According to an industry insider, Battlefield 4 will run at 900p on the PlayStation 4.
Damn, after so much shit slinging smh, still doesn't matter though, gameplay >>> everything else
Agreed brotha! The feel and fun of a game is more important than number of pixels anyday!
Lazy developers aren't my friend.
Some people honestly have turn this resolution thing into something silly and not really worth arguing over.
I agree it's not worth arguing over, but the differences between 720p, 900p and 1080p are very noticeable. I don't understand the logic some of you have. If you buy a machine with the ability to do something, and someone doesn't make use of that because they're lazy, you think it's all good gravy? lol that's some silly goose logic right there.
Consoles are just going to launch. We are talking about cross-generation games (not even a real launch game), and people are demanding 1080p? Get real, developers haven't had proper time with either console. If this was 2020 and still couldn't get 1080p, then by all means get upset. Since when a launch game is considered to make great technological accomplishments? It's like people were demanding The Last of Us performance in Resistance Fall of Man. It's absurd!
According to the same leaker. COD is 1080p on PS4 and 720p on Xbox One. Both are experiencing frame rate issues.
I'm sick of this 900P crap. I know my TV has a 720P setting and a 1080P setting. I hope this doesn't become the standard.
I don't understand why many of you guys have given BOTH Microsoft and Sony a pass on this. I am still amazed that these companies in conjunction with AMD were not able to build a Console that could play ALL GAMES at 1080p/60. Heck... at the very least they should do 1080p/30 because thats the industry standard for HDTV. I was going to buy a PS4 after it's been out to make sure there were no bugs but now it's looking like i'm going to pass on both systems unless a game comes along that I absolutely must have.
it should be 1080p. i mean cmon yall had 7 years, SEVEN YEARS. i bought a 1080p tv for a reason SEVEN YEARS ago... we saw a bunch of 1080p games This gen. yeah gameplay>resolution but our stuff costs a lot of money AND THESE HIGH-END DEVS MAKE PLENTY OF MONEY. i can see smaller devs not hitting 1080 but Come On....
@Andrew, exactly. If we are okay and settle for this 900p standard companies will be happy to keep it coming.
so sick of this... just launch already! this war is worse than reality tv... so glad when its over. in real gameing new me and a few of my n4g homies are starting a bf4/cod/nba2k/kz squad up on ps4. all can join we will all friend up and roll out if any gamer on n4g wanna squad up pm me.
I kind of agree. 720p really is awful resolution to enjoy anything at, but the 900p is just fine. And I doubt that we will see a huge dif. between the two. But 720 is dead imo.
Another resolution disparity The good thing is one year from now the console wars will cool down because by then the PS4 will settle the issue of console power and sales, and the arguments will shift to discussing individual games
I can't understand why it had to be (if true) 900p, I mean Killzone Shadowfall is a much better looking game and it's running at 1080p with a solid ~40-45 frame rate. From the looks of it, this generation will be the generation of exclusive titles once again when it comes to impressive visuals.
900p at 60fps is definitely acceptable, pixels may not be everything but it's nice to not have the image stretched as far. I'm okay with 900p-1080p but seeing any game release on PS4 at 720p would be somewhat disappointing considering the plethora of other titles that are all 1080p already.
I can't believe that people are such fanboys trying to downplay resolution. For those that think it isn't a big deal take a look at digitalfoundry BF4 beta comparisons, they also have some nice shots of the game running at 720/900/1080p resolutions. If you can't see a big difference between 900p and 1080p then your fine but I sure as hell can. I'll be getting this on my PS4 but it is a damn shame if it isn't in 1080p a damn shame indeed... http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
Seriously guys, this news in regards to xbox wit Ryse received so much hate. Now it is gameplay>graphics. You guys need help seriously.
All this resolution rumor crap lately is getting annoying but come on guys. You can't give Crytek sh_t about Ryse 900p but let BF4 @900p slide cause its Sony. Admitedly it's prolly a false rumor and it prolly will be hard to see the difference on your tv anyway but come on.. All in all both consoles are gonna be great can we leave it at that.
