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Overlord dev: 360 to Wii ports don't work

OXM UK reports that Triumph Studios says Wii's last-gen technology is the reason direct Xbox 360 ports won't work for Nintendo's console.

Lennart Sas, Creative Director at Triumph Studios, tells OXM that "the weakness for the Wii is the graphical and processing technology, which is last-gen... so you have to custom tailor your game to best use of the Wii's strengths, which is the Wii-mote. I don't think you can do that with a direct port."

madmonkey05419d ago

isn't that obvious?
Maybe we will see a Wii HD sometime in the future.

SpoonyRedMage5419d ago

Yup, that's pretty obvious. Overlord seems like it could work really well though and graphically it looks quite nice on the Wii but it seems to be pretty bad judging from reviews.

N4g_null5418d ago

I'm thinking that most people do not remember arcades and the nes. If you have ever played the arcade version of ninja gaiden then you know how good the first few stages where. Yet the rest of the stages where pretty forgettable. Yet when they ported the game to the nes is was a master piece that even the 3d version today can not top story telling wise.

Maybe part of the reason why they can not port their games is because video games have been replaced with 3d games. We really need a ne3w word for that. Video games do not automatically have to mean a 3d game. 3d always mean free roaming and seriously we do not have the true power for that right now. The idea of a sand box game is very unfocused right now.

Anyway focusing on the Wii mote is part of it but you need to leverage your art and your game play.

Gr815419d ago

"the weakness for the Wii is the graphical and processing technology, which is last-gen... so you have to custom tailor your game to best use of the Wii's strengths, which is the Wii-mote. I don't think you can do that with a direct port."

What he considers a weakness I see as a strength for the Wii.

PirateThom5419d ago

You see low graphical and processing technology as a strength?

:-/

SpoonyRedMage5419d ago

Well it kind of is and isn't at the same time because with it's low cost and low demand for graphic sand stuff it's attracted smaller devs, most obviously High Voltage who said they would be fine with making games for the HD consoles but they can't afford it. It's also got some bigger companies looking at it as well and whilst it's mostly shovelware there are a few gems that wouldn't exist otherwise.

It seems to be both a weakness and a strength.

ChickeyCantor5419d ago

Not just that, it goes back to the nes/sega era where developers needed to be creative to make it all work. Not just in art-style but also in the way in making their engines more efficient.

Of course if we are talking about higher production games.

Gr815419d ago (Edited 5419d ago )

I wasn't looking at it in simple terms of graphical output. But more in lines with the business perspective of what was said. "Games tailor made for Wii" is just fancy talk for developing from the ground up exclusively for the system.

Exclusives are what make a system shine, and distinguish one platform from the next. You ever wonder why people regard PS360 as HD twins? because neither really has any notable exclusives beyond Halo and what, LBP? Even MG is now multiplatform as is FF.

HD consoles are sharing everything with themselves and PC's. The thing is the PC has the games like Dead Space and Bioshock and Lost Planet etc. And guess what? they look and play better on the PC!

Wii is easily distinguishable from the PC and this is because Nintendo's aim was not to mimic PC gaming which was MS intent with Sony following suit.

This is where Nintendo has won. As Spoony has said it has kept costs down, and ironically it is in the Wii's graphical limitations work in its favor. And has Sidar pointed out the game has to rely on content and gameplay to sell, not shiny special effects. The Wii is actually a throwback to the old school console gaming.

poopface15419d ago (Edited 5419d ago )

sorry but only RTS, FPS, and mmorpgs "play better" on PC. Lots of games CAN look better on pc, but Id rather play other types of games(dead space, AC, SF, GTA 4) on consoles; on a big TV with a controller.

The one thing pcs dont have for FPS is analogue movement, but most people dont even know what that is or how it could help them in FPS.

Also "old school" games were actually challenging, games on wii are so easy and simple that they are starting to play themselvs.

Gr815419d ago (Edited 5419d ago )

You must be new to gaming. At least your name matches your posts ;) Aren't the HD consoles primarily made up of FPS'? Which since you have even admitted play better on PC, pretty much proves my point no?

Did you beat Prime 3 on Hypermode w/ 100% pickups? Did you get 9,999pts online in MKWii? 242 stars in Galaxy? Prime 3 alone is longer than 3 HD games combined on a first play through.

N4g_null5418d ago

PirateThom low graphical detail is a strength. It is a great place for talented people to shine. If you look back I liked most of the console ports better than the arcade games in most cases. The games had to be totally reworked and put up against stiffer competition rather than quarter stealing.

Because of this flaw we can have fully render 2d games like demon blade and FPS that focus on different control set ups because they don't blow their budgets on graphics only. Seriously I would love to see team ninja make a ninja gaiden 16 bit version for wiiware or a full game to take on demon blade! I would love to see a real strider game like the nes version yet with the arcade graphics style!

console gaming is about a happy medium not all out to one side. If you will notice most HD gamer will not even touch 2d games unless they are under $20 now. Now when I go see a movie do I expect to pay less for animation or live action? Nope... catering to a few is killing games for us all.

Seriously they most hyped games right now in the HD realm are not even interesting to me. They lack visual rules and a clear challenge in most cases. They are very ADHD like. I don't like that.

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JCDenton5419d ago

"the weakness for the Wii is the graphical and processing technology, which is last-gen... so you have to custom tailor your game to best use of the Wii's strengths, which is the Wii-mote. I don't think you can do that with a direct port."

Well, no sh1t, Sherlock! ;)

badz1495419d ago

the 360 (and PS3 for that matter) can do downscaling to 480p but the Wii does not have that very capability! it can't process HD materials thus only outputting 480p max!

Gr815419d ago

I didn't know there were Wii games "HD console only" owners were interested in? Also if they are chances are they have already bought a Wii or are considering it. I mean really the Library is really starting to get fleshed out.

Look at sales; HD hasn't mattered thus far, why would it suddenly make a difference now?

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies10h ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken5h ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing6921h ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker21h ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing6920h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt8h ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken5h ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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6 Fun Games Where You Actually Play As The Bad Guy

While the mainstream media always sees things turning in favor of the hero, here are 6 games that own being a bad guy.

Profchaos1d 3h ago

Pretty much all of these games listed are based around a morality system you don't have to be bad and you don't have to be good.

It seems to have left out some real amazing games like red dead redemption 1/2,ass effect and true crime la/ny

Tacoboto1d 2h ago

Armored Core VI?

Ok, I'm really missing something here. Just beat chapter 3 earlier this evening, unlocked A-rank Arena fights. I'm not seeing or sensing any branching paths or morality system and I've done every side mission and arena fight available to me up to that fight.

Is something big coming soon to branch the story?

banger881d 1h ago

No mention of Grand Theft Auto? Saints Row (original trilogy), Manhunt? Also The Suffering (depending on the ending you get).

ChasterMies15h ago

Trevor in GTA 6 is a sadist and psychopath who dabbles in cannibalism. Should be top of the list. These game “news” sites should hire people that know games.

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Chard1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I never got around to mass effect - I’m skeptical that it would hold up if I were to try it now

Furesis1d 19h ago

I would say it does. The combat is a bit shit for todays standards but everything else is great.

anast1d 17h ago

It's worth a play through today.

gold_drake1d 11h ago

the first one is abit the odd one out but after u finished it, believe it it gets tremendously better and better