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Phil Spencer on OS & XBL issue: "We are playing SP & MP nightly. Anyone can post 'stuff' to the web"

Xbox One launch is shaping up to be a disaster soon as rumors of the OS being broken and Xbox Live stability issues are appearing all over the internet. Microsoft's Phil Spencer denies these claims.

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Muerte24943843d ago

he's going to deny it. Just like he denied the esRAM issues that were being had. With less than 3 weeks to go until PS4 launch, let's hope CBOAT keeps quiet until then.

theBAWSE3843d ago

Microsoft oh Microsoft...

after your DRM bullshit and the obvious lies over COD resolution... I believe nothing that comes out that company.. I'm sorry just being honest... see ms it's not so hard!!

BitbyDeath3843d ago

The full tweet turned into a disaster.
Phil bailed with his tail between his legs.

https://twitter.com/XboxP3/...

PoSTedUP3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

well, thats one way to not answer a question. would have much rather preferred "there is no problems with the X1 OS" or "thoes rumors are false", anything other than mentioning something unrelated and a indirect response to the actual proposed issue. i hope they eventually bring closure to this, everything including their behavior points to it being true, as well as the resolution issues.

his response is like me asking a NASCAR driver: 'are rumors true that are saying the interior of your car looks like crap and nothing is working properly?' driver: "well im driving it nightly, people can say whatever they want". cool, thanks for answering my question...

theBAWSE3843d ago

@bitbydeath... dude THANK YOU for that link

I've never laughed so hard.. Phil bailed when questioned about the actual os... especially when the dude said if anyone tried to get into the os at the demo kiosk they were booted off the machines..

oh man this has to be the worst unveiling, launch and PR of any console ever..

PoSTedUP3843d ago

the smartest thing for them to say is "the X1's OS will be ready at launch". not clearing up such a bad rumor only makes it worse. the truth hurts, but not as much as avoiding it or being caught in a lie.

abc12333843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

@bitbydeath: wow, talk about getting owned.

BBBirdistheWord3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

@ bitbydeath

sorry, I am not seeing how Phil bailed with his tail between his legs.

Is that some special Sony fanboy talent that you have that is required before I can see it?

Looking forward to the launch of PS4 and XBO.

At least in practice we will see which platform innovates, which has the most fun games and which platform is prone to overheating and overhating.

This is only a precursor.
let the real games begin....

Insomnia_843843d ago

Holy effin sht!!!!! Seriously MS should just delay the thing if all this is true! They will do more harm by releasing with such problems that will lead to more bigger problems! They learned nothing from the RROD disaster!

abzdine3843d ago

if i was one of the early owners i would wait just a week before buying it just to get the first return from early pigeons.

badz1493843d ago

"playing SP & MP nightly"

yeah? after this:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I always take what this guy says as PR talk and not much of anything else!

Death3843d ago

Didn't we already see the OS running? I mean seriously, the sky is falling every damn night here. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Shake_Zula3843d ago

@Death: The video you posted shows the UI and a game playing offline. Don't you ind that kind of odd considering the console was touted as an always on machine? The issue isn't when you try to play games or getting to the UI; it's network connectivity as it relates to VOIP and OS-related online features. Basically in a nutshell, XBL isn't playing nice with X1. It's ironic really that the reasons that PS3 users sort of had to shut up when talking about online features now applies to the X1.

JokesOnYou3843d ago

Yep anybody can write on the internet if anybodys behind its sony heres why:
 

Only 1 high profile launch game and its a shooter running on an old engine offers nothing next gen, graphics upgrade cannot run 1080p 60fps whole game and its sonys flagship game WITHOUT DEDICATED SERVERS vs a open world tons of zombies on screen no loading, no streaming, plus a hack n slash @900p with the best next gen graphics and by far the best cinematics in any game launching. 

Then we have Driveclub delay but Forza5 looks better and as a sim has more going in regards to tech performance all at 1080p 60fps. 

Then we have seen far more about the X1's hardware details with hot chips conferences and other panels talking about the custom design architecture and UI than ps4's? sony lack of details on hardware suggests it off the shelf since they've been pretty hush to say otherwise, sure wasn't hush about the cell/bluray last gen launch. 

