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3 Reasons Why Microsoft Will Prevail In 2009

Excluding Nintendo, Microsoft and clearly won 2008 by delivering Blockbusters like Gears of War 2 and Fable 2. But how can continue this success?

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panasonic235629d ago

i agree ms is gonna surpise people in 09 they won 08 well sales wise hardware wise wii is the king

Mwaan5629d ago

I hope they don't wait till E3 to reveal their fall lineup. Next year will be fine for Microsoft, I mean, they do have a new Halo game coming out. I just want a new Killer Instinct.

Montrealien5629d ago (Edited 5629d ago )

3 Reasons why New 4 gamers Should have an editorial section or be renamed to Editorials for Gamers...

-Blog post are posted as Articles.

-Opinions is not news.

-Editorials are not on the Front pages of News papers for nothing.

chasegamez5629d ago

arcade will be $99 by christmas

ericnellie5629d ago

MS never discusses the next year of games during the holiday season. They want buyers to be focused on the "now". They did the same thing last year.
I'm sure they will have tons of new announcements soon;)

The Killer5629d ago (Edited 5629d ago )

"Microsoft and clearly won 2008 by delivering Blockbusters like Gears of War 2 and Fable 2"

only??

ps3 have

1: MGS4
2: LBP
3: R2
4: VK(sega RPG)
5: blue ray player

so why not ps3 won 2008? who sold more in 2008?? i dare any one will say 360 and provide me proof!

i really will feel petty for MS when ps3 goes to 299$ early next year!! who will save them?? what r they going to do to counter KillZone 2??

Graphics Whore5629d ago

I'm not a fanboy by any means but the Xbox 360 did piss poor this year with quality titles, it might have sold more consoles but honestly it was a big wait till November for Gears of War 2.

Irving5629d ago

The linked article is titled as "3 Reasons Why Xbox will loose 2009". I don't know how stuff like this gets approved?

madmonkey05629d ago

this is unjustified
Here are the sales figures of 2008 (according to vgcharts)(which some people think overestimate 360 and underestimate ps3)

Console PS3
Total 8,709,255

Console X360
Total 8,369,774
(Ps sorry if this comes through twice browser crashed first time i tried)

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iMarcus5629d ago

Its all about E3 09 I believe, at least in my books.

I support my 360, but any person can see that the PS3 has some great exclusives in 09, unless your just an ignorant idiot.

Another One5629d ago (Edited 5629d ago )

mean to hit reply.

ceedubya95629d ago

But its obvious that exclusives aren't as important as people seem to think. Its good to have them, but despite the quality of most of Sony's exclusive games, they are hardly making a dent for the hardware/software sales for the PS3.

You have to give Sony credit. Their first party games now are miles ahead of the stuff they had in the early PS1 days. But gamers just don't really seem to care about them, or are just slowly buying them over a long period.

iMarcus5629d ago

True, but the only games I care about are the ones I care about, and quite a few of the Ps3 09 titles look promising to me. Regardless, I still see Alan Wake and Mafia 2 as my most anticipated titles, the latter being multi-plat of course.

panasonic235629d ago

can't wait ms gonna is prevail and do the same thing this year with awesome games.Incoming sonylocust five o clock ms games can't compare with blah blah blah man ms is gonna own 09 just like the did this year.

iMarcus5629d ago

Was it really necessary to post in Gamer and Open Zone?

And dude, I support my 360, but 09 doesn't look that great so far. I hate halo so I don't give a damn about that. The only exclusive I'm looking forward to is Alan Wake.

InMyOpinion5629d ago

I don't like crystal balling like this. They don't know more than the rest of us. Just wait and see what happens.

mesh15629d ago

i love microsfot stratigy on reelaseing games make suprise announcements leading to the game being released in the same year that what i love about ms they annouce games 6 months later the game is relased .

air15629d ago

sure the ps3 has great games we all know that..

the problem is that these great games dont go any farther then the store shelf..

iMarcus5629d ago (Edited 5629d ago )

And?

Sales have nothing to do with how good a game is, It's an irrelevant factor, only relevant when speaking in terms of sequels and whatnot.

I don't care if Max Payne 2 on PC didn't sell that well, the game was still awesome regardless.

ceedubya95629d ago

as you said, if first game doesn't sell too well, then a sequel for the great game won't come out. Its important that Games like LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance (plus others) sell well. Otherwise they will be forgotten, missed opportunities.

Many promising franchises have gone missing due to poor sales. This is why we probably won't see a sequel for Psychonauts. Good games need to sell. And whether its due to advertising or whatever, someone needs to do something to get these things out in the hands and minds of gamers.

iMarcus5629d ago

I understand what you mean, But I'm sick of this new mindset about how if a game doesn't sell well people start calling it a flop.

perhaps a flop regarding its sales, but the games are not.

