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Xbox360 in the #1spot this holiday season and beyond While Peter Moore gets smashed on the HipHopGamerShow 9/21/08

* 360 destroying the competition
* Naruto: Rise To Ninja Review
* Peter Moore Gets Smashed
* Life With Playstation Finally Arrives but was it worth the wait?
* Will Nintendo wii end up in last place this holiday season?
* Much Much More Enjoy The Show

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Jamie Foxx5710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

but hiphopgamer is certainly just a gamers gamer and tells it as he sees it so kudos,360 is going for the jugular this holiday season,we as the consumer are certainly reaping the awards from this price cut (cheap way to play gears) and because sony must now lower their price microsoft have forced this upon sony,to all the fanboys this is why competition is good

Genesis55710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

3 years into it's life and $199 for a next gen console with no dedicated hard drive and a last gen disc format.(The Wii seems to appeal to alot of non traditional gamers,360 does not) I just can't see the 360 selling Wii like numbers at this stage.

I figure the 360 for 5 million maybe 10 million(life time) bigger install base than the original Xbox. I will have to wait for the numbers obviously. But if the 360 crushes the competition the holiday season I will say I was wrong and everyone that disagrees with me was right.

But I don't think that is going to happen.

tordavis5710d ago

"3 years into it's life and $199 for a next gen console with no dedicated hard drive and a last gen disc format. I just can't see this thing selling Wii like numbers at this stage."

I TOTALLY AGREE! At least you get a hard drive, HDMI/Component and DVD playback with the Wii. And it's cheaper!

InMyOpinion5710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

Some would say he's not just biased, but 'PS3-curious'.

Yo yo tordavis! Have you considered renaming the bitbag to the flamebag, since everything you produce are flame articles with no substance?

theKiller5710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

if $350 didnt do anything for 360 in this year what will $300 do??

about the arcade well... people buy the wii not only because its cheaper but mostly about its motion sensing controller, i dont know why people want to forget about that fact!!

the arcade will not steal a single casual customer from wii!!
and the premium and elite maybe they have a little bit better chance on competing with ps3!

dont forget ps3 have blue ray, free online,wifi, HOME, and multiple AAA mega hits this fall and finally big blue ray movies like the dark night etc all that for just 100 bugs extra!!

Jamie Foxx5710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

because yes we as gamers know the ps3 has alot of advantages technology wise over the 360 but IGNORANCE IS BLISS how else can a console using ps2 technology in dvd9 and have a33% hardware failure rate not be dead and buried.....,theres comments further down from steve saying he may pick up another 360 as back up? rrod seems acceptable now(crazy huh),rrod & ps3s advantages are not highlighted enough to the masses & parents are looking for a cheap way to enter the 'next-gen'

callahan095710d ago

I like the hiphopgamer, I think he's generally pretty well informed and comes to logical assumptions about things...

That said, and I should also say I haven't yet listened to this episode, I just read the synopsis right here... but all that said, I really don't know why he would think Wii would come in last place this holiday. It will probably come in first place again. Remember, the holiday season is when parents buy stuff for children. That means Wii, as far as I'd venture to guess. Sure, there are teenagers who will get 360's and PS3's, and adults who will ask their girlfriends or wives for a 360 or PS3... but I think that the Wii will continue to be a complete absence from store shelves this holiday, selling through all stock and being the biggest seller yet again.

Also, what is it with these people lately saying 360 is destroying the competition? Last I checked, it has been outsold by the PS3 on a worldwide level every single month this year, and it's been outsold by the PS3 in the USA for the majority of months this year. It only had a small resurgence last month when it sold barely 10,000 units more than the PS3 did in America, and when you're talking hundreds of thousands of units, that is a very small margin of victory. When compared to the Wii, the two systems are in a virtual tie. So I don't see how anyone can claim the 360 is dominating, when it isn't even dominating the PS3 much less the fact that it's still taking a gigantic beating by the Wii.

leila015710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

With €400 you can get an Elite [€250], with a headset, HDMI cable, 120gb HD, Fable/Gears [€60], Gold membership account [€30] and you'll still have €60 remaining.
The PS3 [€400] + a game [€60] + headset [€?)