Then we have seen COD Ghost and BF4 both already running on X1 looking no different than ps4 versions. 

Then we've seen X1 at more events not 1 cancellation unlike sony and X1 is in more stores with gamers having hands on while sony has ps4 showcased in controlled sony stores. 

All this while having the more robust console that not only is launching standard with a high tech camera but also introducing next gen ideas like cloud computing and is leading with dedicated servers available to all games/Azure. 

Now its 2 weeks before ps4 launch micro is still showing more, engaging with the public while we hear of sony not getting ps4 in journos hands setting review restrictions, and just running the same Taco Bell ads a few others but where are the uncontrolled hands on demos of the KZ SF and the system UI at this point?...releasing earlier we should see alot more from sony but we don't. 

Only hit for micro is bad PR the system itself has proven over and over again rumors were wrong about die issues, downclocking, fcc certification, no demos, delays, supply and code issues. This latest OS crap will also be next BS rumor proven wrong. 

^^^^Its sony who looks far less ready than micro for next gen.^^^^

BBBirdistheWord3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Yoiks!

The more i look past the fanboys and the paid journalists, the more I am seeing Sony on the backfoot.

Is that wrong?
Will I lose bubbles for this?

malokevi3843d ago

Once again, N4G gobbling up anonymous info as if it were word of god. Seems to be happening all too often lately...

BattleTorn3843d ago

Geez people make shit up like crazy

Xbox One kiosk don't "kick you off" for trying to access the OS.

The guy has to a full of sh1t fanboy to make things like that up,

I tried. And yeah, the Dev kits don't have much OS on them. You cant go to try to login, cause they don't allow that.

But that's because the demo kits literally don't have te full OS.

Biggest3843d ago

Phil Spencer was asked about the OS and his response was:

There are a ton of videos of games running. The Ryse vidoc from last week... We have SUVs driving around with playables etc.

To which you, BattleTorn, reply that the SUV demo kits don't have the OS. What are you defending here? You can't be defending Phil Spencer. He said that the OS is viewable at the SUV demos. You say that the SUV demos don't have the OS. The question still remains. Where is the OS?

jut4203843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

@ that youtube OS video

that video doesn't actually show anything in the OS working only the ability to boot a game and back out to the Dashboard. The problem with the OS is all the apps aren't functional which is probably what he was talking about when he said it was buggy. Good way to dance around the question while making it sound things are ok by Spencer.

I'm sure they are playing SP and MP lightly but that's probably all their able to do instead of having features with the OS working with the game.

P0werVR3843d ago

Wow, even with the tour, showing of architecture designs, UI and gameplay. People are still trying to so hard when it's so close to bring this down.

REMEMBER!

Microsoft hasn't DELAYED ANYTHING!! What does that tell you?! Very desperate here folks.

"Sony's Adam Boyes"....nuff said, or ANYTHING from NeoGaf.

hakeem09963843d ago

I get a headache everytime i hear about an OS issue bullshit Both PS4 and XboxONe are running right now on old codes .There's a reason why they both will have day one patches and why your console should always have an online source . MS changes and updates his UI on the regular while Sony patches theirs box almost every month.it's nothing new and not news worthy .if you have an old gen console you should be use to these things . Freeezes,reboots and resets won't go away because you changed your consoles .

UnholyLight3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

This comment on the article:

The Sony Droid army is just pulling out all the stops now. I guess its less than a month away when every one lifts up the Ps4 skirt and realize its not carved fro gods toe nail. You know its only launching with 2 major exclusive games made for it.

Now all of a sudden XBL doesnt work,come on. To top it of we have a major figure from MS saying there is no issues. In the real world i will be going with the word of a officer of the company.

In the Sony Circle Jerk they listen to any random village idiot as long as his comment is negative of the X1. And they treated like prophets as they all gather around in the sony circle jerk and handle each other.