Ah well, don't let the fanboys get to you.

ceedubya95629d ago

that the gaming public that we can't get through to (the fankids) are long gone, and hard as it is to do, we must try to ignore them. We all have a little bit of fanboy in us, but there are just some that take it to unreasonable extremes.

iMarcus5629d ago (Edited 5629d ago )

Well said.

I come close to replying to some of the fanboys in Open zone, but when I think about it I don't want to put myself through it because each of them is a stubborn bastard who won't listen to reason.

Glad to see there is some intelligent people here, bubbles.

Aclay5629d ago

"sure the ps3 has great games we all know that..

the problem is that these great games dont go any farther then the store shelf.. "

Honestly to me, it really doesn't matter how fast the games sell on the PS3, as long as the PS3 has a continuous stream of quality exclusives, that's all that matters to me.

The PS3 has plenty a couple of system sellers for 2009, and I'm confident that games like Killzone 2, Final Fantasy XIII in Japan, and Gran Turismo 5 in Europe and Japan will move some serious PS3 hardware. I'm not sure if God of War 3 will move systems or not, but even if it doesn't God of War 3 is a highly anticipated game and it's a very strong title.

Right now at this point, I really don't forsee that many Xbox 360 system sellers because Microsoft has already released Halo 3 and Gears 1 and 2. Sony on the other hand has just released several of the games in their main catalog. I don't see Halo Wars or Halo 3 Recon really being a system seller because Halo fans already have Xbox 360's, GTA4's release didn't really move significant systems for either the PS3 or 360 in April and I highly doubt that GTA4 DLC will move 360 hardware.

If Mass Effect 2 doesn't come to the PS3, then I think that it will be a huge game for the 360 in 09', and the same thing goes for Splinter Cell Conviction and Alan Wake if they both come out in 2009, but other than that, that's pretty much the strongest potential games that the 360 has for 2009 to me.

CrazzyMan5629d ago (Edited 5629d ago )

Uncharted started with ~200k first week, and NOW in it`s 1st year - over 2 mln. copies sold. =)

Motorstorm: Pacific Rift - started with average sales first week(since many games were released in that period), yet in 5 weeks already passed 1 mln. copies.
http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

Sircolby455629d ago

And Gears passed them both in under a month... =0

CrazzyMan5629d ago (Edited 5629d ago )

1. That fact doesn`t ruin my GAMEPLAY.
2. 1 game cheaper to buy than 2, and motorstorm did 1 mln. also in 1 month, though this game is NOT a TPS. =)
3. PS3 owners had more AA(80-95% on GR) exclusives(Resistance 2, Motorstorm: PR, LBP, Valkyria Chronicles, Naruto:UNS) available to buy this Autumn, then x360 owners.

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Xbox Has No Idea What They're Doing, and I'm Not Sure They Ever Did

Nirav from GL writes: "If the makers of a GOTY competitor that outdid sales and Game Pass expectations and owned by the richest company in the world cannot stay open - what hope is there for everyone else?"

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Christopher2h ago

***If the makers of a GOTY competitor that outdid sales and Game Pass expectations and owned by the richest company in the world cannot stay open - what hope is there for everyone else?***

None if you stay in an arena of corporate driven metrics. And this is what happens when you allow publishers to buy up massive amounts of studios and IPs. There's only so much internal competition and the focus in the end will remain on those who look best on a spreadsheet.

Players can be so driven by what is best for them and only see what is put right in front of them. But that's not what is best for them. They are being lied to constantly, as seen by Microsoft's ridiculous praise for Hi-Fi Rush and Phil's lies about Redfall prior to release and how big of a supporter of both studios he has been. But, instead of thinking "wait, this corporation wants me to think this way, should I be listening to them and believing them?" players eat it up and go "OMG, did you hear what they said! They're just like us and they know what's best for the industry."

And because of this single-mindedness of the majority of gamers, we are where we are now. Massive layoffs. Massive studio closures. Games that we were told were representative of the core values of said corporations shelved and studios behind them shuttered. The truth is coming to bear because the truth all along was only what the numbers in an excel spreadsheet told the corporate suits.

If you truly want what is best for the industry, what is best for developers, then you need to support Indie games, support developers that maintain control over their IPs and direction, support boutique publishers who only exist to help Indies make it out the door and don't own the IP. Stop supporting major corporations with your money or you devotion. Stop playing their games, and I don't mean video games, but their marketing, their double speak, their guy without a tie who says things you want to hear PR, their future of video gaming concepts as if we were hurting for new ways to play games other than installing/downloading and playing them, and especially any slogan from them that gives the impression that they are for you, the consumer. They are not. You're merely a value on a spreadsheet.

Christopher1h ago

Sure, I'm the one drinking the koolaid. Keep believing in the corporations. They definitely have your best interests in mind. All hail the Big Green, For You Blue, and Nostalgia Red! All praise big corporations buying up other publishers. All praise the inevitable spreadsheet adjustments. For greed, not the players.

