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PlayStation Now hands-on: you'll never think of gaming the same way again | TheVerge

The Verge: Sony has finally spilled the details on its Gaikai-powered streaming service PlayStation Now, and we wasted no time in giving it a try. PlayStation Now lets owners of Sony hardware (including PS4, PS3, Vita, and Bravia TVs) stream some of the company's greatest games — all from the cloud. The demo at Sony's CES show booth features four titles, including The Last of Us, God of War: Ascension, Beyond: Two Souls, and Puppeteer.

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AceBlazer133762d ago

Good to hear it was decent. Kinda makes you wonder if console's days are actually numbered.

iamnsuperman3762d ago (Edited 3762d ago )

Well the article does mention some lag and the quality not being as good as disc based games. It seems we can do it with the current infrastructure but it is far from a viable way to use it as the primary platform. Problem is the infrastructure needs a major upgrade which is going to take decades due to it costing a lot (and also console requirements for stream will increase each generation)

Phene3762d ago

Yeh I read an article saying latency will need to be low for this to shine, but thats expected with anything streaming. Wonder what the cost will be and the rental prices ...either way, finally nice to see promised features being implemented.

frostypants3762d ago

@Phene: Latency is far less important with non-interactive streaming such as movies, because they can cache and synch it. Can't do that with games...there is no way to hide the latency.

fanboybeatdown3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

ok. I am glad I am not the only one here who noticed there was multiple references to bandwidth and lag issues.

The article states:

--"Yes, there's a slightly perceptible lag between button presses and the corresponding action onscreen"

--"In terms of graphics, the experience isn't perfectly on par with what you'd get from a PS3"

--"Sony emphasized that everything will depend on your bandwidth"

--"We noticed some visual artifacts on screen"

So.
If you have really fast internet, you can probably play ps3 games over gakai at reduced graphical quality with perceptible lag.
That's basically the story without all the gushing.

RealtorMDandDC3761d ago

Well Engadget seems to disagree with you. And there was minimum lag. 5mbps is nothing, the average internet connection speed in the US is 18.2mbps.

Source: http://commercialobserver.c...

Currently we are streaming 1080p video content from PSN using PS cloud.

The infrastructure is here and would only get better.

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Rageanitus3761d ago

Nope just look at Onlive on PC..... the quality is NOT as good or even come close to a power house PC gaming rig.

Just look at Netflix it is satisfactory for certain content.... but many stil prefer watching on BD disc due to sound and pure native resolution.

hankmoody3762d ago

Really curious about the pricing on this.

SpiralTear3762d ago

I'm assuming it'll be a separate subscription service, but I'm hoping that PS+ subscribers will get some kind of discount at the very least.

However, since PS+ is almost required at this point and so many people have it, that hope is steadily fading.

Conzul3762d ago

I find myself wishing that there would be a higher-priced PS+, giving us access to PsNow and VideoUnlimited and MusicUnlimited and trimmings. If it was a buffet-style subscription, I'd pay 10-20 /mo cus I wouldn't need Netflix anymore.

Never underestimate the value of getting everything in one place...

cell9893762d ago

@Conzul I agree allow more PS4s per account to that package please. They need some kind of PS+ premium service with added feature as you mentioned Video Unlimited and Music UNlimited would be a good start

ramiuk13761d ago

i would expec thatif ps+ didnt get u online ps4 play but i think ps+ is already worth way more than we pay anyway.
im just wondering what will happen to the ps+ games if everything is avaible over psnow

Joey_Leone3762d ago

Thats what im saying, now i have 3 services from sony alone that im going to be paying for, PS+ For online play (50$), to listen to my custom soundtracks (5$) and NOW this. What is sony trying to pull? Whatever it is, it stinks. Custom soundtracks used to be free along with the online. Microtransactions are taking over as well, remember when dlc used to be free? I might just quit.

scott1823762d ago (Edited 3762d ago )

I personally think ps+ is an amazing deal, it saves me money because instead of buying games I just download what comes out on plus. You make it sound like every time something comes out to buy you are forced to purchase it... If it works for you financially do it, if not don't!

GTgamer3762d ago

mp3 support will come in the future so just wait I mean you have alot of devices that play music no ones telling you to use music unlimited :/ your getting mad about something your not forced to do.

cell9893762d ago

Id like to add that music unlimited is actually pretty badass any song any time anywhere as long as there is internet its not grounded just to your PS4 I use it on my Iphone aswell, Pandora has become useless now.

SpiralTear3762d ago

It seems that the Bravia TV streaming has some issues, but that's not necessarily indicative of Vita or PS4 streaming.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 7h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken17h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 3h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 2h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 3h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola23h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 2h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 1h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 19h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 18h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 13h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies22d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91321d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit21d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit21d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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