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Xbox One games: why you shouldn't underestimate Microsoft's core line-up

Microsoft's Don Mattrick and Phil Spencer talk "quadruple-A" and flexible platforms.

dirigiblebill3987d ago

Please god don't let them **** up Fable 4. And let the new Rare game be a new Viva Pinata. And make Black Tusk's shooter genuinely different to Halo. While I'm on, god, how about a new Republic Commando and closure on Beyond Good and Evil 2?

dirigiblebill3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

Any chance of a new G-Police, too?

Jam_sponge3987d ago

G-Police is Sony's, I think.

sengoku3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

Sure M$ will have games at E3. i bet Ouya will to.

the real question is can they top what Sony has on the show floor at E3.

do they have games on xbone that will have the masses buying there unlimited cloud magic powered DRM TV remote.

thats the real question here.

ThanatosDMC3987d ago

G-police is such a fun game way back when... I had it working on my old PSP-2000.

aviator1893987d ago

I don't think it will be pinata...maybe some older franchise from rare.

dirigiblebill3987d ago

Yeah, I wasn't being entirely serious :p Killer Instinct seems most likely, given that MS has updated its trademark.

MariaHelFutura3987d ago

People said "Don't underestimate Microsoft" leading into the reveal. Look how that turned out.

http://www.reactiongifs.com...

pompombrum3987d ago

Truth hurts for deluded xbox fanboys.

wantonGamer3987d ago

Bwahaha, that gif is perfect for MSFT's console reveal.

Gildarts3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

1 billion dollar investment in nextgen games.. Who was saying that MS forgot about gamers again?

Sony simply doesn't have that sheer amount of money to spend on games.

Sony won't be able to do 15 exclusives in one year.

1 Superman > 4 Humans
Xbox One, It only does everything.

@Godmars
With the sheer amount of money they're putting into this. Why wouldn't they be able to? They have been silent on games for 3 years. We are about to see the results of it.

MariaHelFutura3987d ago

"Who was saying that MS forgot about gamers again?"

Their press conference and business policies.

Godmars2903987d ago

"Sony won't be able to do 15 exclusives in one year."

But can MS deliver on 15 exclusives in one year? Will they aim for 15 the next?

Gildarts3987d ago

@MariaHelFutura

Their press conference and their business policies?

Lies.

They clearly said that the event won't be focused on games before,during and after the event.

If you were still expecting more games. Then you were bound to be disappointed. Or you shouldn't have watched at all.

disposable3987d ago

Xbox One, it only does everything ELSE.

MariaHelFutura3987d ago

"They clearly said that the event won't be focused on games before,during and after the event."

Wow, you're actually right.

They said it will be about hardware. They barely talked about the specs, showed a peripheral and an app for 45 mins.

http://www.reactiongifs.com...

dirigiblebill3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

@MariaHelFutura

Agreed that it was all rather app-focused, but give them a break - they revealed the specs, discussed cloud computing applications, demoed Kinect, showed off the box AND let journalists go hands-on with aspects of the machine. They even let people take photos of the motherboard. Sony has yet to so much as show us what PS4 looks like.

duli143987d ago

Just like you said MS have been silent and have not put out any games in over 3 years! so the billion they're spending is to play catch up to Sony. Meanwhile Sony has been releasing exclusive after exclusive and probably have spent alot more money. 1 billion from MS will get you TIMED exclusive cod dlc, quantum something, forza and the rest is kinect

loulou3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

mariahelfuture

you are trying too hard to convince everybody that they should hate xbox and love playstation we get it..

and yes it was made clear before the announcement that the games would be shown at e3.

at the moment, e3 is do or die for xbox with me. but seeing you in EVERY SINGLE xbox thread is not going to persuade me or anyone i should think that they should ignore it now.

it is getting old watching the same people on here everyday. and no you are not alone in being a nuisance fanboy/girl whatever you are...

i aint defending microsoft, just sick of reading fantards comments

Godmars2903987d ago

@dirigiblebill:

They actually did little if none of that. System specs weren't gone into detail, likely because of obvious differences to the PS4. The Kinect stage "demo" was only recorded segments with even the TV control segment not having a unit on stage to play against. Xb1's box was uninspiring. Then off-stage where hey did allow reports to actually see Kinect in action there were signs of lag and the "tick" thing its known for. Slight but still present and likely damaging which is why they didn't live demo it on stage.

