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Microsoft demonstrates Halo 4 streaming from the cloud to Windows and Windows Phones

TheVerge:

Microsoft is building its own cloud gaming service. Company officials demonstrated a prototype of the service during an internal company meeting today. Sources familiar with the meeting revealed to The Verge that Microsoft demonstrated Halo 4 running on a Windows Phone and PC, both streaming the game from the cloud. We're told that the concept service runs smoothly on both devices, and that Microsoft has managed to reduce the latency on a Lumia 520 to just 45ms.

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wtopez3864d ago

This game should be released on PC...

JokesOnYou3864d ago (Edited 3864d ago )

"According to a report from The Verge, Microsoft held 'internal meetings' today in which it showed the 343 Industries shooter - currently only available for Xbox 360 - running on Windows-powered phone and PC devices as part of a demonstration of a new and as-yet unnamed 'prototype' cloud technology."

-Maybe it will. Whats interesting is this use of the cloud and the potential benefits of this new "prototype cloud technology" if this is legit. As much as some say the cloud is all PR smoke from micro, I think it will prove to be a great resource for gaming in a variety of ways.

Bigpappy3864d ago

Hopefully they could use it to let me play my digital collection from 360 on my X1. That would be a neat gift that I would very much appreciate.

NatureOfLogic3864d ago

Sony have Gaikai which was doing this before Sony even bought them. MS saying that the cloud will improve graphics is PR smoke. Cloud gaming is nothing new. Fanboys only pay attention to things that have been around for awhile when their favorite company speak of it. MS is hyping old news. So, yes It's PR smoke.

NateCole3864d ago

streaming games from the cloud is nothing new. Heard of onlive and Gaikai?.

malokevi3864d ago (Edited 3864d ago )

@natureoflogic

Halo 4 being streamed to a smartphone using azure... PR smoke?!

I'm not even sure how to respond to that...

UltimateMaster3864d ago

Yeah, Sony announced they were going to be able to stream their games on smart phones at their reveal using Gaikai.

AngelicIceDiamond3864d ago (Edited 3864d ago )

E3 2014 maybe?

That would be a great event to showcase this. That is if they fully come through with it.

EDIT: Logic failed, and failed hard on that entire statement, Seriously you should erase that and try again lol wow.

@Nate Yeah we know its nothing new nobody here said anything about it being new or anything.

Evilsnuggle3864d ago (Edited 3864d ago )

Jokes steaming games is not new nor does it improve graphics over standard Internet. It send info and buffers like a video on online with buffering enough lanetcy can be over come. Steaming games is not improving games are real time and have bandwidth and latency restrains no matter what microSCAM says. its not possible over standard Internet. I have read alot of networking web site articles explaining why it not possible over standard Internet
In real time you have to send info the GPU not CPUs that microscam have has to process then send back to you before the next frame of a game over and over again. Not possible over standard Internet also Microscam owners or as cloud CPU bank not GPU bank.

gamertk4213864d ago (Edited 3864d ago )

@evil Steaming games may not be ideal, but they do retain more vitamins and nutrients that way.

n4rc3864d ago

@evil

You have little to no clue what you are talking about..

Cloud processing is a data stream.. 1s and 0s.. Bandwidth has little to do with what they are advertising.

If you can stream a full game in real time then how the hell cant you stream cloud computed instructions for the console to process locally.. Rather then use up local resources to do the calculations..

Save your fanboy rants and move along

AngelicIceDiamond3864d ago

This is a very modest comment thread here except for a few fanboys but that's nothing compared to this.

http://n4g.com/comments/red... Seems to me Xbox fans are way more mature than the other fanbase.

Is it immature that I brought this up? Sure but the comments are such night and day I had to compare.

WeAreLegion3864d ago

Xbox fans are more mature?!? Both groups are equally immature. It's not like two completely different groups of people chose Sony or Microsoft. They're all the same. Go to a Driveclub YouTube video. Go to a Forza 5 YouTube video. Horrible trolling from both sides is present.