Funny thing you got some clown on Twiiter trying to heckle the a high up official then he clowns him. Ryse looks so good they just can believe it is running on real consoles.
-END COMMENT-

-Get real people, I'm getting the PS4 but come on, this is pretty sad. If the "PS4 is really so much better and will outsell the Xbox One by such a large margin" then why are all of these RUMOURS coming out of nowhere.

Use your brains people

Destrania3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Ahh @Jokes, once again making up false information and giving 'jokingly' horrible completely off-base opinions on games. You make me lol so hard. Keep the blindfold on and the ear buds in sir, it seems to be the only way you know how to exist. Literally the entire comment you posted above shows you clearly have no brain. The statement 'yep anybody can write on the internet' is oh so very true.

Death3843d ago

Microsoft bans consoles for accessing games early. You don't think they would notice XBox Ones hit the online service that aren't registered for online use? I'm not sure how much I can disclose, but Microsoft does not allow early access to Live on any console unless it's pre-authorized.

I guess the best way to respond is no, I don't think it's odd we haven't seen footage of Xbox Ones on Live. The consoles online to this point are under heavy NDA. What we have seen in the vids to this point are children of people under NDA that are getting in a lot of trouble.

ZodTheRipper3843d ago

Am I the only one who wants to punch this guy for no reason?

Ritsujun3843d ago

More Xbone180's are coming.

Docknoss3843d ago

Wait rumor is that both PSN and XBL our in need of work, fair and balanced news God Damb it!

ThanatosDMC3843d ago

I wish his background was less white or at least the font color was darker. It was hard to read on my monitor.

UltimateMaster3842d ago

For the love of god.
We don't know anything.
One person says stuff on the internet doesn't make it true and I would tend to agree.
Let's all calm down, sit back, wait until the consoles comes out and then have our toughs on it.
Please.

pixelsword3842d ago

isn't this a duplicate story, which had a part of this in another story?

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Magicite3843d ago

Cant stand this guys face. Always so full of self.

mikeboccher3843d ago

lmao so true. always has that smug ass look on his face.

vigilante_man3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

He has a face only a mother could like..

Back on topic:

# PS4 will have problems at launch and first 6 months.
# XB1 will have more problems at launch and next 6 months.
# XB1 was rushed out and was due for 2014 release originally.
# Games will look way better on XB1/PS4 than 360/PS3.
# PS4 is stronger graphically.

The list could go on and on but lets hope we all have a great time with our next gen consoles this Christmas holiday season. We are paying enough for them!

DoubleM703843d ago

Dude you don't know that man personally. You sound crazy saying stuff like that.

UnholyLight3843d ago

I don't see how confidence in speaking and presenting (something that is a cornerstone of Business and Presenting) comes across as full of himself?

Good to see a guy that believes in the product he is paid to promote.

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DiRtY3843d ago

LoL do you guys still believe in CBoat?

Here are Cboats latest "leaks":

Prior GamesCom / TGS:

- PS4 will launch in late October FALSE
- Xbox One SKU without Kinect in March / April 2014 MAYBE
- Exclusive Xbox One title made by Platinum Games to be shown NOT YET / FALSE
- Microsoft will talk about DRM at GamesCom. There will never be a "rental" strategy. FALSE
- DRM plans are actually worse than what they've [MS] stated. FALSE

Prior E3:

- Mirror's Edge 2 at MS conference. FALSE
- Prince of Persia (reboot?) at MS conference. FALSE
- Dead Rising 3, and exclusive DLC for another Capcom game at MS conference. 1st half RIGHT, 2nd half wrong
- No online paywall for PS4. Unconfirmed. FALSE
- No DRM info for PS4. FALSE

Somewhere in between:

- Xbox One will see a downclocking FALSE

Kayant3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

- "No online paywall for PS4. Unconfirmed. FALSE" Obvousily that's false that said he didn't know anything about online paywall.

- "No DRM info for PS4. FALSE" - There was that #DRM campaign which made Sony decide to highlight DRM stuff in the E3 conference. There's also the fact like above he is just stating that he has no info about DRM on PS4.