^^ Dude, Ryse is an exclusive. It should showcase what platform is capable of.
This is hilarious^^ You people really are the drones, sorry, but this is unbelieveable, what I am hearing right now. Bashing the Wii U for being bad hardware, bashing the Xbox1 for being bad hardware, why? Because they didnt run every game on 1080p. Now your precious PS4 isnt even able, even though you guys said, that every single game on PS4 at launch will be 1080p. I dont know what to think anymore. With games becoming even more resource hungry in the near future, I dont see them performing with higher resolutions then now. Wii U got mere ports of third party games, but I thought, that the PS4 will get no port, it will get a fully optimized version... what a disappointment. Shame on all of you haters, for bashing everything and now we all know, that PS4 doesnt perform like the godmaschine, you all acted it is like. Bashing Wii U for gamplay>graphics, now you do the same thing, sad, really sad. Just like everyone is saying, Nintendo should get rid of the Gamepad, because it stinks, but on the article on how well the Vita is implemented as second screen gaming controller for PS4, you all went nuts over it, like Sony were innovating the whole industry. I dont have any respect anymore for you guys, sorry, but that was it.
Dude. These are launch games. I don't expect flawless 1080p graphics on day one from every developer right out of the gate. Considering new game engines. Lack of optimization, Lots of code not fully entangled into the extra compute power. There are lots of reasons. In a year or so 1080p will get a big boast. Considering most of them had 6-9 months at most to build and optimize before launch.
@snipab8t: Ryse is an exclusive game against BF4 not only being multiplatform but also cross gen (developing for 1 platform vs. developing for 5). Also Ryse isn't running at 60fps right?
2Chrischi1988: What is hilarious is the hypocrisy! When Xbox One or Wii U has low resolution, it is PS4 is the best thing since slice bread and graphcis really matter guys! When the PS4 isn't up to snuff, rumor is false, lazy developers or graphics no longer matter! Go figure! I'm just going to enjoy these consoles for what they are, not up to par with PC graphics, because that isn't as important to me as features and ease of access!
It's EA 's fault that bf4 is 900p on ps4, not Sony.
"I agree it's not worth arguing over, but the differences between 720p, 900p and 1080p are very noticeable." Yes, without any further processing they are. However the upscalers in these consoles will minimize the difference. That's why MS says the xbox one has the best upscaler ever made.
Poor console gamers still no 1080p. Meanwhile PC gamers move on to 4k gaming rofl. So they lose BC from previous gen, pay more per game and they seem happy about it. Console gaming is so expensive rofl. Wonder where all the PS4 = high end PCz chanting went lol. Oh yes down the gutter just where it belongs.
I give Dice the benefit of the doubt and say their primary goal is 60fps. We'll see. I'd rather prefer the higher resolution - at least in the way KZ handles it for the campaign. MP I could probably understand. Eventually Dice will hit full resolution - which is the first for a PS4 game which doesn't, isn't it? Not really a milestone you want to be first at now. w/e. Can't get a PS4 at launch, might as well get this for the PS3 and upgrade later.
This may be developer inexperience, but also I wonder if one version is holding back the other; one has a bunch of 1080p games, the other, not so much. I think everyone who puts out a sub-1080p game needs to explain themselves because they can't achieve something on new consoles that has been done on old consoles.
wtf ?? every shit site getting their hit leeches from neogaf. next week we will see. and if the ps4 version is 1080p like another rumour and xb1 version is 720p, then f'ck it, i will be passing a generation without halo/forza etc this is disgrace if true.