The PS3 is just too damn expensive. I wonder how this thing keeps selling.

CrazzyMan5710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

leila01, I agree, PS3 is kinda expensive here in Europe, compared to x360.
BUT..
Price - High Quality console + blu-ray player = media center -> a Family Thing. :)
And 250 for elite? SO far it was 300 and 240 for 60Gb model.

Anyway, there are some positive points about PS3:
1) reliable
2) quiet
3) free online, home
4) build in wi-fi
5) without pain rechargeable controllers
6) blu-ray movies
7) freely changeable hdd
8) disc scratching free system
9) habitual controller for ps2 crowd

Immaculate5709d ago

Depends on how you define high quality game console. The 360 is the highest quality gaming experience period. The most high quality titles+largest game library+best online service= highest quality gaming experience

The price, the amount of media, and award winning controller design are just a bonus.

CrazzyMan5709d ago (Edited 5709d ago )

"The 360 is the highest quality gaming experience period. The most high quality titles+largest game library+best online service= highest quality gaming experience " - That`s WHY x360 was OUSTOLD by PS3 for almost whole year in all regions?

That make sense.)) Or maybe just consumers DON`T agree with your personal opinion since they are buying more PS3s, then x360s. It`s all about games, isn`t it? :)
It`s a consumer, who DECIDES.

Immaculate5709d ago (Edited 5709d ago )

Crazzyman, you had better enjoy those short lived sales comments while you still can.

SCThor, what's it like sitting in a PC chair playing games on a $800-$1500 dollar PC, knowing that you could have been laying on a couch or bed playing the exact same games for $200? You're kind of weird.

SCThor5709d ago (Edited 5709d ago )

My ($500,P4 2.4GHZ,2GB RAM,GEFORCE 8600GT)cpu is hooked to my entertainment room's LCD 42", I'm using a Xbox360 controller that connects to the cpu using a wireless receiver and I'm laying on my couch as I write...

(anyone...feel free to type owned,pwned,toasty or whatever you like below this post) :)

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DavidMacDougall5710d ago

Probably but how many out of the thousands sold will work? That is the big question

Shadow Man5710d ago

RROD AND DVD9 Ps3s life support.

DavidMacDougall5710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

"Shadow Man keeps dipping his toe in the fanboy pool but it never works out for him so he keeps switching sides like his own sexuality" - DMD

I cant tell about you anymore are you a bot or a droid ?

@AlterEgo -Nice list bubbles for u

AlterEgo5710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

You mean along with:

Killzone 2
Resistance 2
God of War 3
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
SOCOM: Confrontation
LittleBigPlanet
White Knight Chronicles
Disgaea 3
inFAMOUS
The Agency
Free Online Multiplayer
Home
Blu-ray
everything multi-platform
and everything else in 2009 that's as of yet unannounced?

Sir_Ken_Kutaragi5710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

* The xBox 360 is CR*P

End of SirKenKutaragiShow 9/21/08
Tune in Next week!!! ;-D

marionz5709d ago

actually most will work, i have a new console and the new hardware is much quieter and cooler then my launch pro console, RRoD is pretty much a thing of the past to most 360 owners so its time to just move on.

i actually hope my launch pro console dies before the warranty is up so i can get the new components put in, but yes the new consoles are a huge improvement in both noise and heat, new one doesnt get any warmer then the ps3.

KiddyBrownTurd5709d ago

ROFLMAO

out of all those games, only God of War 3 has the potential to be AAA. and that's if it doesn't suck now that Jaffe AND Balrog are off the team.

poooooooooooor droids

chewy3175709d ago

yea since when can the 360 fight with the ps3 when its still barely winning the ps2.

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NewSchoolGamer5710d ago

needs to pray that the xbox360 outsells the PS3 every single month as of the date the price cut is in effect.