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TheFamous13864d ago

But that would make too much sense and Microsoft doesn't know what the fuck they are doing.

Bundi3864d ago

All these billions in profit they keep making has been dumb luck?

jmc88883863d ago (Edited 3863d ago )

Well Windows and DOS wasn't created by Microsoft, so yeah, I'd say that it was dumb luck they acquired those franchises. Because basically they ARE Microsoft. Everything else that came after is because of that.

Not dumb as in they didn't know what they were doing was going to be very profitable, but dumb as in someone was dumb enough to let go of Windows and DOS and Microsoft was the beneficiary of some moron allowing them to buy it.

As for Office, it was always MS response to Applesoft.

So yeah, I'd say most of their business IS dumb luck.

Shadowsteal3864d ago

Microsoft has cloud gaming through Azure
Sony has cloud gaming through Gaikai

Here's the difference

Eventually both services will hit phones and tablets. For Sony the most comfortable boxes to stream to would be the PS4, PS3, PS Vita TV, and above all the PS Vita. Why? Controllers we all love and buttons we love pushing.

For it to be viable to work on Microsoft's front they need to create something to allow customers to use a controller or make their version of PS Vita Tv. Because Halo 4 with touch screen controls? Ew don't make me barf.

Software_Lover3864d ago

......... You can use wired/wireless 360/XBone controllers on any windows device that has a USB port.

As far as cell phones go, you are right. They will need to come up with a solution. But to be honest, I'm not streaming those types of games to my cell phone in the first place.

mhunterjr3864d ago (Edited 3864d ago )

"Microsoft's demonstration included a Windows Phone with a Xbox controller attached through an accessory"

That's the best solution as they already have attachments that can work with most cell phones. I also wouldn't be surprised to see a iPhone controller styleperipheral eventually

DeadlyFire3864d ago

You are forgetting Sony also mentioned the PC As does Microsoft.

Basically if your a PC gamer in about 1-4 years you will be getting Xbox and Playstation exclusives tied into Cloud services available to play at your desk or on your phone. Win/win for PC community if they have bandwidth.

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Stuntz3864d ago

uh oh Microsoft is about to hit a homerun. Sorry fellas but Azure is WAYYY better then gaikai dont even kid yourself. Azure is a multi multi multi billion dollar corporation lol.

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Angels37853864d ago (Edited 3864d ago )

You realize Gaikai can do the same thing.......

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...

here's multiple sources for your tiny mind.

They announced this long before microsoft...every day its looking more and more like xbox ones "cloud" is more cpu processes and streaming....just like sony....only they didn't make as big a deal out of it.....

Tctczach3864d ago

Gaiki "can" put ps3 games on smartphones? Please provide some proof to that. I don't think it is that ready for that if it isn't even ready for Europe. And they have fiber optic cabling. Hahaha

DeadlyFire3864d ago

@Tctczach You are aware that a cloud service is basically a mini App that is put out. It can fit on any device once its up and running. It streams from one device to any other device that accesses it. It could run on the PS3 and X360 if they wanted to allow for that. Say they release a version of their cloud service on the PS3/X360 next year with only demos of PS4/1BX games available for consumers to try out to inspire next gen sales.

Its nothing to do with cabling that is slowing Sony down. Its just server infrastructure in Europe isn't ready for Gaikai. Sony is building server centers as well you know. That takes time.

AznGaara3864d ago (Edited 3864d ago )

Microsoft's senior director of Xbox, Albert Penello, said "it could be more complicated things like rendering full games like a Gaikai and delivering it to the box"

I wonder how many ppl will ignore this. Oh wait.. we just read the article title and comment. Whoops. My bad internet.

DeadlyFire3864d ago (Edited 3864d ago )

You can't BS us.

Azure is nice, but so is Gaikai, OnLive, OTOY, NVIDIA Grid, and the inevitable others.