@DeadlyFire: 1.They use X86 Architecture, which makes it a lot easier to develop for. 2.The use of GDDR5 gives the console pretty much raw power, raw power means, it should work well, even without the special optimizations. 3.Unlike Wii U, it doesnt get a bad ports of a Xbox360 game. 4.The way things are now, I do not see, how they will make games a lot better in the future, this is not like the PS3 with a Cell processor, which people need to first figure out as much, they need to figure out, but there wont be a difference, like the beginning of PS3 and the end of PS3, thats more a thing, one could expect from the Wii U, because of their PowerPC Design. 5. On PCs, everyone has a different Hardware setup, still they managed it to run 1080p on midrange graphicscard. PS4s setup is pretty obvious, on what to do, to make a game actually work well. I dont know what to tell you, but this is pretty disappointing, especially, after what I got to hear from all the PS4 fans, on how much of a serotonin boost the console will give you...
@snipab8t Okay then, Ryse has abysmally boring gameplay too. 900p with small closed off levels/areas with slow moving events/action pieces. So meh graphics and gameplay is good then?
@AndrewLB The new consoles CAN run games at 1080P/60fps, but saying they should be able to run ALL games at that is naive. Texture detail and effects play a part...it's a balancing act. There are 3 areas to balance: detail/effects, resolution, and frame rate. Increasing one means the others take a hit. That said, BF4 shouldn't have a problem based on what I've seen...the PS4 GPU is more than sufficient to crush this game (again, based on what I've seen of it).
Still better than the Xbox One's 720p. Getting it on PC, of course.
900p or 720p honestly shouldn't even matter so long as you're able to play the game you love.
Overall, this is rediculous if its true. People, let the hating begins but its all about commonsence. Last gen is last gen, but when i'm buying a new system, it should be worth it. Yes 1080p do matter, not 720p or 900p. If that were the case, then i'll stick to last gen. All this hype is about nothing, if EA/Dice is one of those companies who is actually castrating the PS4 because of publicy then if that's the case i would just cancel my pre-orders and build a PC.
Meknsense, 900p does matter and is clearly better than 720p. For example, open this on a new tab: http://cdn2.dualshockers.co... and then open this one on a separate tab: http://cdn.dualshockers.com... Look at the 720p version for a few moments, then switch to the 900p version. You should notice that the 900p version has: 1. grass that looks more vibrant 2. flag and decals on the gun are clearer 3. less jaggies everywhere, especially noticeable on the cement 4. glove is more detailed
pretty sad if that's all you care about
Anything is better than 720p lol. Apparently it's going to be around for a while for one console.
Unless your tv is larger than 40 inches the human eye cannot tell the difference between 720p or 1080p, and with the upscaling it makes it even more difficult. But, the fact is with the gpu and 8gb of memory, 1080p should easily be standard. I can let it go somewhat with the first launch titles, but no excuse for any others, especially when Killzone is 1080p at launch.
900p isn't so bad as long as the framerate is rock solid at 60. Framerate is key for shooters. If this was an exclusive, people would be right to demand 1080p, though
I'm fully with you on that man. These are just things I have to write about. Either way, it's going to look great and I can't wait to play it on my Xbox One!
Well if this turns out true people will have field day.
When console gamers get bad news on graphics like resolutions and graphic setting levels they pull out the gameplay card FAIL
Not only that, but then the card is suddenly OK to play. Wii U fans, like me, said it before, but got bashed by all the fans of their respective platform and what now? I cannot even put it into words...
http://www.oxm.co.uk/64205/... They talk themselves up when they should't. Yea they got the balls to make the pc version superior BUT they hold back when it comes to consoles because they don't want one to be better than the other? yea they didn't chose the cowards way out /s
Actually BF4 on X1 is rumored to be 720p.
@Alexious keyword rumored, how about we wait for an official statement.
"Battlefield 4 to run at 900p on PS4" If this is true, then dammm.... not even the PS4 can do 1080p on games decently. Next gen gaming consoles are starting to suck. Every game should be standard 1080p with 60fps in next gen consoles. If not, then the consoles aren't powerful enough.
Killzone: Shadow Fall seems to do just fine. BF4 is pretty much locked 60fps on consoles, which is quite impressive in itself.
Whew that's a relief. It's a good thing I don't play pixelcounter deluxe. I just play the game itself.
These are just the launch window games. I expect some optimization moving forward can put the very same game engine up to 1080 or so at least on the PS4 with some positive effects on other console resolution as well. I guess we will see with Mirror's Edge 2, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Battlefront, and so on though.