They are not as much of an upfront company as you'd like to think. You might say the same of Sony, but at the very least they went into detail about their system and didn't have to show off the actual box because their mouthpiece shot his off.

@Gildarts

"With the sheer amount of money they're putting into this. Why wouldn't they be able to?"

Too Human. Duke Nukem. The Last Guardian. FFvs13.

Problems crop up during development which can't be simply fixed by throwing money at it. Likewise if they try to keep to just getting titles out to get them out at a certain time, there's no real telling what quality of games you're going to get.

dirigiblebill3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

"They actually did little if none of that. System specs weren't gone into detail, likely because of obvious differences to the PS4."

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/m...
http://www.oxm.co.uk/54385/...

Quite enough for me. How much more detail were you expecting, exactly?

"The Kinect stage "demo" was only recorded segments with even the TV control segment not having a unit on stage to play against. Xb1's box was uninspiring. Then off-stage where hey did allow reports to actually see Kinect in action there were signs of lag and the "tick" thing its known for. Slight but still present and likely damaging which is why they didn't live demo it on stage."

Shady stuff as regards the live demo, I agree - but surely the fact that they were happy to let journos try it afterwards is a good thing? Has Sony let anybody try out that Media Molecule demo from the PS4 reveal yet?

"They are not as much of an upfront company as you'd like to think. You might say the same of Sony, but at the very least they went into detail about their system and didn't have to show off the actual box because their mouthpiece shot his off."

I would say exactly the same of Sony, yes. Frankly, my problem with the negativity people are sending Microsoft's way isn't that Microsoft doesn't deserve it, but that Sony's no less prone to spin, encroachment on consumer rights, dodgy pricing/online practises, etc. These are the chaps who Trojan-horsed the Blu-ray into living rooms, remember, inflating the PS3's price in the process.

Siding with one big publicly traded corporation is as bad as siding with another. They're all out to get us, you know.

Godmars2903987d ago

"Has Sony let anybody try out that Media Molecule demo from the PS4 reveal yet?"

You're comparing a single game - actually thought it was only a tech demo and Sony just let them play around to show off what the (MM) was considering with the PS4 - to a full on accessory like Kinect? And then what they showed the media was basic diagnostics. Nothing different from when Kinect wasn't called Kinect, and even then they had games to show it off with.

"but that Sony's no less prone to spin, encroachment on consumer rights, dodgy pricing/online practises, etc. These are the chaps who Trojan-horsed the Blu-ray into living rooms, remember, inflating the PS3's price in the process."

I'll give you all the pro-spin BS surrounding vibration early on with the PS3, but nothing Sony has done - or has yet to announce - measures up to what MS is requiring with Xb1.

Yes they - tried to - Trojan BR with the PS3, but only because it worked with DVD and the PS2. Its because that worked so well, was a different time, that the movie-player industry was in a position to counter the move. Offer cheaper single-players sooner.

And still that is nothing to all of the nonsense surrounding the Arcade SKU for the 360. Shows how badly Xbox defender's stances are to this day because they refuse to concede to the counter-points that in needing an expensive HDD which could only be gotten from MS, it was a true Trojan horse rip-off.

Mr Marvel3987d ago

...and how many of those 15 exclusives will actually be worth playing?

syphon323987d ago

@Gildarts, how much did they pay you to join their pr team? News flash, your in the one percent of flesh bags who thinks that way about Microscrew.

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r213987d ago

BG&E2 is ubisofts property and their only excuse for not progressing was because it was too much for this gen. Next gen is upon us so hopefully BG&E2 is in works now.

OlgerO3987d ago

this article just made me consider to jump from being a sony fanboy to potetnially buying the xbox one over PS4. If halve of this is true then this is going to get the best games we ever seen

3-4-53987d ago

Forza 5 & Fifa 14 will be solid games. Those are good series.

