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What Sony and Microsoft Can Learn from the Wii U Launch

What can rival console makers learn from the launch of Nintendo's Wii U? Quite a bit, actually.

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Hatsune-Miku4154d ago

They can learn not to release a weak console.

akaakaaka4153d ago (Edited 4153d ago )

Why is he a troll?
He as I and most gamers are mad that one of the big games corp. Do not use high end tech for their console anymore. And do not please the hardcore or third party gamed anymore..
Ninty have become chrip old tech tech milkers and not innovative anymore tech wise.

Yes their touch screen is old for games and console side screen has be done with the psp before, cool that ninty took it to a new level but old.

Edith..
Tell that to the ps3, it did have high end tech when it launch, not in every part or components was high end but it was up there, and don't play the smart guy you know what I meant when I say that you ninty fanboy last time I check I grow up with nintendo and I have the right to ask for more and better technology from nintendo, they sold well and this is what they made old.

Just like cod games they sale a lot but they only milk it and not use new technology, it's a shame to support them whoever does.

Ducky4153d ago (Edited 4153d ago )

Consoles don't usually have high end tech.
They did popularize motion gaming last-gen, so the innovation is there.

It's also been quite a while since Nintendo had the most advanced hardware.

ElectricKaibutsu4153d ago

Why would that make you mad? You have two other console makers who will make the exact system you want, with tons of power and plenty of ram. If you only plan on buying one next gen system and don't care about Nintendo games, the Wii U is just one less console you need to consider.

akaakaaka4153d ago (Edited 4153d ago )

Obviously I say I growth up playing nintendo games I like zelda, metroid, mario kart but using old tech when they have the money and time to developed a AAA games that is relative to new technology so I can care again about them, I will love to play a new zelda that is relative to current gen (if I want to play old tech I will go back and play okarina of time's)
Let indie devs to use old technology, multimillion corp. Like nintendo should focus on new technology.

N4g_null4152d ago

The gpgpu and wireless displays with gyros are new technology ??? Even the blu ray is faster. No one is even using it correctly yet and it can already do last gen ports.

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SilentNegotiator4153d ago (Edited 4153d ago )

Bu bu but I know better than professional game developers! I googled "GPGPU"!!
They just don't even know how to use it yet! Even Nintendo is baffled by it, creating 720p games with just post-AA, and slow menus!
The idea of a GPGPU is ONLY 30 years old! No one GETS it yet!
Nvidia has ONLY been working with modern ones since the turn of the century!
COME ON, GUIS!

Aaaaaaanyway, it's not like they're likely to make hardware changes now, if the very solid rumors of 2013 releases are true.

gpturbo814153d ago (Edited 4153d ago )

you need to get out in the world a bit. get laid, smoke a bowl, enjoy life. you are waaay too into it. their just video games. maybe take a shit, your probably just constipated

SilentNegotiator4152d ago

I didn't know enjoying parody was such a shallow pursuit. Thank you for showing me, TEH ERRORS OF MAH WAIS

chukamachine4152d ago

Yep gpturbo81.

I took a shit, it's awesome dude.

Feel like a new man.

I was even told last night by a 360 player, that Microsoft are more a games company then SONY.

I told him to take a shit, smack his head. Take the green stuff off his eyes.

As for Nintendo, they think because they Won big with the WII, they will win with the WII-U. It's underpowered, nobody cares about a screen controller, and most people only buy Nintendo for Nintendo games. Wii was a fluke because soccer mums and gran parents bought them for children to get involved in easy games.

Won't happen again.

When Nintendo loses against PS4, will People that realize that winning one gen, does not mean winning the next.

Just like android shits all over apple.

GribbleGrunger4153d ago (Edited 4153d ago )

It's a sad state of affairs when someone simply states, in a succinct way, the answer to a question. It might be a bitter pill but he's right. I sold my Wiiu the day after I got it... and that's not like me.

I found it awkward and unappealing. I'm the most disappointed person here because. I was completely convinced that Nintendo had put the casuals to bed and entered next gen... Boy was I wrong.

If you enjoy the Wiiu then that's sweet. This is down to personal preference and not an attack on anyone's 'values'. I cringed when Sony said that next gen started when they said it does and I'm now cringing because Nintendo just don't understand what next gen means

ElectricKaibutsu4152d ago

I guess trolling is in the eye of the beholder.

GribbleGrunger4152d ago

Well, he might be trolling and he might not. Perhaps, just like me, he's really disappointed.

Ben_Grimm4152d ago

The console JUST released how can you be disappointed so fast? It hasn't even had a chance to gain legs and run the distance.

I find it funny that a lot of people here tell folks to give Vita a year and to wait patiently for more games to be released. But when it comes to the WiiU people are selling them back after a couple weeks (or so they say) or very disappointed by the lack of games and ports.

When the 360/PS3 launched it too had its share of ports only and games that looked no where near as good as they do now.

Why the quick dismissal of a new system all of a sudden?

thaimasker4152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

Yes because then mabye they wouldn't have been so far the wii in sales.....

avengers19784152d ago

Probably that proper marketing is a valuable asset.

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ElectricKaibutsu4153d ago

This article is pretty spot on. I don't know about not releasing games already released on other systems though. Yeah, they don't sell great, but it sure is cheaper porting a game than making a new one. Some gamers have a backlog of games they're wading through and didn't get to all of this year's big releases. Being able to play one of those games on their new systems lets them: A, actually get use out of their new system through the inevitable launch drought and B, gives them a reason to experience those games even after all the hype is gone.

Good article imho.

Rageanitus4153d ago

honestly... sony and ms better watch what steambox has to offer

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4153d ago (Edited 4153d ago )

Less kid games.

Low Price.

Standard Hdd.

wiiVerse like networking.

BootHammer4153d ago

Great article. I agree the next Xbox and PlayStation need to be exhaustively tested and ready to play come launch day (no excessive patching).

They both must have exclusive titles will be KEY and of course the hardware itself will need a robust CPU and GPU (or GPGPU) paired with adequate Ram to future proof the machines. This will give the devs more tools and options at their disposal to be truly creative without limitations, which will give gamers the best games yet =)

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 1h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning774h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga12h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218311h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan6h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus235h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv724h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10115h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos14h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-4h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac13h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10113h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic11h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 11h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken21h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 7h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 6h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 7h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 3h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 6h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 5h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 22h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 19h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 17h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 10h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 12h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 8h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 19h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 5h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 5h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger2h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 21h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 21h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 18h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 20h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 19h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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