These are things he has got right/partially right so far.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Muerte24943843d ago

His words have a lot more weight to them than your do. Okay now go back and list everything he's gotten right. People still don't understand how Neogaf works. If the wrong so much, he'd be banned already. #TruthFacts

lifeisgamesok3843d ago

@Dirty thanks lol CBOAT is a fraud and works for Sony

abc12333843d ago

The trouble with rumours is that if it turns out to not be true, you don't know if it was true at the time but later changed, the announcement has been pushed back, or if it was false altogether.

BBBirdistheWord3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

@ dirty

That's great, thank you.
CBOAT has been lauded as an unassaillable prodigy of truth on the neogaf (Sonygaf?) phenomenon.

In truth, he gets it right about 50% of the time which is the same as VG chartz and Pachter and many other 'reputable' sources.

It reminds me of the old saying 'even a broken clock gets it right twice a day'.

In fact he gets it right about as much as tossing a coin for heads or tails.

With odds like these he should be a stock broker...

It's disturbing how many users on neogaf (sonygaf?) and n4g proudly proclaim his successful predictions, while completely disregarding his concurrent failure predictions.

This is a feature of modern economic and financial behavioural theory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

This website truly is a wonderful study!

XabiDaChosenOne3843d ago

@Dirty
Off of your list and Kayants, Cboat has been correct 18 times vs the 11 times he was wrong according to your list.Thats a 62% average meaning he is getting most of his predictions right. Now if we look a little deeper into your list its easy to tell you are taking predictions out of context.

For example your fourth one under the Prior GamesCom/TGS column stating quote:
- Microsoft will talk about DRM at GamesCom. There will never be a "rental" strategy. FALSE
Ignoring that Microsoft ditched DRM plans after the huge consumer backlash.
Your fifth claim under that column is also fishy since you don't go into detail of how that was wrong.
As for your Prior E3 column there is even more half truths like this one.
- No DRM info for PS4. FALSE
This implies that there was no info for Drm for the PS4 when in fact that original post from Cboat states : ^_^ sonty rapped up tighterrea than Virgin mosquito when on drm istuf. Frustartin!g myinfogloves!
Translation: He could not get any info on the PS4 DRM info no that there wasn't any
http://www.gamespot.com/for...
Dishonesty will not change reality, remember that.

BBBirdistheWord3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

@ kobe

Just saying.
Blind faith in gurus can lead to ruin.
http://www98.griffith.edu.a...

Witness Bernie Maddoff's Ponzie scheme which showed +64% success rate.

Not saying you are outright wrong.
Just saying you are not outright right.
Think about that.

Perhaps you could compile a list of all CBOAT's precictions on 1-2 year's time and we can then use his confirmed track record in analysis of future industry predictions.

At present, CBOAT's stats are none too good, for a self proclaimed insider that has no track record. even in the future, we would need to scrutinise his performance in much the same way that Maddoff's performance was not scrutinised, unfortunately.

There's a lesson in that.

JokesOnYou3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Good stuff Dirty dont forget about the "yeild issues" and "downclock" BS. Also for those saying hes right "sometimes" how stupid is that #1 yeah understandably anybody could be wrong because companys make changes to plans but for a so called "microsoft insider" should be spot on almost everytime....with his record 25% of the folks on n4g are insiders too. #2 The things he gets right are vague common sense predictions that will most likely happen if you follow gaming and have just a bit of deductive reasoning skills. Hell heres how it goes both consoles will launch with OS and game bugs and glitches that require patches. Both will have launch day problems for some trying to connect. Both will have some surprise features we didnt expect or that work differently than 1st thought.= Now write that in half azz cryptic lingo= BAM! Im Nostradamus. Post to neogaf watch how easily the "followers" are amazed.

=CBoat is a sonyfanboy poser.

H0RSE3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

@Kobe

"Off of your list and Kayants, Cboat has been correct 18 times vs the 11 times he was wrong according to your list.Thats a 62% average meaning he is getting most of his predictions right..."