Other than that, we don't know much. Hardly any actual gameplay has been shown and trailers are just there to make people think the game is cooler/better than it actually is.

People who are proud of their game show off actual in game gameplay footage...or they should at least.

Tres213987d ago

i hated that Republic Commando never got a sequel that was my game & if they had it set up lik thay did wit 4 players now that'd be great

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ltachiUchiha3987d ago

Wish they can backup their talk with sum new core games for their current system. All talk, no action.

Gildarts3987d ago

I think spending 1 billion dollar. Is action lol.

But you wouldn't care you're just a Sony fanboy.

ltachiUchiha3987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

$1 billion dollars & name me all the amazing new exclusive core games that came out for the 360 in the last 4 years? Show me the amazing lineup. Oh u cant because all the new ip's were kinect games. Thats not impressive at all. I also own two 360's but you wouldnt no that because microsoft got you on a leash.

wiz71913987d ago

They said a minimal of $1 billion dollars.

Aceman183987d ago (Edited 3987d ago )

you know for a company who can't supposedly afford to fund any games they sure are doing a bang up job with these releases over the past 2 yrs or coming later this year.

Gravity Rush
Killzone Merc
The Last of Us
Beyond Two Souls
Tearaway
Playstation All-Stars
Starhawk
Soul Sacrifice
The Puppeteer
The Rain
Knack
Drive Club
Infamous Second Son
Killzone Shadow Fall
The Last Guardian (which will be out of PS4)
Uncharted Golden Abyss
Sly Cooper Thieves in Time
Unit 13
Sound Shapes

so please Gildarts explain to me how a company that possibly can't fund games. also if you believe all those 15 games are going to be AAA games you are either bats**t crazy or the biggest blind fanboy ive ever seen.

yugovega3987d ago

don't underestimate their first party halo games sells very well the tweens, just like twilight did.

Thepharaoh3987d ago

How can we underestimate something we don't even know exists

GamingWorldPeace3987d ago

Because 8 games were already leaked even before E3.

http://xboxonedaily.com/201...

Based on the leaked images, the speculations are:
1. Quantum Break
2. Crackdown 3
3. Forza 5
4. A mystery new game??
5. A new Halo
6. A new game from Rare.
7. Ryse
8. Unknown. A new Fable or Black Tusk game?

Thepharaoh3987d ago

link is broken
forza is overdone and easy,
Quantum is some tv tie in garbage
crackdown has fallen
fable has fallen
microsoftt unfortunately is going to kill rare 's game
the mystery game is unknown
ryse is kinect and to shrouded

having black tusk and halo is not a lineup

DevilishSix3987d ago

Well if thats eight of the 15 games, I wouldn't be all that excited really.

felidae3987d ago

i don't care for any kind of game if the "used game thing" is going to happen as it's being teased.

The Meerkat3987d ago

What if 360 games are half the price of PS4 games because the devs know they'll sell more due to the no used game thing?

I'm just saying there must be some reason why MS look like they are shooting themselves in the foot.

rainslacker3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Won't happen. That means you have to sell more than twice as many on the Xbox to get the same amount of revenue. Publishers know people are willing to spend $60, and there are some that want to charge more.

And to date, there is no evidence to support that games will sell significantly more with no used games. In fact, recent events show that many people would avoid them, causing them to sell less.

Think of it like this.

Say they pick up an extra 50K sales because people really want the game. But on the flip side 100K people don't buy the game because of the used issue. We could switch inverse the argument, but either way we'd just be speculating.

And that's the point. There is nothing to show that it will improve game sales, and there is no reason to trust publishers to do right by the consumer by keeping prices low.

Jimquisition explains why.

http://n4g.com/news/1265674...

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7223h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21839h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga8h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan4h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus232h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10112h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos12h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-2h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac11h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10111h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 20h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 17h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 15h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 8h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 9h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 5h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 17h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 3h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 3h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger17m ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 19h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 19h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 16h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 18h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 17h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10113d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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