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Yoshida Reveals That PS4 Will Only Support 4 Controllers Simultaneously

Sony Worldwide President Shuhei Yoshida has stated in several tweets that the PS4 will only allow for four controllers to be simultaneously connected.

GarrusVakarian3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

"only support 4 controllers"

I don't think there's any need for more than 4. Ive never used more than 2 personally.

NewMonday3888d ago

pre-order canceled

I demand 8 controller support and 8 player split-screen

/S

sephiroth4203888d ago

8 player splitscreen would be great! but i guess tvs will have to go up in size before thats possible

ZodTheRipper3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

I actually played PES with more than 4 people several times ...but I can live without that. I suppose this could be changed with a later update? This seems like a software issue to me.

boing13888d ago

^^
Same here. Too bad. I'm not going to miss it though.

Linzoid3888d ago

Gutted about this news! I love the 3 v 3 games on FIFA. It was annoying when they reduced from 8 to 7 from PS2 to PS3.

However this will no stop me picking up my PS4 at launch :-)

FamilyGuy3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

That would actually be pretty legit if tvs were all 80+ inches and games were in 4k resolution.

The future...

Also, this is a hardware thing, not software, Sony only has four colors for the lightbar on the DS4 so it couldn't go up because of that lol j/k

iamnsuperman3888d ago

8 player split screen? Hell yer. Imagine a game where the more kills you get the more screen space you get over the others. Flipping awesome fun

WrAiTh Sp3cTr33888d ago

Didn't you clowns talk smack in the XB1 article of how they were copying sony with 8 controllers? And now you're applauding a downgrade which sony has done? LOL

malokevi3888d ago

If you can do duel screen, 8 is awesome. Also, for sports games, 8 is good.

Not that it matters to me in the end, just sayin...

SilentNegotiator3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

Are you guys really going to just laugh this off?

PS3 had 7 player support or something like that; why the heck not PS4? As underutilized as same-screen multiplayer is these days, there's no excuse to just DROP the number of controllers supported at a time.

This is bad for sports titles, party games, and all sorts of innovative possibilities.

gaffyh3887d ago

@Silent - It's only really utilised in certain sports games. I can't think of any other genre that used more than four controllers. Not actually a huge issue considering multiplayer online was way more popular this gen. I used three controllers on LBP a few times but no more.

I admit more is of course better for people who play sports games like that, but it probably doesn't affect too many people.

WeedyOne3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

The PS3 could support more than 4 controllers, I think it was 7 or 8 controllers.

I bet the PS4 controller is limited to 4 players because of the added move functions, more than 4 controllers at once is probably too much for the camera to track accurately.

No big deal!

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Nizulo3888d ago

I was going to convert to PS4... but this, this is... NO BIGGIE.

Hellsvacancy3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

Damn, the PS4 is doooooooooooooomed

Ot, i've never used more than two controllers on my PS3, now my son is getting older that'll change next gen to three

thereapersson3888d ago

The only time this comes in handy is sports gaming. Having the option of up to 7 different colors in NBA 2k for my character makes it easy to identify a unique appearance, color-wise. Not sure what we will get now that the maximum is 4.

shivvy243888d ago

The max I have used is 4 with family/friends ! MW2 , Ratchet all4one and fifa

Andronix3888d ago

I've played a Motorstorm fame in 4 player split screen and that was lots of fun. But I can't think of why you would want to play an 8 person game as each person's 8th of the screen would be really small. But it is important to have split screen for local games when friends visit so I would like to see more games with this feature.

But who can afford 8 controllers?! Who can afford 4?!

B-radical3888d ago

4 player on older consoles was fun

DiRtY3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

8 > 4

humbleopinion3888d ago

Well... while more never hurts, I'm much happier to see that Sony pushed for 8 GB RAM over 8 controllers support.

FamilyGuy3888d ago

I dn't think the word "only" needs to be in that sentence. 4 is a standard for limit for most local co-op games. Sports games are the only ones I know of that ever exceed 4.

husomc3888d ago

i've played FIFA, with upto 6 ppl together, must be a limitation caused by the audio channel for the speaker in the controller

Liefx3887d ago

I understand where people come from, but it is nice to be able to switch on my 4 controllers, then pop on the Move controllers without having to turn off the other controllers. Or what about Guitar hero devices?

I found it handy to have 7 slots for devices.

Mounce3887d ago

The ONLY time more than 4 controllers is EVER used is in Sports games like FIFA. Outside of that? Pointless.

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Wizziokid3888d ago

Don't think I've ever used more than 4 anyway?

Thisisjuju3888d ago

Nor I. I cant think of any game Ive ever played that has supported 8 local/splitscreen players.

The Meerkat3888d ago

Bomberman maybe? but that's not split screen.

I remember 5 player on the Amiga.
4 on pads and 1 on keyboard.

Gazondaily3888d ago

There isn't really a need for more than 4 controllers anyway unless they release a crazy version of Micro Machines or Power Stone.

Thisisjuju3888d ago

God I would love to see a Micro Machines game.

Linzoid3888d ago

8 players on Micro Machines V3 on PS1 was one of my all time favorite local MP games!

Wish Codemasters would release a next gen version or a HD remake

MariaHelFutura3888d ago

I love when people mention Power Stone.

Regis3888d ago

You and Septic should get married at this rate I see the 2 major people on this site agreeing mind blown

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Halochampian3887d ago

Some sports games could be could with it. It's not a big deal, but I could see myself and a group of friends playing some FIFA or NHL together all on one machine.

The PS3 had support up to 7 so I thought it would easily have been featured in the ps4 but I guess since they(developers) never utilized it, they thought the feature could be cut.

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paul-p19883888d ago

PS3 supported 7 if i remember rightly, yet i don't think many people used that many at one time. 4 is probably the perfect amount, more would have been nice, but i along with most people only tend to have 3 friends in the same place as me at once.

Besides, with online gaming getting another massive boost this gen i doubt most people will even be using 2 controls on the same console...

NukaCola3888d ago

Yeah PS3 did 7 but I never used more than 3 at a time on LBP.

MrSwankSinatra3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

honestly i never knew that until now. i've only ever used two.

coolasj3888d ago

Technically, I believe the PS3 supports "7 simultaneous Bluetooth devices". So the 4 controller thing is fine, but I want to know the upper bound on Bluetooth devices total.

RevXM3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

Hopefully not.
4 controllers, and perhaps 4 headsets at the same time, maybe some would like Mouse and key and a TV/BD remote at the same time too(not having to reconnect all the time). so about 10-12 total should be the max useable/sensible amount of units. Any more units would be ridiculous right?

I wont die if it doesnt though, I have barely used 4 BT units at a time on the ps3 so for me its allright as of now.

boing13888d ago

Happened to me once in whole generation. We played PES for 7 players. Lots of fun. Not going to miss it though.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken11h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g21h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing20h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H920h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola17h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66919h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle19h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 12h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 12h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 7h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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