So essentially, you are saying that his predictions are about as "successful" as prayer...Yeah, that's impressive...

imt5583843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Somewhere in between:

- Xbox One will see a downclocking FALSE

CBOAT never mentioned about downclocking. It's cam right from MS mouth. You remember that MS was said that bandwith is 204 GB/s, a this happened :

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Suddenly 192 GB/s. And those who know about RAM and bandwith technology with simple math came to downclock.

- PS4 will launch in late October FALSE
No online paywall for PS4. Unconfirmed. FALSE
- No DRM info for PS4. FALSE

CBOAT said before that he is not Sony insider.

Have you consider that MS does not need to download Day One patch to remove DRM from XO? XO OS is unstable because removing DRM. But DRM is very deep in XO system and it will be hard to remove that thing. Maybe MS will not be able to remove DRM entirely.

Magicite3843d ago

But he was also right about some things, You didnt mention those intentionally.

H0RSE3843d ago

@imt558

"...But DRM is very deep in XO system and it will be hard to remove that thing. Maybe MS will not be able to remove DRM entirely."

- consoles have been using DRM aspects for many years now. This is why you need the disk in the drive to play games or why you can't play burnt games.

Kayant3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

@JokesOnYou

The yield issues are real expect you want to them me how they can go from 23 countries pre DRM to 13 after their 180s. This obviously means that they knew demand was not going to be that high with their initial policies which is why they launched in so more countries to gather good sales but suddenly after removing all their policies (No DRM/kinect required) with 3x the interest they obviously cannot meet demand now.

The evidence is there with the PS4 having a bigger interest & more demand they are able to launch in more countries(32).

Expect you have an explanation as to why MS scaled back from 23 to 13.

The downclocks were obviously wrong.

Also how is he a Sony fanboy when most if not all is info on PS has been wrong but his info on MS has been right often.

abc12333843d ago

@jokesonyou: I'd like to see 25% of N4G users post part of a trailer 2.5 months before it's released to the public.

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Back-to-Back3843d ago

MS's mentality. Make a generalized statement and hope its enough to keep the fanboys from worrying. This has rrod 2.0 written all over it.

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PFFT3843d ago

RLOD 1.0

Or the many system crashes at expos or the Live Tv, LIVE TV failure while trying out the Eyetoy over at Tokyo Gameshow.

isa_scout3843d ago

Yeah it's pretty strange that he says they're playing the games nightly, but no one said the games didn't work. He was questioned about the OS and Live issues, and instead of answering them he deflected with, "Anyone can put stuff on the internet."

This isn't a PS4vsOne thing, and I sincerly hope they get things running smoothly for the One before launch for all the Xbox users. I'm starting to wonder if MS announced the XOne to soon to try to keep pace with Sony.
Sadly in this day and age a new peice of Tech always launches with issues. What the hell is going on with MS and Sony??? SNES,Genesis,PS1,PS2,Xbox all those older systems launched just fine, but now we need day one patches for EVERYTHING, even our brand new next-gen systems.

Pogmathoin3843d ago

Well, it is a new week for the fanboys... Should be an interesting one, as we enter November. Maybe X1 should have launched last December, would have been easy to blame it for the end of the world... Then of course Sony would have saved us all...

Aceman183843d ago

Man I miss Jay, Seamus, and Shane they were really likable personalities for the company and I could usually take them at face value.

This new crew I just can't stand at least the main one left now hoping the rest bounce.

This OS issue is rather strange as I wouldn't expect this from a software company which is their bread & butter.

Mike134nl3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Lets wait till after launch. Its better and kinda expected to have some software problems before launch than after the launch.

2cents3843d ago

I physically played for over 4hours on the Xbox One last Friday. While I can't comment on Xbox live, I can say that out of 9 Xbox's that I played on, all booted into the OS and back to the game without a glitch. I saw people pissing around with menus and trying to get into every screen much to the annoyance of the reps. All real xbox's, all real games, all real fun (except zoo tycoon).

I came away VERY impressed and totally confident in the ability of 'The One'.

MrCastle3843d ago

What's up with zoo tycoon?