Tody_ZA4m ago

This should not be surprising to any of you. We have been saying for MONTHS that Game Pass is not sustainable and that these acquisitions will come at a massive cost to the industry. People refused to grasp the difference between buying and investing in a developer like Insomniac or Housemarque, and buying the entire publisher. People refused to accept that spending billions to acquire the biggest publishers in gaming means you have to RECOUP those costs, and you aren't going to do it without consolidation, focusing on core IP that sells, creating revenue streams via ownership and releasing on other platforms, and closing down studios that are superfluous to the budget requirements. You will not recoup those costs by investing in risky new IP or creative new games and studios.

No, people cheered Microsoft on like they were delivering GOTY titles to their door and pouring money into the industry to grow Indies and triple A projects.

You are getting what you deserve. You take the consequences of the practices you supported.

Layoffs happen. Some games don't succeed. Everyone has seen it happen. Happens even to the winners.

This, however, is goddamn shambolic and if you can't see it now then there's no helping you and you should keep enjoying the "value" of Game Pass while contributing nothing to this industry.

I've never seen the developer of one of the best games of the year get axed before.

Ninja Theory is next after Hellblade 2, I can see them going independent again. There's more to come from MS.

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It’s too late for Xbox to control the narrative after studio closures

The latest round of Xbox studio closures has further revealed Microsoft’s inability to be proactive and responsive in its communication.

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Lightning773h ago

There's a pattern. It seems like in May every year there's some blunder. Last year Phil was crying and mad at ABK possibly not going through and how Redfall sucked. Year before that Redfall and Sf getting delayed.

Next months all will be forgiven by Xbox fanboys because they put on a great show or whatever. Then come next year MS creates more fires in their house rinse and repeat. This happens every year don't fall for this trap this year.

-Foxtrot2h ago

The shows are an issue when they seem to promise things that either eventually dissapoint or never see the light of day

Apparently Perfect Dark is having a lot of trouble, Fable 4 is still nowhere to be seen, Everwild, State of Decay so on

Skuletor20m ago

Maybe it's all a scheme to drop share prices, buy up a bunch of them, then sell them when their value rises, probably not but I wouldn't put it past them.

lelo2play1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Microsoft have no idea what they are doing in gaming. It's time for them to just leave the gaming scene.
It would be better if some other company took their place as the third console developer, beside Sony and Nintendo.

Mark my words... If Hellblade 2 flops in sales, Ninja Theory will be killed off.

Skuletor19m ago

It would be interesting to see what Apple could do but their consoles would probably be way overpriced.

Hedstrom17m ago

Apple would price their console 1500$ and their games 100$. But it would apparently still sell somehow!

Elda1h ago

XB fans better buy those digital only copies of Hellblade 2 instead of renting the game through GP otherwise Ninja Theory will be next.

Hypertension1401h ago

I also feel like Turn 10 and the forza motorsport series is on its last legs.

The newest game in the series completely killed off most of its fanbase.

Vits41m ago

At this point, it's hard to find a single studio that isn't in danger. Tango has created their most well-regarded new IP of the last 10 years and was likely Xbox best entry point to Japan. However, it has been shut down, so now all bets are off.

Tacoboto29m ago

I know, right?

And the former head of Turn10 became the head of Xbox Game Studios only back in November. What a load of pride and accomplishment

Tacoboto33m ago

I pre-ordered the game on Sunday on Steam before all this madness. Having it through Game Pass, I know I'll install it on Xbox to compare console vs Ultrawide on PC, but PC is where I want to play and I was compelled to buy it for how astounding of an experience the first one was to me.

Considering the time they were allowed to work on something only 8 hours long, I'm highly hoping that these are going to be some of the most well-polished 8 hours of the generation so far.

... Not that it matters though. Remember HiFi Rush hit their metrics and expectations. Even if they tell us it's successful, fans and employees alike can't expect that to mean the studio's safe or secure.

We'll only know it's successful if they get to live to see a PS5 port through. If a PS5 port isn't in the rumor mill, we know they'll go under like Arkane Austin and the oh-so-close offline Redfall patch.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast9h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech54h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom6h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff21836h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus235h ago(Edited 5h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-2h ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

Elda1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

To me...Avowed graphics look cheap, the game looks generic as well as boring.

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anast9h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast4h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim4h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

anast20m ago

I find it interesting that people have to resort to praising how they were randomly born in a certain location to say they're not weird. But, I'm not sure this kind of stupidity can be generalized over an entire group of people, at least, I'm being optimistic here.

Eonjay8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman7h ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto5h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA5h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda5h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz1495h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT3h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Sonic18813h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead8h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson6h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff21836h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus235h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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