If not, Sony can go for the kill.

KingDizzi5710d ago

No praying will help MS, the only area where the price cut can have a continuous effect on consoles ales is NA. In Japan and the EU I can see the increase in sales due to a price drop for a month max but thats it.

If anything I guarantee that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in EU and Japan for the rest of the year, you should see the huge FIFA 09 PS3 advert and also WKC releasing in December 25th.

egm_hiphopgamer5710d ago

if for some reason 360 can't extend the lead over ps3 at a 199 price tag then MS may be in trouble as far as the console wars go because ps3 will eventually become a 199 price and that will be a big blow to MS but i doubt you'll see a 199 price tag on PS3 in 2009 so MS still has tons of breathing room even leading up to there next system

leila015710d ago (Edited 5710d ago )

As far as they keep making games for my 360 I'm fine. It doesn't really matters to me if it outsells the PS3 or not.

Glad to see you've dropped you fanboy status HipHop, you're now becoming a real gaming journalist. I'm looking forward to your next show.

The Dark Knight5709d ago

who cares if xbox 360 we be number 1 this season, why do we need to worry? we got Ps3's lol i dont see how being number 1 is so bad when is pretty much has nothing to do with us. I have Both consoles, but for people who dont, you dont need to get angry cause its just business

If anything Good on Microsft

uxo225709d ago

Nice show! Very Entertaining.

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KingDizzi5710d ago

Everyone calls this guy bias but he he just truthful, fanboys can bash him all they want but he makes educated suggestions. Of course the 360 will destroy PS3 sales IN NA, I just hope anyone with any sort of intelligence can accept that.

thewhoopimen5710d ago

Not that I disagree with the 360 price drop and software lineup as a very strong buy incentive, but what will the 360 have this holiday season that will appeal to the mass consumer? I think gow2 and fable 2 are great games but... they are niche. I still think the wii will squeak past the 360 this holiday season.

egm_hiphopgamer5710d ago

I understand your theory but people stand in line for gears of war, what nintendo has that people will line up for besides smash bros which is already out you see what i mean the hype alone is gonna make it a mass market appeal, keep in mind sometimes people buy stuff just to say they have it and gears is a game like that because of it's popularity

The Lazy One5710d ago

will work in favor of the 360.

By far the strongest lineup this year is in the 3rd party non-exclusive games. When people go to the store and see these amazing games (Rage, PoP, End War, lotsa EA sports games, etc.), which play the same on a $199 console as a $399 console, it's hard to argue with.

Then it still has a strong exclusive lineup, and a lot of new features in the update for the casual gamer (XNA community games, growing XBLA library, Xbox Primetime, Avatars, etc.).

To say it still won't appeal at this price point with the features coming is ignorance.

Summary: 360 is getting plenty of casual and hardcore content, and 3rd party multi platform titles work in favor of the cheapest system.

thewhoopimen5710d ago

good point Hiphop but I still think you and a lot of analysts miss the key word "casual gamer" or lets make it even more mainstream term, "casual consumer." The MASS casual consumer has NO IDEA what is new or not in terms of game release dates, platform exclusive, etc. They look at what everyone else has, whats fun for family, and what people talk about. Sure Gears is going to be a big topic, but moms and dads are definitely going to shy away from this controversial title. No one knows about fable. Besides Gears, there is nothing family friendly per se except viva pinata and part 2.

Wii has the numbers, Wii has the cool controller, Wii has more family friendly games. Wii games will be cheaper b/c of the older age of the titles. Wii is similarly priced, will will win like "tickle me elmos" win.

edhe5710d ago

The cheap-as 360 doesn't just play exclusive games you know. Any multiplatform system seller will sell on the 360, due to the price differential.

I'd imagine force unleashed bundles on the 360 arcade would've sold more than on the ps3.