2cents3843d ago

The framerate was really choppy with loads of slowdown and hanging. The graphics were no better than current gen in most areas. Only the animal close ups had a slight wow factor. Overall I just didn't really enjoy it, but in fairness this isn't a pickup and play game, it demands your time to really get into it, besides I just couldn't stop playing Ryse! It was bloody amazing!

MAULxx3842d ago

I'm glad you enjoyed it but it is forever a "Xbone".

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jmac533843d ago

Interesting how they come out and deny these rumors but not a peep regarding the 720p games.

Real_gamer3843d ago

Nobody asked for ur opinion why don't u just go and comment on ur fav console which is ps4 and stop trolling on any articles about Xbox one

Majin-vegeta3843d ago

You sound mad want a cookie??

XboxFun3843d ago

So an internet rumor pops up from unnamed sources and a direct MS representative shoots them down as false and N4G claims they don't believe MS and of course they would deny it.

And yet N4G always are the first to demand MS make a statement to other rumors from unnamed sources....Why?

When none of you will believe anything MS says. This is the true "SMH" moment I find with these comments from sony fanboys.

jessupj3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

"And yet N4G always are the first to demand MS make a statement to other rumors from unnamed sources....Why?"

I guess MS fanboys are just perfectly happy to bend over and blindly accept anything MS offers then, eh?

But I don't know if you noticed, but it appears it was an xbox fan demanding answers. N4G are just posting the story.

And I guess you have very bad reading comprehension because Phil did NOT debunk these rumors. He only mentioned the games were running fine, but the issues were the OS and some of the online interactivity, which he completely skipped.

It seems like every time you open your mouth to defend MS you say something stupid.

Yesterday I honestly though these rumors weren't true. Now after Phil has skipped the question and bailed when the questions got even more tough, I think there might be some truth to it.

I feel bad for anyone that had a good thorough look at all the facts and came to the objective conclusion that the xbone is right for them. I don't feel bad for you though.

What are you going to do if all these bad rumors are true? Keep blindly defending MS I presume?

Ps4Console3843d ago

All this Xbox One bashing I really don't want to hear it it's flamebaiting I just want good news on Ps4 games .

TheXgamerLive3843d ago

Mistakes? Yes. Lies? None. MS has done nothing but be up front and forthcoming about everything Xbox One.
So, if anyone's lieing its been sony fans and if any company has been with holding information it's Sony

Xbox One OS/XBL has been testing this same basic set up for almost 17 months and Its near impossible to believe this story. Admittingly Sony and MS both will be testing and tweaking up til launch and that tweaking does not a story make.

NextGen24Gamer3843d ago

true stoery. my brother in law is a game tester for xbox one. he said today that cod ghost looks amazing. i asked him if it was 720p and he said he doesnt know but he said it looks 1300p. he said that that the graphics will blow people away. he said forza is flawless. he said nba 2k14 is amzing and he said ryse is stunning. he did say he didnt really like the gameplay and he was halfway through the game. it has 13 chapters. he said his job is to report bugs etc....and he said all the games he has played are amazing. oh...he did say that in his opinion dead rising doesnt stand up graphically to the forementioned games but still looks good. he gets to play battle field tomorrow. on the 22nd everyone will know the truth. and he got me even more excited than i already was. oh....he said online is flawless and he thinks the xbox one will easily surpass everyones expectations.

moparful993842d ago (Edited 3842d ago )

I know you either you or your brother in law is lying because gane testers dont play a game in its entirety.. They are assigned sections or chapters and they play that chunk as many times as possible to help expose glitches and bugs...
Ohh and your brother can be fired for saying anything because all testers sign non disclosure agreements...

Here's my proof
http://m.ign.com/articles/2...

NextGen24Gamer3842d ago

not lying. it depends on company u work.

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black0o3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

nice to see MS speaking up .. NOW lets deal with The Elephant in the Room

what about the COD/BF res?

BoriboyShoGUN3843d ago

Might as well right! Shit if your talking go ahead and clear up all the BS for your fans. Even though most of the main stream clowns arent keeping up with all this anyways. I think those people that are set on purchasing a Xbox are going to regardless! We'll just have to see if they end up getting screwed or not.

n4rc3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

They are sticking to their word.. No disclosure on 3rd party games

Even when this rumor first hit, they stayed quiet while other Deva came out and said their x1 games are at 1080..