Compare Resistance Fall of Man to The Last of Us. Now look at the PS4 launch games and tell me games in the future wont look better. If games aren't 1080p now or 60fps, they will be in the future. So your last point, next gen (in the future) will more than likely be 1080p 60fps. Just look at how this gen panned out.
To be fair killzone does not have destructable enviroments, levolution and a whole lot of physics going on. Maybe we have alleged 900P/720P because DICE spread themselves too thinly trying to get the X1/PS4 versions out in time for launch, as well as optimizing the X360/PS3 versions of BF4. I would expect their next attempt in BF5 to 1080P on consoles , but given that MS had not finalized their hardware until recently and still are behind on their dev tools as well as the fact they they still had to learn to use the X1 and PS4 and get a game ready for launch...I cant fault them.
True, but better graphics >>> worse graphics
You can say whatever you want but the fan-boys are but hurt. Oh no PS4 is the most powerful console how come it can not do 1080p? Well you have been brainwashed that's why. Nothing against you man, just a statement here.
well, PS4 IS the most powerful console but that doesn't mean that is without limits ... but you are just butthurt Xbone fanboy making statement here, right?
900p > 720p my friend. If you want to shit on 900p, however, we can just discuss Ryse vs every PS4 exclusive running at native 1080p. ;)
HAHAHAHA its all about TEH GAMEPLAYZ now is it. Funny because when Xbone was doing 720 and you thought the PS4 was doing 1080 you all about TEH GRAPHICZZZZ 2 Faced Piss Stinking Sony Peasants.
lol your mother must be proud...smh BTW, fun fact of the day: some people think it matters and some don't. Amazing, huh? Different opinions among the fans of a brand you detest so much - whodathunkit?! Just a suggestion: MAYBE the people you're referring to haven't changed their minds. MAYBE it's different people saying it doesn't matter. Take your time on this, it will be tricky for you to grasp. As for me? I'm playing the waiting game. There's so much nonsense and vitriol - even from the journalists - that we can't possibly separate the wheat from the chaff, so why try? Wait and see, it's the sensible thing to do. ;)
You must be very happy in life.
Wow Joe. You really make yourself seem quite irrational and immature. If you read the whole thing, there's still no word on XB1's BF4 resolution. 900p > 720p so this news changes nothing really. It's interesting that he says both machines have framerate issues with CoD:G, yet only tells the resolution for PS4's version of BF4. Also, why do you accept this news from an anonymous source but not others? Could it be... hypocrisy?
@joe90 Are you really 23 years old?? That's hilarious.. and despicable.. Grow up child.
theres still a noticable difference between 900p and 720p..lets not act like there isnt
you sony fans are a true bunch of hypocrites. When it's a Xbox One game that is lesser then 1080p the xbox is just a weak console. However when it's your beloved PS4 with a game less then 1080p it's the dev who are just lazy. Can you say brainwashed?
Someone must be brainwashed if they think that EA wouldn't gimp the PS4 version so as to not piss MS off (or at MS request to not make the X1 720p look so bad) since the two of them have been in bed together for years. You have to admit, that is a very real possibility. And it will clearly show if other 3rd party devs start to produce PS4 games at 1080p and EA continue to claim they can only eek out 900p. They will only make themselves look bad in the end. For now, I don't care one way or the other. But EA have gimped Sony versions of games in the past, so it wouldn't surprise me if they were doing it now.
no battlefield for me then
Face it. The PS4 and Xbone are both less than impressive. Should have spent a little more and got some better hardware. I would have paid 50-100 dollars more for a system that can easily do 1080 60FPS.
this is so funny watching kids cry since every one elce is doing it i will start some flame xbox one battlefield looks better than ps4 as stated by alot of people that played the game on both systems
Sorry to.this.lazy.developers but.my.money.will.go.only to.1080p/60 fps games this.next gen if.i.want to.play 720p games I'll do.it.on my.ps3