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A Matter Of Trust: What The Game Industry Should Do To Win Gamers Back

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Sarah Bond dodges questions on Xbox studio closures

While on stage with Dina Bass at The Bloomberg Technology Summit the President of Xbox, Sarah Bond, was asked about the Xbox studio closures of Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, Alpha Dog, and Roundhouse Studios

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ApocalypseShadow16h ago

Of course she did. She's part of the problem and will just tow the company line.

VenomUK14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bloomberg’s Dina Bass could barely read her scripted question without looking at her notes, whilst Sarah Bond who WAS expecting the question spoke without saying anything of substance or answering the question in any meaningful way. Clearly she’s had the same expert PR training as Phil, but this avoidance was disrespectful. In time the short-sighted decision to shut down Tango Gameworks will be seen as of the most notorious examples why Phil Spencer messed up his tenure in charge of Xbox. That’s a fully built out talented team that could’ve been put to work on any project.

Additionally, Phil Spencer should not be using Sarah Bond as a patsy for his mistakes- he should be answering that question.

gleepot12h ago

I think you are all really overselling Tangos value. Hi-Fi rush was a lot of fun. Ghostwire was incredibly dull. Evil within 1 and 2 were just okay.

lucasnooker11h ago

Evil within 2 was incredibly under rated. I thought that game was surprisingly good

NotoriousWhiz8h ago

Someone else said it best. I don't think it was a Phil decision. It was most likely a Satya decision. I think Microsoft is done giving out free money to Xbox.

Cacabunga6h ago

people please boycott Activision Bethesda next release and support Hellblade.
these people mus understand that they cannot treat their fans and employees that way.
scumbags.

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XiNatsuDragnel15h ago

Yikes you don't help Sarah 😬 making a problem worse

Christopher14h ago

She's playing her role. There's absolutely nothing any of them can say other than the truth, this is about profit margins and not quality, so they just don't answer anything and wait for gamers to forget.

shinoff21833h ago

I think news is coming of more ps5 release but they gotta be careful cause Xbox is still sitting on store shelves. They can't get left holding all that stock

Lightning772h ago

Come next month they'll flash nice looking games in our faces and expecting us to forget.

The only thing that'll be going through my mind at their showcase is how many of those studios will get shut down after release.

I'm not joking around either. MS probably expects every game to be like COD and do COD numbers. What a way to destroy gaming for the entire industry because they're dumb af at being realistic in what success means for each game.

-Foxtrot1h ago

Always feels she was brought in / promoted for this. Happened just before things started to be out in motion.

Phil and co have someone to throw under the bus and share the blame with

zaanan5h ago

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Hofstaderman15h ago

Like a deer caught in the headlights.....

notachance15h ago

I always wondered why xbox had multiple leaders with similar titles like Phil Spencer, Matt Booty, and Sarah Bond, like, how many heads do you actually need?

Seems to me it would be more cost efficient to cut 2 of them instead of all those studios.

DarXyde13h ago

Frankly, I suspect she is the most competent of them. I don't mean that I like her more, I mean that she's the best at articulating herself and giving the talking points MS wants to give. The others are starting to sound more like her than her sounding like any of them.

Are any of these people "responsible" for what's happening? No. This reeks of Nadella. But that being said, I don't see any of the Xbox heads stepping down in protest.

"Don't shoot the messenger", sure, but at the same time, the messengers don't seem to take umbrage with the message. Not enough to remove themselves from it, anyway.

CS71h ago

I disagree. Nadella is looking for profit as a CEO should in my opinion.

The problem is Dr. Phil & Co. had 10 years to bring Xbox back on track and have been failing woefully.

Phil needs to sell to Nadella that if we are to make a profit, we need to make great games. And to do that we need employees here for the long haul and the freedom to work on creative projects.

But as Phil said himself he doesn’t believe great games sell consoles.

RpgSama6h ago

Dude, 100%, forgot Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg, like what is the point for all these suits? They have more C-level executives than games released in a generation.

This is just so they can all pass along the hot potato one at a time and in between all of them can say a lot without actually saying anything, misinformation at its finest.

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