I know my view might not be the best route.. But I feel they don't need to dignify these stupid rumors with a response

Edit for below..

Your twisting facts... He was told HE didn't need to know by his 3rd party manager.. Penello never said that to the public.

pyramidshead3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

"I know my view might not be the best route"

I'll say! How easy would it be to debunk this via twitter with actual concise wording that addresses the concerns? Not long, they've been using twitter to provide info or gloat features or game announcements ever since May.

I agree they don't want to dignify EVERY rumour with an answer but the reses of games and OS issues are pretty big 'rumours', which are consequently causing more ill thinking. Why would they want to suffer more 'negative opinion' on top of what they already have experienced? That makes literally no sense what so ever.
"Xbox, are such & such 720p? Because that's not ideal :(.
Consumer, no need to worry that rumour is false, the games are confirmed native 1080 :)!"

They either 'don't know' or don't want to say. Either way it just indirectly confirms concerns.

Take the Driveclub delay rumour, Sony said nothing on the issue, the dev 'Rushy' said he 'didn't know' and it ended up being true and Sony came out and confirmed it not long after. Ironic actually because the same dude who leaked the OS issues is the same dude who confirmed the Driveclub delay ;) and I bet you believed that one.

People are also claiming Sony are having OS issues from the same sources, and I believe those too.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
^ for anyone who's interested.

MightyNoX3843d ago

What COD/BF res are you talking about? All I remember is Penello waving his hand saying "You don't need to know about COD re---"

*goes into trance*

I...I don't need to know about COD res. I can go about my business. Move along.

black0o3843d ago

lol penello is kinda a joke some times .. spencer is the only one that i take his words out of all xbone teams

Gazondaily3843d ago

I suspect that if 'the elephant in the room' is dealt with, fanboys will move the goalposts to something else.

Rivitur3843d ago

Yeah probably best for MS's biggest problem right now be Res rather than something bigger even though Res is very important either way MS is screwed.

Volkama3843d ago

The COD rumour can go 2 ways

-It's true, the game runs at 720p.
Microsoft confirm it, the internet runs wild with confirmation that the PS4 has the best COD and the news may even reach people that play COD (that "non-core gamer" Rubin talks about).

-It's false, the game runs at 1080p
Microsoft confirm it, a few 'insiders' go quiet for a couple of minutes before finding something else to speculate on.

It is quite possible the rumour is accurate, it's come from numerous sources hasn't it? But the way I see it they're better off keeping quiet in either case, unless the rumour threatens to hit a bigger audience than the confirmation would.

black0o3843d ago

it's more like 1st scenario i guess or MS is hopping for IW to improve it to 900p or get it to 1080p

abc12333843d ago

No it's not best if they keep quiet in the second scenario. If these people are making stuff up then MS keeping quiet isn't going to stop them making something else up in the meantime. MS is allowing Sony to score some PR points which is stupid. Its very likely now that COD's resolution is lower on the X1 but they're still trying to improve it before launch.

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sAVAge_bEaST3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

What happens if you start a Pay Wall- only to offer nothing. While H\ood winking your customers into think they are getting a "1st class experience."

-KARMA-

Death3843d ago

Tired and worn out argument/complaint.

If you are paying to play online on either console a pay wall doesn't exist. If you only want to play online with your friends on PS4 and didn't see the value of Plus, the only thing you get with your $50 is online multiplayer unlocked. Everything else is "free", but you pay $50. The only thing behind the "paywall" is online play. It was free for over a decade, but now it's $50.

On Xbox One if you want to play online it is $60. With that you get all the bs that is "free" on the PS4. If you are an online gamer and subscribe to the service you get much more than online unlocked.

I'm fairly certain free access to Netflix isn't going to sway people over to the PS4, but if that helps you sleep at night I guess there is no harm in it.

