony and nintendo only on the market this gen...wouldn't be very good competition-wise, but that doesn't mean i'm every going to buy a 360, i don't like microsoft with consoles, but i do love windows 7 and windows phone 7

Godmars2904794d ago

I'm old enough - far older than I wish to admit - to know that Sega screwed their own pouche through mismanagement. Hinting at the Dreamcast when the Saturn hadn't even been released, then just dumping that console on the market. That's why they lost support.

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Halo_Reach4794d ago

Nice Work MS , started from 0 and now on TOP!

BK-2014794d ago

Nintendo is on top sales wise, Sony is on top quality wise and MS is on top socially.

theonlylolking4794d ago

I still dont see how much more social M$ is then nintendo and sony.

Kalowest4794d ago

Im still surprised they lasted this long.

aviator1894794d ago

Same here. I thought they'd drop after the first xbox managed lackluster sales, but they've really managed to get it together since then.

Lamarthedancer4794d ago (Edited 4794d ago )

I'm more surprised that people still have faith in them to deliver in 2011 everytime they open their mouth and say something like "2011 for the 360 is amazing".

The_Ultimate_Guy4794d ago

Far worse was Sony charging $600 at launch for a PS3 and people were buying them when there were no games until 3 years later.

Xfanboy4794d ago

I have a feeling Xbox 720 & PC could be linked in someway with windows! But Sony will do it also in other way!

New consoles need to ship next year!!

Arknight4794d ago

I sure hope not? Why would you want to spend more on new consoles when they are still working on maxing out the ones we have now?......well, one of them, at least.

MajestieBeast4794d ago

One day, you're thinking only Sega and Nintendo are capable of building quality, successful gaming hardware. The next, you wake up to find that Microsoft is building a video games console.

Ahh no mention of sony i see what you did there Kotaku.

Arknight4794d ago

At least they didn't include Microsoft in a sentence with those that build quality, successful hardware.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7212h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

purple1011h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac45m ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad30m ago(Edited 29m ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110m ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 9h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 6h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 4h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN21h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo22h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies18h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 6h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic16h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9016h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 8h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 8h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 5h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 7h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 6h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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