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Kinect - What Microsoft's Doing Right

Dick Ward writes: "It’s easy to bag on Microsoft for Kinect – formerly “Project Natal.” It’s a popular whipping boy, and with plenty of good reason. It’s about as far from traditional gaming as you can get, it’s Microsoft’s attempt to jump on the Wii bandwagon, it’s not for hardcore games and, of course, you’ll look really stupid playing it.

But we know all that. Rather than beating a horse that’s been presumed dead even before leaving the stable, let’s take a look at what Microsoft’s doing right with its motion control system."

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B-Real2065080d ago

wait till gamescon! then it's on!

GWAVE5080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

But Microsoft said they were bring the big guns to E3 this year. So, you're going to simply believe them again?

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Exactly. No one likes to wait. Especially if they were told they wouldn't have to wait...

D4RkNIKON5080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

Wait till E3, Wait till Gamescon, Wait till Release, Wait till the devs get used to it
.... patiently waiting is fun. I just don't see why core gamers defend this crap because it is obviously not meant for them.

HolyOrangeCows5080d ago

"I just don't see why core gamers defend this crap because it is obviously not meant for them"

Over 40 million people, that includes myself, who didn't buy the 360 for Kinect have full right to be annoyed that Microsoft is diverting most of its attention to Kinect and non-gaming features.

Parapraxis5080d ago

40 million plus 1.
Got an Elite today.
Guess what, Kinect is STILL sh*t.

B-Real2065079d ago

Whatever I was being sarcastic, jeez.

Mista T5080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

Kinect, what is it good for, absolutely nothing!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Gladiator75080d ago

Microsoft is going to be the next Nintendo, but with worse casual games.
hate when they ignoring the hardcores gamers, i mean they just giving more halo,gears of war,fable games. they giving so much limited experiences.

KILLERAPP5080d ago

“ If you’re looking for a four-player experience on the Wii, that’s $40 for each controller and $20 for each nunchuck, plus the cost of the Wii, which comes to $440. The PS3 Move costs even more.”… Show me a game on Natal that comes out of this year’s E3 press conference that four players play together at the same time, you can’t because I haven’t seen one, natal is mostly two player at the same time, cause you will have a huge room to have 4 people playing at the same time and I don’t see it maybe in a few games but you can’t compare the move or the wii to it and two player playing at the same time with the move or wii cost about the same as natal so you lose your point…

-Alpha5080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

I think that that argument is decent. The problem though, is that when it comes to local multiplayer, I don't buy all the controllers. I have friends who bring over their own controllers, and I assume that if they buy the Move they'll do the same for that.

We additionally still have no price for Kinect and the fact still remains that Move is a better device. MS may have done local multiplayer right by endorsing family gaming, but it just doesn't interest me.

MS is doing all the right things for Kinect from a business sense. They have a core audience and know the core audience likes the Halo, CoD, etc.

They have that audience, and now want to reach out with Kinect. However, the obstacle for success still remains:

-No price tag
-No guarantee casuals will buy it (they may very well buy it, I'm sure they'll prefer it over Move anyway)
-The Wii is still a strong device for casual gamers so the competition is there

Still, MS could succeed with Kinect, but it will be for a new audience. We already have it (apparently) outselling Move on Amazon, which was totally expected. I mean, it's a device that is aimed at a bigger, broader audience and it's advertised as a social tool to chat with friends, watch movies, and play family games.

outrageous5080d ago

M$ has gone about this the right way. They know who their Kinect demographic is and are moving fast in that direction. Many developers are working on apps. It's only been around a year and are coming to grips with the tech.

Why announce a price when the device is not out for several months. It was a shrewd business decision and and it worked. Sony has said $399 for a bundle. No Wii consumers are gonna buy that and now it's generated a " it's like the Wii but costs twice as much backlash " argument.

The your shape Ubisoft fitness app is gonna be a big Kinect mover. The dance game promises crazy dance routines from great, well known instructors to some of the best music around. It's made by MTV. Kinectanimals and sports will keep kids entertain for hours. C'mon...did you see her play hide N seek, having 2 children my self I'll tell you that game is a winner...BIG, BIG sellers, more importantly, it will move 360's. that is the whole idea.

Check out this video of the Ubisoft presentation. My wife said she wanted it right away...look how precise and accurate it measures the lady...the menu's, the options...Wii Fit outsold MW2, this could be HUGE...no controller, just a wave of your hand. This is just the first gen for Kinect. The apps will get better. GDC will be awesome this year for all.

hazeblaze5080d ago

The thing about Kinect is that I haven't seen any games that I would enjoy playing with just one player, yet alone two or more! The technology has potential but it doesn't seem like developers have wrapped their head around it yet. And playing games without anything in my hands, or physical feedback, just is not appealing.

DA_SHREDDER5080d ago

The only thing Microsoft has ever done right was created Xbox live. Other than that its just a box, a remote, and 3rd party handler.

Megahurtz19865080d ago

At GamesCon they will be unveiling Kinectamils 2 featuring Snikcers the baby Wolf

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7720h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE17h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware73016h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor13h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos13h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor13h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos13h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 15h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 15h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 19h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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