Game streaming is a relatively simple cloud process. Its just framerate vs. graphics quality with the bandwidth you can expect some delayed input. If its good enough though it shouldn't matter to much to have small delay. Wireless controllers are 200-300 ms for X360/PS3. 45ms isn't bad. :)

Mystogan3863d ago

Except Azure probably has more than 10 times the servers than all these services combined. And I'm not joking.

DeadlyFire3862d ago

You mean it will in the future. Microsoft doesn't have all of their claimed 300,000 servers ready. They are still building server centers. They bought the whole industrial park in my county and it has been in the works for awhile and will be for at least another year or so for whatever they are building there.

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MultiConsoleGamer3864d ago

Onlive did it before Sony and before Microsoft.

And everyone mocked them.

Now idiot fanboys are praising their favorite team for doing the same thing they once mocked.

In before " b-b-b-but this is somehow different and better because the company I support is doing it now!"

rainslacker3864d ago

They mocked onlive because it wasn't considered a very good service, and IIRC it had shoddy customer service. Never heard anything bad about Gaikai, never really paid attention until Sony was rumored to be buying them.

I still don't care either way, it's nice they have it, but I would prefer hardware BC unless I can stream for free games I already own physically. Otherwise it appears cloud streaming will offer some improvements to Digital distribution in general.

Oh right...sorry I forgot you have no real argument to make. Call everyone a hypocrite and call it a day. No reason to really think of a good argument.

In fact no reason to even address the topic at hand when you can take a jab at Sony fans.

To take my own criticism to heart

On topic: Cloud streaming is a neat feature. I'm glad MS is possibly going to offer it to those who want it.

MultiConsoleGamer3864d ago

Most of those same fanboys you mention never actually tried Onlive so they were in no position to judge.

And the quality of Onlive isn't the issue here, they still got there first. Deal with it.

Also, its painfully ironic and quite telling that when I said "hypocrite fanboys" you thought I was only talking about Sony fans, even though I mentioned both teams and this article is about Microsoft, not Sony. Insecure much?

So your whole post is nothing more than a thinly veiled personal attack. So now I have proven that you are the one without any real argument. Just childish whining.

rainslacker3863d ago

Guess I've been told then. Sorry, but knowing your past comment history, it's painfully obvious what you mean when you mention fan boys.

And you've really proven nothing, I have no reason to personally attack you, all I do is point out how you more often than not call out fan boys because you have no real argument. If you had one, fan boys wouldn't even come into the discussion.

The hypocrisy card has been played out along with the fan boy card, so why does everyone keep clinging to it?

MultiConsoleGamer3863d ago

You should know all about my past comment history, you've been stalking me with your other account for quite some time.

Welcome to the ignore list.

And you're right, you've been told hard and now you're just blathering and making yourself look even more foolish.

Ohlmay3864d ago

Sounds incredible, Halo 4 on my smartphone, that would be fantastic! I hope 360 and PS3 games will be streamed to PC's soon, I'd love to play Last of Us and Halo 4 on PC :)

Neixus3864d ago

sony talked about streaming games to PC, microsoft haven't,though.

Ohlmay3864d ago

If they could Cloud Stream to a smartphone, what's stopping them from streaming to a PC?

DeadlyFire3864d ago (Edited 3864d ago )

Microsoft is to lazy to actually make a PC title. So streaming the X360, or 1BX version to PC would be a slice of cake for them. Also with their own cloud service on PC they could setup something similar to Steam, but for Cloud streaming games. As Cloud streaming gives them a right to charge you for their service.

So they are attempting XBL Gold Round 2 for PC users in the future. Be warned. This time though you get actual Microsoft games on the platform. So Idk if its worth it or not just yet. We will have to see it running to determine that. Hearing that Halo 4 is on it could mean PC users get actual up to date Microsoft IPs on the PC. I just wonder if this means they are thinking about selling games on the PC in retail/digital form.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7214h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Cacabunga40m ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

purple1013h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos3h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac2h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 10h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 8h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 5h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN22h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies20h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 8h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic18h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9017h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 10h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 9h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 6h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 9h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 8h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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