Stick893843d ago

Considering of course that the PS3 is one of the most widely used Netflix streaming devices.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

I think that is a huge point in PS4's favor.

Death3843d ago

That was a year ago. Smart TV's are saturating the market very quickly and Netflix is easily accessed straight from those tvs. Just about every Blu-ray player and new DVD player have the same functions. You can get a Roku player for under $50 that does it too.

How many people do you honestly think have high speed internet, an HDTV, are buying a new console at launch and don't plan on subscribing to either service? You think there are many hardcore early adopters that don't play online do you?

Stick893843d ago

"one of the most" and yes I do realize the article is a year old. It doesn't make what I said any less true.

To counter your point earlier though, a paywall does still exist. Believe it or not there are people out there who couldn't care less about multiplayer gaming but would like to be able to access other online features a console has such as netflix or game streaming.

H0RSE3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

@Stick89

""one of the most" and yes I do realize the article is a year old. It doesn't make what I said any less true."

- No, but it does make it less relevant.

"To counter your point earlier though, a paywall does still exist. Believe it or not there are people out there who couldn't care less about multiplayer gaming but would like to be able to access other online features a console has such as netflix or game streaming."

- And many of those people are simply going to watch Netflix on other devices, like PC's and the ones mentioned above. I have been subscribed to XBL since the original xbox, and I never utilize any of the apps, like Netflix, or the radio streaming apps or anything else - I use my PC for all of that. Even full movies both downloaded and played from my blu-ray drive, are played on my PC and watched on my TV.

And before you go into the impracticality of using your PC for all these things, do a Google search for "HTPC."

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badkolo3843d ago

more rumors, more lies proven false, i love how rumors get so much traction these days

Riderz13373843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Sorry but, how is the rumor proven false with his reply? The rumours are of a buggy OS and he's talking about playing Single player games...?

badkolo3843d ago

look around, xbox os dev already replied, ghost is 900p, bf4 is 900p, there were issues with os months ago, thats all ironed out. so yeah its proven false

n4rc3843d ago

Yeah.. All those unconfirmed rumors huh?

Soooo..... Spencer says something and its a lie.. What a fkn shocker!

So when rumors of ps4 issues come about.. Sonys word is all you need to ignore it..

Classic n4g

abc12333843d ago

@badkolo: sources please?

Drekken3843d ago

Badkolo another MS die hard claims these rumors have been proven false and then tries to convince us that the resolutions for COD and BF have been confirmed at 900p. A little news for you buddy... 900p is not good or confirmed. Brace yourself for 720p. It will be a cold winter for you.

ziggurcat3843d ago

@ badkolo:

proof CoD & BF4 are 900p on xbone, please.

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MightyNoX3843d ago

Just how the rumors started flying that Microsoft would do an always online console that restricts used games and requires 24 authentication proved false during the Adam Orth hubbub....Oh laawwddy, those Sony Ponies got an egg on their face during the Xbox One reveal.

Oh wait...

ALLWRONG3843d ago (Edited 3843d ago )

Xbox rumors are always true because Sony fanboys say so. Just wait for a while and it all comes back to bite them in the a$$ like this http://n4g.com/news/1381521... and this http://n4g.com/news/1381453... Sony fanboys do a pretty good job digging their own graves.

MightyNoX3843d ago

Difference being, you can switch on PS4 without the patch. Conversely, Xbox One's patch is required for you to play.

In baby terms:

Day 1 - No internet

PS4: Works
Xbox One: Doesn't work

Troll smarter, not harder. Snrkt :D

Kayant3843d ago

And we are done here until launch day to see if any of this is true.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest6d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN5d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan5d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor5d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic5d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv725d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts5d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares6d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv726d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka5d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion6d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer6d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow15d ago (Edited 5d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer5d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar6d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn6d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18816d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast6d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning776d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole5d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning776d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning775d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast5d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning775d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast5d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv726d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes6d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7211d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio10d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7710d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv729d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19929d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218310d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan10d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit9d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2310d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7210d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier9d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan9d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple10110d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-10d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic10d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead10d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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